Scott Cochran is Leaving for Georgia

[4Q Basket Case]

So Cochran says, "Coach, I want an on-field position."

Saban says, "You're not ready. Here's what you need to do to get ready."

At least one other coach, Kiffin, effectively told him the same thing when he hired the ST Coordinator of the year away from Houston.

Cochran says, "Waaannnhhhhhhh…...I wanna be on the field NOW!" and calls his old buddy Kirby.

Now I think we have an understanding of why Cochran wasn't allowed to speak to the team when he left. Given the memories of Kirby's own exit from Tuscaloosa, I wouldn't be surprised if Cochran wasn't even allowed to return to his office after telling Saban he was going to Athens.

I do wonder about the statement that Saban was riding Cochran mercilessly in front of the staff. Saban could have been unhappy about a lot of things, but that doesn't justify public humiliation. It also doesn't strike me as how Saban handles personnel matters.

I have no inside knowledge whatsoever, and am assuming that Saban was in fact stating his dissatisfaction publicly, in front of Cochran's peers. Why would he do that?

Applying Occam's Razor -- the simplest explanation is usually the best explanation -- I can think of only one answer: Other assistant coaches (and possibly even players) were coming to Saban saying the S&C program was lacking / outdated / not preventing injuries / whatever. And Saban wanted them to know that he heard the criticism, agreed with it, and was working to effect a change.

Again, pure speculation on my part. But it reconciles the open question of why some of this stuff happened.

 

[crimsonaudio]

Never was a big fan of "Yeah Yeah" 'Audio? LOL!

Hated it. Always elicited an eyeroll.

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

I just really wonder about the "content" of these kinds of stories. How does the writer know these things??? I mean, it would seem there's alot of speculation in this article.

He probably has an Agenda...(I am too lazy to google his background).

 

[Evil Crimson Dragon]

So Cochran says, "Coach, I want an on-field position."

Saban says, "You're not ready. Here's what you need to do to get ready."

At least one other coach, Kiffin, effectively told him the same thing when he hired the ST Coordinator of the year away from Houston.

Cochran says, "Waaannnhhhhhhh…...I wanna be on the field NOW!" and calls his old buddy Kirby.

Now I think we have an understanding of why Cochran wasn't allowed to speak to the team when he left. Given the memories of Kirby's own exit from Tuscaloosa, I wouldn't be surprised if Cochran wasn't even allowed to return to his office after telling Saban he was going to Athens.

I do wonder about the statement that Saban was riding Cochran mercilessly in front of the staff. Saban could have been unhappy about a lot of things, but that doesn't justify public humiliation. It also doesn't strike me as how Saban handles personnel matters.

I have no inside knowledge whatsoever, and am assuming that Saban was in fact stating his dissatisfaction publicly, in front of Cochran's peers. Why would he do that?

Applying Occam's Razor -- the simplest explanation is usually the best explanation -- I can think of only one answer: Other assistants coaches (and possibly even players) were coming to Saban saying the S&C program was lacking / outdated / not preventing injuries / whatever. And Saban wanted them to know that he heard the criticism, agreed with it, and was working to effect a change.

Again, pure speculation on my part. But it reconciles the open question of why some of this stuff happened.

Sounds plausible

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

So Cochran says, "Coach, I want an on-field position."

Saban says, "You're not ready. Here's what you need to do to get ready."

At least one other coach, Kiffin, effectively told him the same thing when he hired the ST Coordinator of the year away from Houston.

Cochran says, "Waaannnhhhhhhh…...I wanna be on the field NOW!" and calls his old buddy Kirby.

Now I think we have an understanding of why Cochran wasn't allowed to speak to the team when he left. Given the memories of Kirby's own exit from Tuscaloosa, I wouldn't be surprised if Cochran wasn't even allowed to return to his office after telling Saban he was going to Athens.

I do wonder about the statement that Saban was riding Cochran mercilessly in front of the staff. Saban could have been unhappy about a lot of things, but that doesn't justify public humiliation. It also doesn't strike me as how Saban handles personnel matters.

I have no inside knowledge whatsoever, and am assuming that Saban was in fact stating his dissatisfaction publicly, in front of Cochran's peers. Why would he do that?

Applying Occam's Razor -- the simplest explanation is usually the best explanation -- I can think of only one answer: Other assistants coaches (and possibly even players) were coming to Saban saying the S&C program was lacking / outdated / not preventing injuries / whatever. And Saban wanted them to know that he heard the criticism, agreed with it, and was working to effect a change.

Again, pure speculation on my part. But it reconciles the open question of why some of this stuff happened.

It sounds like he "suggested" that Cochran make certain changes...and Cochran didn't.

 

[JustNeedMe81]

So Cochran says, "Coach, I want an on-field position."

Saban says, "You're not ready. Here's what you need to do to get ready."

At least one other coach, Kiffin, effectively told him the same thing when he hired the ST Coordinator of the year away from Houston.

