News Article: A Mathematician predicts our current political situation and maybe the next Civil War?

[NationalTitles18]

I’m picking up some QAnon vibes from you, bj.

I’ll point out that Trump supporters - not an insignificant crowd in number - have openly stated their disdain for the media and many have openly called for a limit to their ability to speak and press freely. I’m more concerned about them than AOC or antifa or other boogeyman’s the Q crowd wants me to research (on clearly biased sites only).

 

[MattinBama]

I’m gonna bow out of this thread. This is just like every other online interaction when it comes to these types of subjects. It does no good and everyone just entrenched in their own beliefs. Peace out guys and Roll Tide!

I’m sorry if the facts don’t seem to line up with your opinions.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

If trump loses I believe he will go. Don’t buy the CNN panic porn journalism.

Oh come on! We've never, ever had a president even hint that he'd like to remain after his term. He is the sole example of that. It's far from "panic porn." It comes from his own lips. I understand, however, why you personally don't fear it...

 

[81usaf92]

The US isn’t falling to these groups. They can however cause major unrest like they are doing now by mixing in with legitimate protest movements and causing issues, rioting, and violence in cities controlled by


You are discounting their ability to grow and develop. They have already done that to some extent over the past two weeks. They don't have the organization of the IRA, but that is somewhat by design. If you study Antifa they are decentralized on purpose, but have writings about organizing and how they function. The cells have leadership and they cooperate. I'm in no way saying the antifa flag will fly above the Whitehouse. What I am saying is they are a reasonably organized group of cells that can grow. They are loud and they are violent. They also have people in power sympathetic to the cultural Marxism cause. The try to use violence and the threat of violence to get their way. They and others on the left are also doing all they can to silence any voice of dissent. They DO NOT want free speech and freedom of thought to continue. They want to control the narrative in public and private through intimidation. That is what this cancel culture is. This may all fizzle out, but it can also grow. These people are dangerous. No one thought the things that happened in Germany, Russia, China, or Cuba could happen there either. They are no where close to that right now, but the Nazi's, Russian Communists, and Maoists were all a small minority as well in the beginning. When you are complacent that's when you lose your freedoms.

What has been happening in our colleges and universities has now spilled out into the wider culture as it was destined to do. These people that are radical leftists are going to be in positions of power. Look at the outsized power a socialist like AOC has or the employees of the NY Times that got the head of the editorial board fired for simply printing the op. ed. of a sitting US Senator.

Look, I’ve sat through and had to go through too many threat analysis briefings when I was in the military (specifically military police), and I can tell you for a fact that the biggest threat to America from the fringe groups is squarely on the Right. Specifically the Sovereign Citizen movement. The Antifa and Marxist wannabe crowds can’t decide their end goal and lack any credibility when it comes to start some sorta war compared to the Cousin Eddies.

If you truly believe the far left skateboard wielders are a clear and present danger to our democracy then I guess we are at “agree to disagree” because I’ve seen no historical precedent from an unorganized movement overthrowing a super nation and starting a war.

 

[MattinBama]

Look, I’ve sat through and had to go through too many threat analysis briefings when I was in the military (specifically military police), and I can tell you for a fact that the biggest threat to America from the fringe groups is squarely on the Right. Specifically the Sovereign Citizen movement. The Antifa and Marxist wannabe crowds can’t decide their end goal and lack any credibility when it comes to start some sorta war compared to the Cousin Eddies.

If you truly believe the far left skateboard wielders are a clear and present danger to our democracy then I guess we are at “agree to disagree” because I’ve seen no historical precedent from an unorganized movement overthrowing a super nation and starting a war.

I’ve never seen a barrage of articles & stories about the left actively trying to infiltrate the military/police either like has been an active goal of the right for 40 years or so now.

I’m sure some individuals do but not in the openly encouraged & organized attempts of the right to secure military training for future use.

 

[81usaf92]

I’ve never seen a barrage of articles & stories about the left actively trying to infiltrate the military/police either like has been an active goal of the right for 40 years or so now.

I’m sure some individuals do but not in the openly encouraged & organized attempts of the right to secure military training for future use.

