News Article: Blake Barnett quit the team

[cbi1972]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

“If you believe in yourself and have dedication and pride – and never quit – you’ll be a winner. The price of victory is high but so are the rewards.”

“If a man is a quitter, I’d rather find out in practice than in a game. I ask for all a player has so I’ll know later what I can expect.”

“The first time you quit, it’s hard. The second time, it gets easier. The third time, you don’t even have to think about it.”

The man had a lot to say about quitting

 

[B1GTide]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

BB knows that Jalen has the job locked up long term. He's not going to see any meaningful PT without an injury or something. Without "reading into it" and despite how some of us FEEL about it, seems pretty clear cut doesn't it?

Saban plays the player who gives the team the best chance to win. If Blake's "game" improves and he becomes that guy, he will play. So, if anyone gave up on Blake, it was Blake. He clearly does not believe that he is better than Hurts, or that he can work hard to become better.

 

[Intl.Aperture]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

You're clearly not in any way close to the situation and/or team. I'll leave it at that.

Tis the case with 90% of us here. Mostly just chewing the cud because we love this team. When I spill opinions at the water cooler with friends about football I know it's ok to be wrong. This QB situation has gotten people tense in the shoulders. To me, it's totally fine to be wrong or change an opinion. Not as much fun if people start getting browbeat for an opinion since we are all likely to lay an egg.

 

[tidefanbeezer]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

Irrelevant. The initial point was about unsuccessful QBs transferring. Wilson was a successful QB @ NC State.

Uh...

Link

Link

You and I are on the same page.

Last Post (here) was clarifying that he didn't leave because GLennon beat him out, but rather because he wanted to play baseball and football and O'Brien was against it.

 

[RedStar]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

How does that relate to your previous post?

Because if you were close in any way to the program, you'd know just how ....ed the staff and players are. And there are others on this board who are in the know who knew this was Hurts team all along, and had been saying so regardless of what was said in the presser.

You want to know why Barnett was given the nod in the first game? The reasons were twofold. Reason 1 Hurts was the better QB from day 1, he was better in every practice, every film study. The guys on the team loved him. He was never outworked. He was a coaches kid who came in and immersed himself the way you always hope players will.

He won the locker room, but he still had one more test to pass. CNS came out the week before USC and named Barnett the starter in part because he wanted to see how Hurts would respond. Hurts did exactly what you would expect out of a leader. He didn't complain, he put his head down, and he prepared for the game the exact same way he had every practice. He passed the final test with flying colors.

Reason 2 was because the staff wanted to see if Barnett could flip the switch in an actual game situation the way he hadn't been able to in practice. Some players just perform poorly in practice, and the hope was that Barnett was one of those players.

Barnett never flipped his switch. Hurts showed leadership even when he was named backup. After that, there was never any question who the starter was. Barnett saw the writing on the wall and quit on his teammates halfway through the season, proving once and for all that this staff made the correct decision.

Is that clear enough?

 

[Just Win]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

I have nothing against Blake Barnett, and wish him all the best in his future endeavors. Having said that, if he was anywhere near as good as the "recruiting gurus" touted him up to be, he'd likley be starting at QB for us by now and this would all be a moot point. Some kids just pick up the much faster, much more technical college game quicker than others. Then combine all of that with the fact that he has a hot pro surfer girlfriend back home in Cali......

I said to my friends yesterday though, it wouldn't surprise me if he went somewhere like Oregon or Houston and won a Heisman.

 

[cbi1972]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

Because if you were close in any way to the program, you'd know just how ....ed the staff and players are. And there are others on this board who are in the know who knew this was Hurts team all along, and had been saying so regardless of what was said in the presser.

You want to know why Barnett was given the nod in the first game? The reasons were twofold. Reason 1 Hurts was the better QB from day 1, he was better in every practice, every film study. The guys on the team loved him. He was never outworked. He was a coaches kid who came in and immersed himself the way you always hope players will.

He won the locker room, but he still had one more test to pass. CNS came out the week before USC and named Barnett the starter in part because he wanted to see how Hurts would respond. Hurts did exactly what you would expect out of a leader. He didn't complain, he put his head down, and he prepared for the game the exact same way he had every practice. He passed the final test with flying colors.

Reason 2 was because the staff wanted to see if Barnett could flip the switch in an actual game situation the way he hadn't been able to in practice. Some players just perform poorly in practice, and the hope was that Barnett was one of those players.

Barnett never flipped his switch. Hurts showed leadership even when he was named backup. After that, there was never any question who the starter was. Barnett saw the writing on the wall and quit on his teammates halfway through the season, proving once and for all that this staff made the correct decision.

Is that clear enough?

For what it's worth, AJ once failed a similar test, but learned from it.

 

[squib]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

“If you believe in yourself and have dedication and pride – and never quit – you’ll be a winner. The price of victory is high but so are the rewards.”

“If a man is a quitter, I’d rather find out in practice than in a game. I ask for all a player has so I’ll know later what I can expect.”

“The first time you quit, it’s hard. The second time, it gets easier. The third time, you don’t even have to think about it.”

