The Trayvon Martin Case

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BamaPokerplayer

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and neither of those crimes he supposedly committed justify killing him, imho
I did not say it did, but as far as the law is written in Florida it is legal. I’m curious though how many times does one’s head have to be banged into the concrete before it justifies a shooting? Lastly, it looks like only one person used a racial slur again TM? Why is there a trial?
 

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Check the FBI statistics. Of course handguns kill far more than hands, just making the point that the hands are deadly weapons, especially when they belong to those who are younger and on drugs. In this case, it appears TM was unarmed, but how many guys have been attacked like GZ was only to be killed via knife? Quite a few.

IOW, TM attacked GZ and was beating him, fairly badly by what the evidence shows. How do we know TM would have stopped before killing GZ? Zimmerman certainly didn't know that.

The takeaway here is you probably shouldn't attack someone if they aren't attacking you, and if you decide to attack someone physically, you better be certain they're not armed.
I think the answer is that you are supposed to rely on the good intentions of your attacker. ;)
 

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I did not say it did, but as far as the law is written in Florida it is legal. I’m curious though how many times does one’s head have to be banged into the concrete before it justifies a shooting? Lastly, it looks like only one person used a racial slur again TM? Why is there a trial?
i fail to see what using a racial slur has to do with anything
 

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If TM had stepped out of the shadows and shot GZ for following him instead of throwing him to the ground, jumping on top of him, breaking his nose, and slamming his head into the ground? Probably not.
too bad we don't have TM around to tell his version of what went down that night so we would know for sure
 

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if tm would have killed gz instead of the other way around, would he have been able to use a stand your ground defense?
If GZ had attacked him, I suspect so. But there's no evidence that GZ attacked TM, while there's a lot of evidence to the contrary.

So how many times does TM have to bash GZ's head against the ground before Zimmerman can defend his life?
 

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i have seen some pretty ugly fights in my day, not a single one of them justified using deadly force.
That's nice.

Thankfully, GZ's life doesn't hang in the balance of your limited life experience. A quick bit of work with your favorite search engine will turn up quite a few stories of fist fights resulting in death.
 

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i have plenty of life experience thank you.
Just making the point that laws aren't based on your life experience, and GZ should be thankful for that, as you apparently believe he should have just taken the beating and hoped TM decided not to kill him.

And as you refuse to answer the question as to how many times TM had to bash GZ's head against the ground before he should be able to defend himself, I can only assume you realize this was a 'justifiable homicide' and you're now arguing simply to be obtuse.
 

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i don't see where that has any bearing on what happened that night.
Okay, well it is kinda the reason there is a trail. Also, it means TM is more likely to be racist and probably used more force when he was banging GZ's head into the concrete.
 
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