Agreed. Looking at the project players we signed over the past few years we would have been much better off bringing in JUCO kids instead.
The Future of Alabama Basketball and Anthony Grant
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Agreed. Looking at the project players we signed over the past few years we would have been much better off bringing in JUCO kids instead.
If you look at it that way (just raw numbers), then yes. Sure, the football team loses players, and some are surprises, but it is usually kids wanting more PT. OK, we all get that. But, it doesn't kill us, as there is someone just as good, wanting that PT.
But, it seems (and yes, I could be wrong), we get BB players leaving, that seem straight out of nowhere. And no replacement, either sitting on the bench, or already taking their PT.
Maybe we can all agree to agree the bigger problem is no depth, and no visible plan to address transfers.
My gut feeling is we have players transferring either because they don't meld with CAG, or they don't like the shackles he places on them, with his apparent control freak offense. Anyone who has seen our last few victories can see how different the team responds when he loosens the reins. That won't fix all of our problems, but it will be one big one not to worry about.
Maybe if the PTB had forced CAG to bring in good assistant coach, to teach offense, we might not be in this situation. But, the time for that has passed. If they do decide to keep him, and not address that issue, then who is really to blame?
I agree with that 1,000%. USM is sitting there this year with a pretty darn good basketball team, and they thrive almost exclusively on JC transfers.
It's just frustrating that we are in the flip position from the one we found ourselves in with CMG. Then we had an offensive coach who wouldn't hire a decent defensive coach. Of course, he also refused to go multiple on offense, after his base set got thoroughly figured out. Now, we're stuck with a decent defensive coach who apparently can't stand the thought of letting loose the reins of the offense, when it's become obvious he can't coach offense. Offseason may be entertaining...
We were discussing "tempo" earlier today in the the AU thread and how we can make it up tempo.
Here are a couple of videos on "forcing tempo" the first is a clinic situation, the second is a game. Dave is one of my Favs.
Here is the game:
There are about 5 Different sets they run once they get down court. It may look like chaos, but it is choreographed! BTW- watch them PRESS on Defense the whole game!
Grinnell in RED!
Here are a couple of videos on "forcing tempo" the first is a clinic situation, the second is a game. Dave is one of my Favs.
Here is the game:
There are about 5 Different sets they run once they get down court. It may look like chaos, but it is choreographed! BTW- watch them PRESS on Defense the whole game!
Grinnell in RED!
Saying the obvious here, but a player typically doesn't transfer mid-season. He'll most likely transfer in April or May. By that time, recruits are long gone.
Look at Bama's departures from last season. Only one of the four was expected, and that was because Steele was a senior. Grant was able to get get a guard for a guard when Lacey transferred and he signed Key. I don't think he had the time to get someone to replace either Gueye or Pollard.
With less than 14 scholarships, a basketball coach has his work cut out for him (or her in women's basketball) because of the early signing period, transfers, and early departures. Bama's overall number of transfers makes the depth issues worse than some schools. If Pollard and/or Gueye don't leave in the spring, this year's team probably has a few more W's. Bama's roster problem in recent years come from about two or three departures a year. The recruiting class seems to only replace the off season departures rather than adding to the team.
While this season (and the last few) have been brutal at times, I remain optimistic about NEXT year. Losing Releford will hurt, but maybe, like in UGA's case with KCP going pro after 2013, it will open up the offense for others.
I just hate to see us not be able to get to the NCAA's while the SEC is "down" If/when LSU/UT/ARK/MIZZ improve and get back to the Big Dance, it will be that much harder. Just seems that we've wasted a 3-4 year window that would have been perfect for NCAA bids.
All this said, no NCAA berth in 2015, and Coach Battle will have no choice. Keeping the fingers crossed for ONE MORE offseason.
I just hate to see us not be able to get to the NCAA's while the SEC is "down" If/when LSU/UT/ARK/MIZZ improve and get back to the Big Dance, it will be that much harder. Just seems that we've wasted a 3-4 year window that would have been perfect for NCAA bids.
All this said, no NCAA berth in 2015, and Coach Battle will have no choice. Keeping the fingers crossed for ONE MORE offseason.
My guess is that Coach Battle offers CAG the chance to bring in an offensive asst and give him another year which is probably a losing proposition when all is said and done. Whether he takes the opportunity after being given essentially an ultimatum may be dicey at best.There are several reasons why this is not a good plan.
1) Who in the coaching community would take a job with a lame duck coach knowing that if they didn't succeed they'd be looking for work again next year. IOW, It would be very difficult to find a quality assistant to take the job.
2) CAG has already lost the fan base. Speaking for the people I know who had been long term season ticket holders for many years that gave up their tickets this year because they had lost hope. If it is bad this year what will the tickets sales be like next year? The students are not showing up either. There was probably just over a 1000 students at the Auburn game.
