Gus Malzahn fired (and (laughable) coaching search...)

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I had no idea.
Don't feel bad, I'm not sure ANY of us knew. CA didn't, I didn't, you didn't.

I knew Saban's first contract (2007) was guaranteed and kinda downside for us, and we kept extending it and giving him (earned) raises. But I had no idea about the buyout. Granted, if Texas wanted him and he wanted to go, they'd pull up a Brinks truck with $33 million about ten minutes later. And then their interference would turn him into another 11-1 coach who lost to Oklahoma every year. Saban would be lucky to have enough players left to close out the first season if he went there.

OK, aggressive rant over.
 

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Don't feel bad, I'm not sure ANY of us knew. CA didn't, I didn't, you didn't.

I knew Saban's first contract (2007) was guaranteed and kinda downside for us, and we kept extending it and giving him (earned) raises. But I had no idea about the buyout. Granted, if Texas wanted him and he wanted to go, they'd pull up a Brinks truck with $33 million about ten minutes later. And then their interference would turn him into another 11-1 coach who lost to Oklahoma every year. Saban would be lucky to have enough players left to close out the first season if he went there.

OK, aggressive rant over.
Well look at Dabo’s and Jimbo’s contract. They have exclusive buyout multipliers that prevent them from going to certain teams. After the Texas scare I think many at UA didn’t want to go through this crap every time Saban gets a wild hair or gets hacked off at the fans. So a buyout makes a heck of a lot of sense now. Back in 2007 we were begging the guy to come just for 5-6 years. We really didn’t think we would be in 2020 with him. So the situation has changed. No we aren’t going to fire him but the university wants to make the asking price astronomical for any one with a serious offer.

Where buyouts are stupid are when you are having to pay a guy like Scott Frost to leave for 28 million dollars. I think Gus’s contract made a heck of a lot more sense than many of these ludicrous ones nationally. Yes they vastly overpaid but you have to put that on the president of Auburn.
 
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Plexico actually said this on Twitter (reminder - he's an Auburn apologist, hardcoare):
If Auburn decides we absolutely want Cristobal, and we are not able to get him away from Oregon, that says more about our program than we probably want to hear.


There's a part of me that under normal circumstances would agree with this. But there's something else that I think too many people don't take into account: not one of us lives inside somebody else's head. Texas' big flaw in their approach is they ASSUME every single CFB coach is motivated by the desire to make big bucks - unless it's Saban or Meyer, and THEY are motivated by "winning national championships at 3 different schools." Again, if that was the motivation then Saban would probably have already won one in Austin and gone elsewhere.

Maybe Mario Cristobal likes the laid back approach. Oregon is happy if you win 9-10 games a year and the Rose Bowl every 3 years or so, they really are. Their expectations - even after playing for 2 national titles in six years - are a little above those of Mississippi State save for the Rose Bowl desire (which is a Big Ten-West Coast thing that will never catch on in the South). His current salary is $2.6 million, and they're pretty content with him.

My point is that Auburn shouldn't be taking it "personally" if Cristobal is motivated by "my family likes it here and I have plenty of money" rather than "if we can't get him, we're not as big as we thought."

They probably aren't as big as some of the loudest mouths think they are, but I don't think it's fair to judge an entire fan base by it's lunacy. (Trust me - I've seen more than my fair share of folks in BDS during games that I wanted to throw over the side of the stadium).
 

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Plexico actually said this on Twitter (reminder - he's an Auburn apologist, hardcoare):
If Auburn decides we absolutely want Cristobal, and we are not able to get him away from Oregon, that says more about our program than we probably want to hear.


There's a part of me that under normal circumstances would agree with this. But there's something else that I think too many people don't take into account: not one of us lives inside somebody else's head. Texas' big flaw in their approach is they ASSUME every single CFB coach is motivated by the desire to make big bucks - unless it's Saban or Meyer, and THEY are motivated by "winning national championships at 3 different schools." Again, if that was the motivation then Saban would probably have already won one in Austin and gone elsewhere.

Maybe Mario Cristobal likes the laid back approach. Oregon is happy if you win 9-10 games a year and the Rose Bowl every 3 years or so, they really are. Their expectations - even after playing for 2 national titles in six years - are a little above those of Mississippi State save for the Rose Bowl desire (which is a Big Ten-West Coast thing that will never catch on in the South). His current salary is $2.6 million, and they're pretty content with him.

My point is that Auburn shouldn't be taking it "personally" if Cristobal is motivated by "my family likes it here and I have plenty of money" rather than "if we can't get him, we're not as big as we thought."

They probably aren't as big as some of the loudest mouths think they are, but I don't think it's fair to judge an entire fan base by it's lunacy. (Trust me - I've seen more than my fair share of folks in BDS during games that I wanted to throw over the side of the stadium).
Well Auburn needs to make a fast and decisive decision if Cristobal is their #1 and turns them down. If they go through anything what Tennessee went through and hire a DC with no experience and has no business getting a job like that then firing Gus will look dumber than giving him a crazy contract.

Auburn isn’t Alabama in which they can afford to be patient in coaching searches.
 

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Well Auburn needs to make a fast and decisive decision if Cristobal is their #1 and turns them down. If they go through anything what Tennessee went through and hire a DC with no experience and has no business getting a job like that then firing Gus will look dumber than giving him a crazy contract.

Auburn isn’t Alabama in which they can afford to be patient in coaching searches.
Their logic now is that he's waiting until after the Pac 12 title game.
might be true, might not.
 
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They are only in that game now because Washington had to cancel due to Covid, and they only found that out 2 days ago.
That part of the reason that I don’t believe that they are waiting. What I believe happened is that some goober looked at his contract and knew his wife liked the State of Alabama and got a lot of decision makers convinced that they could get him easily.
 

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I just don’t buy it. I’m getting the feeling that they went after Cristobal and he said no, and now they are wondering what to do.
What might have happened is they might have had him say, "Yeah, I'll do it," and then he changed his mind, too.

But I suspect they went the route of Texas and thought it was going to be easy pickings.


And who knows? Maybe Mario is still coming to Opelika.
 
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What might have happened is they might have had him say, "Yeah, I'll do it," and then he changed his mind, too.

But I suspect they went the route of Texas and thought it was going to be easy pickings.


And who knows? Maybe Mario is still coming to Opelika.
Yeah and we would all rejoice since we got another punching bag.
 

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After seeing that in this morning's early morning read through, I think it is safe to say, DABO aint ever coming "home" to mama with that buyout. So we can all relax when Coach decides to hang up his practice hat and go fishing.
Well there is also a Bama multiplier to his contract. So it’s more if we got him
 
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Well there is also a Bama multiplier to his contract. So it’s more if we got him
The fact that Dabo allowed them to include that in his contract tells you all that you need to know about his desire to coach at Alabama. He has the clout at Clemson to name the terms of his contract. If he told Clemson that he wanted no buyout clauses, there would be none.
 

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