Cochran says, "Waaannnhhhhhhh…...I wanna be on the field NOW!" and calls his old buddy Kirby.

Now I think we have an understanding of why Cochran wasn't allowed to speak to the team when he left. Given the memories of Kirby's own exit from Tuscaloosa, I wouldn't be surprised if Cochran wasn't even allowed to return to his office after telling Saban he was going to Athens.

I do wonder about the statement that Saban was riding Cochran mercilessly in front of the staff. Saban could have been unhappy about a lot of things, but that doesn't justify public humiliation. It also doesn't strike me as how Saban handles personnel matters.

I have no inside knowledge whatsoever, and am assuming that Saban was in fact stating his dissatisfaction publicly, in front of Cochran's peers. Why would he do that?

Applying Occam's Razor -- the simplest explanation is usually the best explanation -- I can think of only one answer: Other assistants coaches (and possibly even players) were coming to Saban saying the S&C program was lacking / outdated / not preventing injuries / whatever. And Saban wanted them to know that he heard the criticism, agreed with it, and was working to effect a change.

Again, pure speculation on my part. But it reconciles the open question of why some of this stuff happened.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but has Saban done this before... ripping personnel in meetings?

 

[Evil Crimson Dragon]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but has Saban done this before... ripping personnel in meetings?

He's corrected a few on the sidelines I think...…...…..who knows, He might have asked Cochran to change things up, and Cochran snapped back at him in the meeting

 

[The Ols]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but has Saban done this before... ripping personnel in meetings?

I don't recall him doing that before, but I'm guessing someone like Selma would have much better a recollection...

 

[TIDE-HSV]

It's not been reported...

 

[Bamabuzzard]

I do wonder about the statement that Saban was riding Cochran mercilessly in front of the staff. Saban could have been unhappy about a lot of things, but that doesn't justify public humiliation. It also doesn't strike me as how Saban handles personnel matters.

I have no inside knowledge whatsoever, and am assuming that Saban was in fact stating his dissatisfaction publicly, in front of Cochran's peers. Why would he do that?

I'll give an even "simpler" answer. That's how a lot of "old school" coaches did it. They'd chew a coach's butt during practice just as soon as they would a player. I played for HS and college (baseball) coaches who did things this way. This "style" has quickly been disappearing with younger coaches coming onto the scene.

I think if anything will be the "end" of Saban outside of health reasons. It won't be him being unwilling to change a scheme or mindset about X's and O's. But the unwillingness to change how he interacts with his coaches. "Back in the day" you could chew on someone's butt, they'd take it, go on about their day. No big deal. Now days, it doesn't work that way.

 

[TiderJack]

I just really wonder about the "content" of these kinds of stories. How does the writer know these things??? I mean, it would seem there's alot of speculation in this article.

Agreed. Any article with unnamed sources should be taken with a grain of salt. In today's media I don't believe any of them. Some of this story may be true but......

 

[Evil Crimson Dragon]

Agreed. Any article with unnamed sources should be taken with a grain of salt. In today's media I don't believe any of them. Some of this story may be true but......

True, very true...…………...it's hard to know anymore, especially when it comes to articles like this one. Could be "disinformation"

 

[Bamabuzzard]

He's corrected a few on the sidelines I think...…...…..who knows, He might have asked Cochran to change things up, and Cochran snapped back at him in the meeting

It's like the old saying "If that's how they treat each other in public. It's worse behind closed doors." I find a hard time believing Saban has no problem verbally ripping someone an new one on national tv but doesn't do it during in-house personnel meetings.

 

[Evil Crimson Dragon]

It's like the old saying "If that's how they treat each other in public. It's worse behind closed doors." I find a hard time believing Saban has no problem verbally ripping someone an new one on national tv but doesn't do it during in-house personnel meetings.

Well, we did see him light AJ McCarron up in the NC game, so anything is possible...………….I be curious to see what lead up to the incident if it happened the way the article implies

 

[Con]

It's like the old saying "If that's how they treat each other in public. It's worse behind closed doors." I find a hard time believing Saban has no problem verbally ripping someone an new one on national tv but doesn't do it during in-house personnel meetings.

I'm with you. I bet Coach Saban will peel the paint off the walls in a coaches meeting.

 

[jambama1]

We are a better program without SC. IMO

 

[Tiderollin32]

We are a better program without SC. IMO

Especially if his whole heart wasn't in it at the end. Hard to be fully involved when you think you should be a coach somewhere else.

 

[Padreruf]

Can we change the thread title to "Scott Cochran has Left the Building?" Or "Moving On??"

 

[Evil Crimson Dragon]

We are a better program without SC. IMO

I concur...……………….on to the new regime

 

[CrimsonTheory]

I don't think Saban rode Cochran any harder than any other coach. I think this is SC/Bulldogs trying to justified the sneakiness of the situation.

That's fine though. SC has been with NS long enough that it was probably time to go their separate ways.