Ive seen more folks in the drug trade try to infiltrate for free meds and a large client base. It happens but you are more likely going to find more washouts and folks that are going to get caught early in the process.

 

[92tide]

BREAKING: US soldier being charged with giving info about troops to white supremacists

 

[TexasBama]

BREAKING: US soldier being charged with giving info about troops to white supremacists

I didn’t see a name. I assume it’s Vladimir.

 

[bigjue24]

I’m picking up some QAnon vibes from you, bj.

I’ll point out that Trump supporters - not an insignificant crowd in number - have openly stated their disdain for the media and many have openly called for a limit to their ability to speak and press freely. I’m more concerned about them than AOC or antifa or other boogeyman’s the Q crowd wants me to research (on clearly biased sites only).

I'm back after some of these comments about me from you keyboard warriors.

You are picking up libertarian principles from me. I think going to either extreme is dangerous, left or right. I believe in individual freedom. You know what this country was founded on not Marxism. I do think the far right has a longer history in this country and that the far-right is an issue and they still are, but the far left is coming on quickly in Western culture and you are blind if you don't see it. We are tearing down statues of Washington and Jefferson. The New York Museum of Natural History is pulling down a statue of Teddy Roosevelt. We've got folks wanting to cancel Ghandi. While at the same time a statue of Lenin was erected today in a town in Germany.

I totally support the right to freedom of the press, but the press has an agenda now, and are very open about it. The majority is left leaning, some far left, but the right is represented in there as well through outlets like Fox, Daily Wire, and many talk radio hosts. They all are "preaching" their truth, and you have to watch them understanding what they are doing, and listen to and watch all sides so you don't get caught in an echo chamber. Which I think several of you in this thread are caught in. I read and watch Fox, CNN, Daily Wire, Huffpost, Breitbart, Buzzfeed, and Yahoo news on a regular basis. I also watch Tim Pool and Jimmy Doore on youtube regularly. Not exactly one sided there am I?

You should research cultural marxism from whatever side or site you want to. Do it yourself in your own way. Just be honest with yourself about what you find. This is a legitimate movement in this country now. It got its start in universities and at Occupy Wall Street. Occupy started out as a movement asking some good questions, but got hijacked along the way. I don't like Marxists and Marxists principles being embraced and pushed in this country because they have led to piles of bodies to big for people to count being pushed in this country.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

I'm back after some of these comments about me from you keyboard warriors.

You are picking up libertarian principles from me. I think going to either extreme is dangerous, left or right. I believe in individual freedom. You know what this country was founded on not Marxism. I do think the far right has a longer history in this country and that the far-right is an issue and they still are, but the far left is coming on quickly in Western culture and you are blind if you don't see it. We are tearing down statues of Washington and Jefferson. The New York Museum of Natural History is pulling down a statue of Teddy Roosevelt. We've got folks wanting to cancel Ghandi. While at the same time a statue of Lenin was erected today in a town in Germany.

I totally support the right to freedom of the press, but the press has an agenda now, and are very open about it. The majority is left leaning, some far left, but the right is represented in there as well through outlets like Fox, Daily Wire, and many talk radio hosts. They all are "preaching" their truth, and you have to watch them understanding what they are doing, and listen to and watch all sides so you don't get caught in an echo chamber. Which I think several of you in this thread are caught in. I read and watch Fox, CNN, Daily Wire, Huffpost, Breitbart, Buzzfeed, and Yahoo news on a regular basis. I also watch Tim Pool and Jimmy Doore on youtube regularly. Not exactly one sided there am I?

You should research cultural marxism from whatever side or site you want to. Do it yourself in your own way. Just be honest with yourself about what you find. This is a legitimate movement in this country now. It got its start in universities and at Occupy Wall Street. Occupy started out as a movement asking some good questions, but got hijacked along the way. I don't like Marxists and Marxists principles being embraced and pushed in this country because they have led to piles of bodies to big for people to count being pushed in this country.

But the far right's influence in the White House or the president saying he'd like to serve more than two terms doesn't bother you at all? That shows where you're really coming from...