The man had a lot to say about quitting

Bryant quit on Maryland, Kentucky and AM. He saw better opportunities and he took them. Same thing BB is doing. QB is not like RB. Multiple RBs get to play. Only one QB gets to play. BB could be the second best QB in the nation and never see the field if the first is ahead of him. If he wants to play QB at the college level, then he thinks it is best to find a place to do that. I hate it, but I understand. He has one chance to play in college; he was likely not going to get that chance at Bama unless there was an injury.

I hate to see other position players transfer because Bama rotates players at all positions. But like most programs, QB doesn't rotate. Transferring at the QB position is different. I wish he were staying, but I understand. Calling him a quitter is not really fair in my opinion. He is trying to take advantage of his shot. Sometimes that requires being man enough to know what discretion is the better part of valor sometimes. I truly doubt that Barnett liked walking out of that locker room with his stuff in a bag. I wish him well.

 

[MS TN NC Tidefan]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

You can have a big arm and all the measurables, but if you can't process clearly under fire, then you really don't have the potential to be a big time quarterback. BB has the arm and measurables, but did not appear to be able to be cool under pressure. It might be something he picks up with experience; it might not. I'm squarely in the camp of his timing being very selfish. There are rumors of parental discontent that probably didn't help. But his mom probably never played football on a TEAM. I was always told team first... and strongly believe in it. He quit on his team. The only thing he has proven at this point is you can't tell WHEN he is going to quit.

People referencing coaches going to new team just need to stop... not the same at all... what coach quit midseason?

 

[RedStar]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

Bryant quit on Maryland, Kentucky and AM. He saw better opportunities and he took them. Same thing BB is doing. QB is not like RB. Multiple RBs get to play. Only one QB gets to play. BB could be the second best QB in the nation and never see the field if the first is ahead of him. If he wants to play QB at the college level, then he thinks it is best to find a place to do that. I hate it, but I understand. He has one chance to play in college; he was likely not going to get that chance at Bama unless there was an injury.

I hate to see other position players transfer because Bama rotates players at all positions. But like most programs, QB doesn't rotate. Transferring at the QB position is different. I wish he were staying, but I understand. Calling him a quitter is not really fair in my opinion. He is trying to take advantage of his shot. Sometimes that requires being man enough to know what discretion is the better part of valor sometimes. I truly doubt that Barnett liked walking out of that locker room with his stuff in a bag. I wish him well.

No one was mad when Morris transferred, or Ely, or McLeon, or Jackson (until he called Alabama a machine that eats players).

I doubt anyone is upset about him transferring (maybe 1%) It's the quitting on his team at this stage of the season that people are upset about. I don't see why that's so hard to understand.

And calling Bryant a quitter because he took another job is silly. Those aren't remotely the same thing.

 

[81usaf92]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

Because if you were close in any way to the program, you'd know just how ....ed the staff and players are. And there are others on this board who are in the know who knew this was Hurts team all along, and had been saying so regardless of what was said in the presser.

You want to know why Barnett was given the nod in the first game? The reasons were twofold. Reason 1 Hurts was the better QB from day 1, he was better in every practice, every film study. The guys on the team loved him. He was never outworked. He was a coaches kid who came in and immersed himself the way you always hope players will.

He won the locker room, but he still had one more test to pass. CNS came out the week before USC and named Barnett the starter in part because he wanted to see how Hurts would respond. Hurts did exactly what you would expect out of a leader. He didn't complain, he put his head down, and he prepared for the game the exact same way he had every practice. He passed the final test with flying colors.

Reason 2 was because the staff wanted to see if Barnett could flip the switch in an actual game situation the way he hadn't been able to in practice. Some players just perform poorly in practice, and the hope was that Barnett was one of those players.

Barnett never flipped his switch. Hurts showed leadership even when he was named backup. After that, there was never any question who the starter was. Barnett saw the writing on the wall and quit on his teammates halfway through the season, proving once and for all that this staff made the correct decision.

Is that clear enough?

Again that is all good that you know this, but how does it translate to picking and choosing what is direct and indirect evidence of what CNS means in his pressers and what players mean in their tweets with 100% accuracy.

Before you respond, if you respond, I'm not arguing what people have learned what happened to get from point A to point B with who won the locker room, I'm arguing why people even in the apparent "know" think they can interpret CNS pressers 100% without fail. Again I'm not talking about the Blake Barnett losing the job, I'm taking about interpreting pressers.

Fwiw I have 'some' but not much insight of what goes on through a 'source'. I knew Barnett would start game 1 through this source, but like every source that any have here it's not 100% accurate. So you may indeed have more insight than I do, and personally I don't care because at the end of the day we all watch Bama play.

 

[CrimsonPaul]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

Well beside all that was said I'll miss the pictures of Blake's steady. Wish you the best too bad you quit.

 

[RTR91]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

Bryant quit on Maryland, Kentucky and AM. He saw better opportunities and he took them. Same thing BB is doing. QB is not like RB. Multiple RBs get to play. Only one QB gets to play. BB could be the second best QB in the nation and never see the field if the first is ahead of him. If he wants to play QB at the college level, then he thinks it is best to find a place to do that. I hate it, but I understand. He has one chance to play in college; he was likely not going to get that chance at Bama unless there was an injury.