3) How do the players themselves react to what they have to know is a dire situation with their coach?
All in all, it is better to make a move now than wait another year and be in the same situation this time next year.
1) Who in the coaching community would take a job with a lame duck coach knowing that if they didn't succeed they'd be looking for work again next year. IOW, It would be very difficult to find a quality assistant to take the job.
2) CAG has already lost the fan base. Speaking for the people I know who had been long term season ticket holders for many years that gave up their tickets this year because they had lost hope. If it is bad this year what will the tickets sales be like next year? The students are not showing up either. There was probably just over a 1000 students at the Auburn game.
3) How do the players themselves react to what they have to know is a dire situation with their coach?
All in all, it is better to make a move now than wait another year and be in the same situation this time next year.
1st time in 5 years. Maybe if he stays he has learned his lesson. He'll have to win the hearts of many of the fans in order for them to show up at Coleman again.
We were discussing "tempo" earlier today in the the AU thread and how we can make it up tempo.
Here are a couple of videos on "forcing tempo" the first is a clinic situation, the second is a game. Dave is one of my Favs.
Here is the game:
There are about 5 Different sets they run once they get down court. It may look like chaos, but it is choreographed! BTW- watch them PRESS on Defense the whole game!
Grinnell in RED!
you cannot have an effective up tempo game if you can't control the defensive boards. CAG cannot survive if he doesn't radically improve the inside game. We are dead last in the league in rebounding and I don't see where any help is coming from next year.
I have followed Bama basketball all my life. I can honestly say this is the first year I have literally missed some games in the sense that I did not even see the score until a couple of days had passed. I have watched more than most this year, but for me to miss the game on TV or even radio has seldom happened in the past, unless it was work,etc.. that took me away. Most of the Bama fans I know well have been to fewer games and had less interest in Bama basketball than I can ever remember even in the days of nose or Gottfried.. I would love to see Grant be successful at Bama. I was a huge supporter. I have just lost confidence in his ability to do it. It is not going to happen.
Michael Kessens is 6'9. He should provide some rebound presence. He averaged 8.8 rebounds a game last year at Longwood University. Jimmie should improve on his 3.1 rebounds a game.
Of Bama's top 5 rebounders, Trevor is the only one who does not return. Rodney averages 5 a game. Levi and Shannon average just less than 4 a game.
Who knows what those statistics mean next season, though.
You're preaching to choir here. I'm one that doesn't think we have the depth or the personnel to have such an offense.
I know it's lipstick on a pig but other than the 15-2 run UK had, that game was well played and I liked the body language and heart our guys displayed. Like most on here, I'm extremely disappointed, but I think CAG deserves (and I've gone back and forth on this since last March) one more year to show major improvement. 20 wins is a must, top 4-5 in SEC, and probably an NCAA bid (even if it's a 10-11 seed). I know these things aren't the marks of an elite program but they would be major steps in the right direction and maybe getting back to the 1982-95 years.
Completely disagree. What good would one more year do. People say he needs to hire a good offensive coach.... What quality assistant coach in their right mind would come knowing CAG is on the hot seat and could lose a job after one season..... He has had 5 years to turn this around. A high quality coach can turn a basketball program around in one year. IMO it's best to move in a different direction. We desperately need someone that is going to put an entertaining product on the court. We need someone that is going to try to sell the program in the community and with the students. Regardless of what some people are saying. I think Bruce Pearl is more of a realistic option than people think. He is who I want.
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I'm reminded of a lesson from my dad. He said the time to terminate an employee is the first time you think seriously about doing so.
When you're not in a fit of anger or disappointment, and you are rationally and calmly evaluating whether to keep the person, you actually already have your answer...don't.
For those advocating one more year, I'd ask this question: Can you cite any examples of any team in any sport where, after five years of steadily declining performance, a coach suddenly and permanently turns the corner? I honestly can't.
And I repeat my earlier statement-- if not for Trevor Releford, we might not have won a game, and certainly wouldn't have won five.
As much as I thought Grant was a great hire five years ago, the evidence that that is wrong is overwhelming. It is time.
When you're not in a fit of anger or disappointment, and you are rationally and calmly evaluating whether to keep the person, you actually already have your answer...don't.
For those advocating one more year, I'd ask this question: Can you cite any examples of any team in any sport where, after five years of steadily declining performance, a coach suddenly and permanently turns the corner? I honestly can't.
And I repeat my earlier statement-- if not for Trevor Releford, we might not have won a game, and certainly wouldn't have won five.
As much as I thought Grant was a great hire five years ago, the evidence that that is wrong is overwhelming. It is time.
My information, which comes from close to the BOT is we need to forget Pearl. The fear is that he is a loose canon and would endanger the football program by a dumb move. Take it FWIW...
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