 

[bigjue24]

Look, I’ve sat through and had to go through too many threat analysis briefings when I was in the military (specifically military police), and I can tell you for a fact that the biggest threat to America from the fringe groups is squarely on the Right. Specifically the Sovereign Citizen movement. The Antifa and Marxist wannabe crowds can’t decide their end goal and lack any credibility when it comes to start some sorta war compared to the Cousin Eddies.

If you truly believe the far left skateboard wielders are a clear and present danger to our democracy then I guess we are at “agree to disagree” because I’ve seen no historical precedent from an unorganized movement overthrowing a super nation and starting a war.

If you can't see the potential danger of these groups along with the ones you mention then I don't really care what briefing you sat through then you are blind. This a reasonably new movement in this country on the scale it is trying to achieve and it needs to be discussed properly, discredited, and marginalized just like the sovereign citizen folks should be. Instead it is being embraced by politicians and celebrities. I'm not speaking about Black Lives Matter. I actually agree with their call for police reform and the need to deal with the issues in black populations in this country that are unique to them because of their history in this nation. It is the ones trying to co-opt their legitimate movement.

 

[NationalTitles18]

Marxism has been present in this country for literally 170 years. I know a few Marxist, though I don't agree with them. It hasn't been that big a deal, though because of crony capitalism the numbers are likely increasing a little. The right has made it their boogeyman for decades. Not much has changed.

 

[81usaf92]

If you can't see the potential danger of these groups along with the ones you mention then I don't really care what briefing you sat through then you are blind. This a reasonably new movement in this country on the scale it is trying to achieve and it needs to be discussed properly, discredited, and marginalized just like the sovereign citizen folks should be. Instead it is being embraced by politicians and celebrities. I'm not speaking about Black Lives Matter. I actually agree with their call for police reform and the need to deal with the issues in black populations in this country that are unique to them because of their history in this nation. It is the ones trying to co-opt their legitimate movement.

What the anti vaxxers, Scientologist, Illuminati? Really I’m trying to see what you are referring to without dismissing it for another George Soros rabbit hole made by Brietbart . I need evidence instead of it instead of emotional conspiracy. And from reputable sources.

 

[bigjue24]

But the far right's influence in the White House or the president saying he'd like to serve more than two terms doesn't bother you at all? That shows where you're really coming from...

You have no idea where I'm coming from. I just know that he will be removed if he tries. Republicans and Democrats along with the military will remove him if necessary. I just don't think it will be necessary. Where you are coming from is obvious. You can't see the danger of what is on your side because you just want to win. I see the danger of the far left rising, and then guess what? The far-right will rise right up even more to meet them. That's where it gets ugly if any of this actually comes to pass. I sure hope it doesn't, but these groups aren't good. Just go look at the CHAZ and the groups around the country that want to set up similar things in other cities like Nashville, Portland, and Asheville where the governors and mayors had to send in police to physically break them up. We don't want Anti-Fa and the proud boy like groups running around in the streets. They are both awful.

 

[bigjue24]

What the anti vaxxers, Scientologist, Illuminati? Really I’m trying to see what you are referring to without dismissing it for another George Soros rabbit hole made by Brietbart . I need evidence instead of it instead of emotional conspiracy. And from reputable sources.

Just go pick your own sources and research cultural marxism. Do it for yourself from wherever you like and compare it to the rhetoric you hear from the far left. Whatever I might give you won't be good enough because I'm obviously a crackpot conspiracy theorist.

 

[NationalTitles18]

Where you are coming from is obvious. You can't see the danger of what is on your side because you just want to win.

You really don't know what you're talking about.

 

[bigjue24]

You really don't know what you're talking about.

You know what, I sure hope I don't know what I'm talking about and am wrong about all of this.

 

[NationalTitles18]

You know what, I sure hope I don't know what I'm talking about and am wrong about all of this.

I promise the quoted part in my post you don't know what you're talking about and it's obvious.

 

[bigjue24]

I promise the quoted part in my post you don't know what you're talking about and it's obvious.

I hope I'm wrong about everything in this post.

 

[bigjue24]

Interesting take from another professor. Article referenced is from Time magazine. Is that mainstream enough?