I hate to see other position players transfer because Bama rotates players at all positions. But like most programs, QB doesn't rotate. Transferring at the QB position is different. I wish he were staying, but I understand. Calling him a quitter is not really fair in my opinion. He is trying to take advantage of his shot. Sometimes that requires being man enough to know what discretion is the better part of valor sometimes. I truly doubt that Barnett liked walking out of that locker room with his stuff in a bag. I wish him well.

Do you always miss the main point made by the majority of posters or is this the exception?

 

[2003TIDE]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

Incorrect. Glennon became the starter in 2011 when Wilson transferred.

There are interviews out there from both Wilson and the NCSt coach that said if Wilson came back he'd be 2nd string. AKA he got beat out by the guy that had 2 seasons remaining vs his 1 season.

 

[TitleWave]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

Do you always miss the main point made by the majority of posters or is this the exception?

Can s/he answer that "remotely," like from Mars (or Venus)? Don't know which his "transmission" about Bear's "quitting" recidivism emanated from...

 

[TideMan09]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

Saban plays the player who gives the team the best chance to win. If Blake's "game" improves and he becomes that guy, he will play. So, if anyone gave up on Blake, it was Blake. He clearly does not believe that he is better than Hurts, or that he can work hard to become better.

I agree 100% with ya my friend.."The Process" is about starting the best players at each position that gives the team as a whole, its best shot of playing for & winning the NC on a consistent basis, if that best Player happens to be a True Freshman Coach Saban has been consistent at playing that Player since he's been our HC..

That philosophy breeds competition within the team itself, that becomes so intense, the best players our Boy's will play against, is against their own teammates during practice & the majority of teams we play against, is actually a step down from the level of play our players are accustomed of playing against because of the competition at our practices..If that makes a lick of sense..

That philosophy has been the backbone of "The Process" because it permeates the kinda competition no other college football program has been able to replicate & it's helped to build the most dominant run in the history of college football in such a short term of a coaching tenure at any one school..

 

[squib]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

Do you always miss the main point made by the majority of posters or is this the exception?

I was responding to a post about quitting. I addressed the fact that there are multiple types of quitting. Are you always a bandwagoner or is this the....? Nevermind, I can answer that.

 

[WMack4Bama]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

There was a a lot of conversation on twitter among sportswriters and recruiting analysts last night about whether Blake's recruiting ranking had an effect on his decision.

Many of the sportswriters thought that had Barnett not been propped up so highly by the recruiting services that he'd have not been so anxious to leave. I think that's a little unfair to the recruiting guys. Because honestly, there a lot of factors at play.

This case isn't one where Blake isn't talented enough. He has talent to spare. If talent were the only factor, though, Jeff George would have had his gold jacket in Canton years ago. And particularly at QB, there's so much more that goes into it. You have to know your job and everyone else's. You're the coach on the field.

But again, it's never been a case with talent with Blake. He's pressed and tried to eat the whole elephant in one bite (as most young QBs do).

In our case, though, consider this. As pretty as our scores have looked, we've played ugly all season on offense, but we've been able to mask it with explosive plays. Because of penalties (false starts, holds, etc.) we were in 1st and 2nd and long on many occasions vs Ole Miss in a hostile environment. And often, with just 4 or 5 long strides from 2, we're suddenly in 2nd or 3rd and manageable. We have not had that in my lifetime (I'm that old of a guy).

Also, to put to bed the notion that players "played harder" for one QB than they did the other. First off, that idea is ludicrous. These guys are trying to not only win championships here, but get to the NFL. They know a scout watches full games and not just highlights. A scout can tell if a player is going half-speed. On that same note, scouts talk to coaches (not just Nick). The coaches know if a player is not going full speed. And finally, it's not this way at most places, but here?!? As a starter, if I have 2 guys behind me who were both all-state and rated 5 stars by all 4 of the major recruiting services and One's mom just had her lights cut off and is struggling to make do working 2 jobs, and the other one's little brother is battling a medical condition that requires constant medical attention. An NFL check could fix all these problems for them and their families. These superstar level players are hungry and want nothing more than to cut into my playing time. And you think I'm gonna slack off with these HUNGRY guys behind me just so I can have "my choice" of QB play? No. Just no.

I wish Blake all the best. Again, he did what he feels is best for him.

 

[RTR91]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

I was responding to a post about quitting. I addressed the fact that there are multiple types of quitting. Are you always a bandwagoner or is this the....? Nevermind, I can answer that.

Bryant didn't quit on his teams. He left for a better job.

No one (at least not many) here would have a problem if Blake left at the end of the season. That would be comparable to Bryant leaving for any of his previous jobs.

Blake leaving four games into the season is quitting.

That's the difference.

 

[rolltide_21]

Re: Blake Barnett Transferring

The offense ran much smoother with Hurts than with Barnett. Hurts has the "it" factor. I cannot expect Barnett to stick around with his skill set. I am disappointed that he is transferring in the middle of the season. Next man up as the number 2.