Russia Invades Ukraine IX

[TexasBama]

Medina is mostly a weapons range and Special Forces Training facility. Been on it many times for training. Our Nuclear weapons now are mostly in Nebraska, Wyoming, Missouri, New Mexico, and the Dakotas. Nellis is always rumored to have some but I’ve never ever heard of their security forces being trained in guarding them. Maybe they do maybe they don’t. Don’t really know any that are outside of that since the minot-Barksdale mishap and several Stratcom commanders trying to get nukes out of highly populated areas.

Now Fort Sam Houston and Camp Bullis has active UXOs on it and much of it you can’t go on because of it. If you go on either it has a very Cold War feeling to it. Medina really is kinda like “a Shopette and a training area”. It’s only real purpose is to not have parents of graduating airmen wandering in places that they aren’t supposed to and interfering with live training and keep them oohing and ahhing at Lackland.

I googled some on Medina and found this. I also didn’t know all the military bases in San Antonio were put under one Command

Remember That Time a Nuclear Weapons Bunker Blew Up in San Antonio?

In 1963, Lackland Air Force Base experienced a cataclysmic explosion. People thought World War III had started. Today, it's been almost completely forgotten.

www.texasmonthly.com

I remember driving by Randolph years ago and the buildings weren’t your typical military look.

 

[Bamaro]

It came out after the dissolution of the USSR that Huntsville was on the list. I guess it was based on the missile commands. It was before the Materiel Command came here...

Maybe they were just trying to target the nazi scientists that got away from them.

 

[81usaf92]

I googled some on Medina and found this. I also didn’t know all the military bases in San Antonio were put under one Command

Remember That Time a Nuclear Weapons Bunker Blew Up in San Antonio?

In 1963, Lackland Air Force Base experienced a cataclysmic explosion. People thought World War III had started. Today, it's been almost completely forgotten.

www.texasmonthly.com

I remember driving by Randolph years ago and the buildings weren’t your typical military look.

Also remember Lemay wanted that Tougher than Nails WWII image of the military to return and was constantly putting civilian life second to the bomb that was going to destroy the Russians. It’s probably why Patton dying before Korea and Mac falling out of favor during Korea probably saved this country from nuclear war. Because Lemay was nowhere as popular as those two. Lemay was the last cowboy and I applaud Kennedy for having the guts to finally stand up to him and the WWII leftovers and tell him “No” during the CMC. Lemay deserves alot of credit for his part in building the ** and SAC, but under his command we were closer to all out nuclear war with the world than we have ever been. Lemay was one of those that believed that we should use a weapon just because we had it.

A lot of crazy stuff was done with the handling of nuclear weapons in this country for years. Especially from the 50’s to the late 70’s. Having warheads in a largely populated area like San Antonio is just bonkers. But what do you expect with a guy like Lemay who believed that the Air Force’s new purpose was to drop the bomb.

 

[TexasBama]

Also remember Lemay wanted that Tougher than Nails WWII image of the military to return and was constantly putting civilian life second to the bomb that was going to destroy the Russians.

George Wallace's running mate

 

[81usaf92]

George Wallace's running mate

Hell of a ticket… both sarcastically and EC wise. They probably costed Humphrey any real shot at the election.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Am I the only one with a little anxiety that Putin's answer to being pulverized with HIMARs and beyond might be tac nukes?

 

[UAH]

Am I the only one with a little anxiety that Putin's answer to being pulverized with HIMARs and beyond might be tac nukes?

Saw a Russian hardliner this week say that they were prepared to attack the delivery points of western weapons on the Polish border. That could be very interesting to see if NATO will allow missiles to target the border areas. It is a dangerous business and any country willing to fire missiles into occupied apartment buildings is capable of anything.

 

[Padreruf]

Am I the only one with a little anxiety that Putin's answer to being pulverized with HIMARs and beyond might be tac nukes?

I cannot imagine any leader being insane enough to use nukes...but with Putin anything is never beyond imagination.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

I cannot imagine any leader being insane enough to use nukes...but with Putin anything is never beyond imagination.

One thing which worries me is we don't have an equivalent answer for it. He doesn't believe we'll bomb Moscow over it...

 

[Tidewater]

One thing which worries me is we don't have an equivalent answer for it. He doesn't believe we'll bomb Moscow over it...

Same thing applies with conventional ammo. Putin knows NATO is never going to invade Russia, so he can expend way more ammo on Ukraine and leave nothing to counter any other invasion.
No, my Machiavellian self says we should invite China to take Siberia, but that would not be nice.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Same thing applies with conventional ammo. Putin knows NATO is never going to invade Russia, so he can expend way more ammo on Ukraine and leave nothing to counter any other invasion.
No, my Machiavellian self says we should invite China to take Siberia, but that would not be nice.

Well, it would solve China's oil problem. They could worry about the permafrost then...

 

[Elefantman]

A lot of crazy stuff was done with the handling of nuclear weapons in this country for years. Especially from the 50’s to the late 70’s.

Like blowing up a Titan II ICBM in Arkansas.

1980 Damascus Titan missile explosion - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[81usaf92]

Like blowing up a Titan II ICBM in Arkansas.

1980 Damascus Titan missile explosion - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Well we got some really irresponsible people handling nuclear codes and weapons even today. From Stratcom generals making their own poker chips to pay off their debts at the casino across the river to a loadmaster at a non Nuke base finding out that a plane just carried nuclear warheads across the country and he was the first to realize it.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Same thing applies with conventional ammo. Putin knows NATO is never going to invade Russia, so he can expend way more ammo on Ukraine and leave nothing to counter any other invasion.
No, my Machiavellian self says we should invite China to take Siberia, but that would not be nice.

Should add to that that he not only doesn't have to fear invasion on the ground, he doesn't even have to worry about his cities, while he pounds Ukraine's to rubble...

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Tom's analysis for the 14/15...

Tom Cooper

 

[BamaFlum]

Saw a Russian hardliner this week say that they were prepared to attack the delivery points of western weapons on the Polish border. That could be very interesting to see if NATO will allow missiles to target the border areas. It is a dangerous business and any country willing to fire missiles into occupied apartment buildings is capable of anything.

And if their targeting is off and accidentally hits Poland and God forbid kills numerous civilians, then all bets are off.

 

[Diogenes]

 

[Diogenes]

Like blowing up a Titan II ICBM in Arkansas.

1980 Damascus Titan missile explosion - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Tom Cooper's short update. It appears he's getting pro-Russian harassment...

Tom Cooper

 

[TexasBama]

Opinion | The West Leaves Ukraine Outgunned Against Russia

Putin’s army has far more and longer-range artillery. Kyiv’s allies are helping, but it isn’t nearly enough.

www.wsj.com