Johnny Manziel investigated by NCAA (will miss first half vs Rice)

[Zaiva]

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[capnfrog]

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I'm hoping Lil Johnny doesn't get into trouble resulting in a suspension. I want him playing in Bama's 2nd game. No excuses.

 

[crimsonaudio]

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http://www.tidefans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200882&p=2190247&viewfull=1#post2190247

 

[ALA2262]

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Difficult for me to comprehend, but at this rate, if he plays against Bama, then Bama is going to have non-Bama fans hoping that Bama crushes him. We must be near the End Times for that to happen. Or maybe Hell freezing over.

 

[JBama_in_PCOLA]

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Ill be glad when this is all about football, just football!! He's doing it to himself though.

 

[bamacon]

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Wingman, I'm not referencing who pays Nate, although I'm sure he doesn't work for free.
I'm merely pointing out it that in the eyes of the NCAA, the "personal assistant" gig could be viewed as an agent working on behalf of JM, as it's been alleged that Nate is/was shopping JM signings to multiple autograph brokers going back to last season and the OTL article stated that everything goes through Finch now...


“ … an agent is any individual who, directly or indirectly, represents or attempts to represent an individual for the purpose of marketing his or her athletics ability or reputation for financial gain …”


There is always the chance that Nate becomes the fall-guy and JM can say he didn't know, but I believe the NCAA has made changes and broadened the rule to since the Cam Newton fiasco.
Maybe someone else can weigh in on those changes and how that might apply here.

Having another college "kid" unschooled in NCAA matters handling your business, pr, etc as a potential future NFL'r, is a huge risk and quite frankly, is crazy, imho.

You're exactly right. Just ask Andre Smith.

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[bamacon]

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Is it just me or is Coach Sumlin just floundering? He sounded like he was wandering around for a cogent thought. I think they were caught completely off guard on this one.

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[Bruce014]

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Last reference to ITAT, I swear but read this ironic statement:

Before we as Auburn fans start leading a parade for Johnny just because we hate Bama, let's remember that while both Johnny and ...... boys were cheating their butts off and skirting the rules, Auburn players were towing the line and obeying the ncaa rules.



(Don't hit your head on the table when you fall in the floor laughing).

Has anybody pulled these ITAT paranoid rants into a single thread or blog (or medical record)?

It'd be better than Nicholson and Devito in One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest.

 

[Quicksilver]

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Is it just me or is Coach Sumlin just floundering? He sounded like he was wandering around for a cogent thought. I think they were caught completely off guard on this one.

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I got the same impression. My guess is that neither he nor anybody else at TxA&M knows the best course of action at this point.

 

[bamagradinATL]

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I'm starting to really dislike aTm. Hiring the same lawyer a* used during the $cam fiasco tells me all I want to know about that program.

 

[Chukker Veteran]

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Has anybody else noticed when aTm messes with Bama, things generally turn to mud for them?

When they hired Fran out from under us, they thought they had done something to set the world on fire. And we all remember what actually happened.

Fast forward to the current era...they get a hot-shot kid that has the game of his life, and beats Bama at it's best.

Everybody who follows football knows Bama will mop the floor with them in the rematch...including the aggies...so instead of prepping for the rematch during the off season, aTm has found another way to implode and remind everyone they simply aren't ready for the big stage.

So my message to Bama fans is: any time you feel like the aggies have a leg up on Bama, be patient, they will soon loose their balance standing on one leg, and wind up on their butt.

 

[Tide&True]

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One big difference between Bama and TA&M that stands out to me. I think Coach Sumlin is a good coach but the lack of keeping his players in check is going to do him in.

 

[Tide1986]

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Wingman, I'm not referencing who pays Nate, although I'm sure he doesn't work for free.
I'm merely pointing out it that in the eyes of the NCAA, the "personal assistant" gig could be viewed as an agent working on behalf of JM, as it's been alleged that Nate is/was shopping JM signings to multiple autograph brokers going back to last season and the OTL article stated that everything goes through Finch now...


“ … an agent is any individual who, directly or indirectly, represents or attempts to represent an individual for the purpose of marketing his or her athletics ability or reputation for financial gain …”


There is always the chance that Nate becomes the fall-guy and JM can say he didn't know, but I believe the NCAA has made changes and broadened the rule to since the Cam Newton fiasco.
Maybe someone else can weigh in on those changes and how that might apply here.

Having another college "kid" unschooled in NCAA matters handling your business, pr, etc as a potential future NFL'r, is a huge risk and quite frankly, is crazy, imho.

Nate may indeed become the fall guy, but this situation is very different on the surface than the Newton case -- this situation obviously required JM's participation. "Hey Nate, you sure have a lot of friends -- my hand is cramping."

 

[bamagradinATL]

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One big difference between Bama and TA&M that stands out to me. I think Coach Sumlin is a good coach but the lack of keeping his players in check is going to do him in.

Watching Sumlin it reminds me the football program at Alabama is run by one man and his name is Nick Saban. At aTm, it isn't Kevin Sumlin.

 

[bamacon]

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I'm starting to really dislike aTm. Hiring the same lawyer a* used during the $cam fiasco tells me all I want to know about that program.

Which firm? Slive and associates?

 

[Crimson57s]

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Per ESPN, aTm is using the firm of Lightfoot, Franklin & White.

"A prominent autograph broker" told ESPN he "declined to answer six calls from the NCAA".

Everybody learned how to do it from $camGate. NCAA has no subpoena powers. Shut up, lawyer up and you can get away with anything. Only those who cooperate get punished.

 

[Crimson Cat]

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Oh yeah different scenario's and I agree...especially since the OTL article indicated JM frustration with signing stuff all the time. But I don't get the feeling that the Manziels, especially Johnny likes to take responsibility for anything. The obvious "out" is the bff Nate Finch who seems to be in the middle of all these allegations.

Another tidbit that seems to be getting overlooked in the media is that the article mentioned Finch had arranged or could arrange for other athletes to do signings....who were the other athletes or was it stated and I missed it?
Again, I think the ncaa will look hard at that.

Nate may indeed become the fall guy, but this situation is very different on the surface than the Newton case -- this situation obviously required JM's participation. "Hey Nate, you sure have a lot of friends -- my hand is cramping."

 

[TidefaninOS]

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So my message to Bama fans is: any time you feel like the aggies have a leg up on Bama, be patient, they will soon loose their balance standing on one leg, and wind up on their butt.

The next time I feel like TA&M has a leg up on Bama.....will be the first time!:wink:

 

[TexasTideFan]

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NCAA has no subpoena powers. Shut up, lawyer up and you can get away with anything. Only those who cooperate get punished.

The NCAA will get's it's info from the media. They are it's investigating arm. The good (or bad) thing is that they will do an anal probe to the tonsils on this and the NCAA just has to let the press do their dirty work for them.

However, the NCAA has clearly shown they have to clue how to properly handle a school that needs it's hand slapped (ie...the U).

 

[Tidetwin]

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I don't blame them one iota, as a matter of fact, if I was A&M's AD, as soon as I was told of the situation..That firm would've been my 1st phone call, as of matter of fact, they would be #1 on my speed dial..They're the best in the business at what they do..The sCam situation proved that without doubt..

I agree with one caveat. It will be interesting to see how far the school will go to protect its football program at the expense of its academic reputation. Not all schools have to follow Auburn to the dark side.