Crime Blotter: Georgia football player Devin Willock, staff member Chandler LeCroy killed in car crash

[Guido]

Why does the type of car matter again? The wrecked vehicle was a 2.5 ton expedition. Not exactly street racing material.

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Why does the type of car matter again? The wrecked vehicle was a 2.5 ton expedition. Not exactly street racing material.

Exactly, you're in a soccer mom mobile trying to outrace a trackhawk. Ain't gonna happen.

 

[BamaInBham]

They all came out of the strip club together, per the pictures that were published. You haven't heard anything that would lead you to believe they were dating. Still want to hear what the other UGA employee that was in the car has to say.

I saw that still picture. There was quite a bit of distance between the 2 girls, then a little more between the trailing girl and the players. It looked like the girls were sent to "pickup the kids to take them somewhere". A still picture can obviously be misleading because it seemed to reflect what UGA would want the girls to do. Can't believe she was 2.5 times the BA level, though I thought she had to be going at least 90+ having sheared 2 utility poles in two and a couple of trees before coming to a stop. Can't imagine her thoughts after they left the road. She obviously was not properly carrying out her responsibilities.

I can't point the finger, though never ending up like this, I could have multiple times because of my own recklessness and stupidity. I was going to see the Stones in '72 at Memorial and approaching McFarland from Birmingham, full of LSD and driving, with a carload, and as we entered the exit I could not feel my legs and feet as I tried to apply the brakes but felt like we were taking off in flight. I told everyone what was happening but I guess my legs and feet, directed by my subconscious, took over and we just stopped normally. Though I did not know the Lord at that time, in fact was an atheist from age 12, I assume He provided the mechanism that enabled me to stop because it was certainly not my conscious brain that orchestrated things. It could have been catastrophic because I was going the normal interstate speed and as you can imagine there was a lot of traffic. I could have plowed into a stationary vehicle at 70 mph. I didn't deserve to be preserved, but IMO, it was only the grace of God. I could have died multiple times from pre school to salvation at 24, not always, but often from my own stupidity and/or recklessness. Hopefully, this was the girl's first time.

Hope they don't skewer UGA unless they are genuinely culpable. Hope she was not on a mission because of a wink and a nod from the admin. It's possible she was on her own.

 

[92tide]

Kirby Smart: No culture problem, no policy change as a result of fatal crash

Georgia coach Kirby Smart said the football program does not have a culture problem and there will be no policy changes as a result of a car accident that killed a player and a support staff member earlier this year. Smart spoke to ESPN on Friday, his first comments on the program’s grim...

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Georgia coach Kirby Smart said the football program does not have a culture problem and there will be no policy changes as a result of a car accident that killed a player and a support staff member earlier this year. Smart spoke to ESPN on Friday, his first comments on the program’s grim offseason that has included two deaths and two arrests.

 

[92tide]

At a meeting of the university’s athletic association board in February, Georgia president Jere Morehead said he wasn’t sure whether policy changes would be made.

“So far, I haven’t seen anything that has caused me concern,” Morehead said. “Obviously we wish the vehicle had been turned in that evening. But the review is ongoing, and I’m confident that if any procedures need to be changed – I’m not sure they will need to be changed – but I’m confident that our athletic director and head coach will do whatever they need to do.”

 

[Guido]

The butterfly effect theorem is fascinating. It states that small actions now could have huge effects in the future. What if the cop who stopped carter and stated he was giving him a break by not arresting him, did arrest him. There would have been publicity, probably a game suspension, and such. Maybe, just maybe he would not have been racing that night. Maybe just maybe both kids would still be alive today. This is all unknown of course, but maybe just maybe.

 

[NationalTitles18]

They are going all in on putting all the blame on the young lady, aren't they?

Two people died and they see no need to review and potentially change policies, including oversight that might prevent another event like this.

 

[AlexanderFan]

They are going all in on putting all the blame on the young lady, aren't they?

Two people died and they see no need to review and potentially change policies, including oversight that might prevent another event like this.

Sounds like they believe the necessary people will side with them. Wonder why.

 

[crimsonaudio]

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Kirby Smart: No culture problem, no policy change as a result of fatal crash

Georgia coach Kirby Smart said the football program does not have a culture problem and there will be no policy changes as a result of a car accident that killed a player and a support staff member earlier this year. Smart spoke to ESPN on Friday, his first comments on the program’s grim...

www.ajc.com

Considering we have police reports / statements saying this sort of excessive speeding / racing has happened at least five times in the last calendar year - that we're aware of - I'm a bit shocked at Bowlcut's response here.

 

[DawgAlum2054]

They are going all in on putting all the blame on the young lady, aren't they?

Two people died and they see no need to review and potentially change policies, including oversight that might prevent another event like this.

What policies does Alabama have in place that Georgia does not at this time? What changes will bama make in regards to an incident like this?

I laid out ideas such as gps monitors in university owned vehicles, this board gave pushback on that as an option

so I ask again, what policies would anyone suggest be implemented that aren’t currently in place?

 

[UAllday]

What policies does Alabama have in place that Georgia does not at this time? What changes will bama make in regards to an incident like this?

I laid out ideas such as gps monitors in university owned vehicles, this board gave pushback on that as an option

so I ask again, what policies would anyone suggest be implemented that aren’t currently in place?

Coach BowlCut, is that you?

 

[NationalTitles18]

What policies does Alabama have in place that Georgia does not at this time? What changes will bama make in regards to an incident like this?

I laid out ideas such as gps monitors in university owned vehicles, this board gave pushback on that as an option

so I ask again, what policies would anyone suggest be implemented that aren’t currently in place?

This did not happen at Alabama, so the question is immaterial and meant purely for deflection.

The question is since this did happen at UGA, what is UGA going to do to assure its employees don't have cars they shouldn't have and that their policies are actually enforced instead of just being an idea on paper/in the cloud?

Any university with intelligent people running the show should be evaluating and adjusting their policies and procedures about now. Learning from someone else's mistakes is much smarter than learning from your own.

In UGA's case, not learning from their own mistakes would be idiotic. Deflecting blame or attention elsewhere will not fix their problems.

 

[twofbyc]

What policies does Alabama have in place that Georgia does not at this time? What changes will bama make in regards to an incident like this?

I laid out ideas such as gps monitors in university owned vehicles, this board gave pushback on that as an option

so I ask again, what policies would anyone suggest be implemented that aren’t currently in place?

Start by monitoring use of vehicles rented for specific purposes, for one.

 

[DawgAlum2054]

This did not happen at Alabama, so the question is immaterial and meant purely for deflection.

The question is since this did happen at UGA, what is UGA going to do to assure its employees don't have cars they shouldn't have and that their policies are actually enforced instead of just being an idea on paper/in the cloud?

Any university with intelligent people running the show should be evaluating and adjusting their policies and procedures about now. Learning from someone else's mistakes is much smarter than learning from your own.

In UGA's case, not learning from their own mistakes would be idiotic. Deflecting blame or attention elsewhere will not fix their problems.

disagree, with bama most likely having the exact same policies in place that Georgia currently does, this could just as easy take place at bama unless they too learn from Georgias mistake and act proactively instead of reactively

what policies would you suggest Georgia implement that do not currently exist?

 

[NationalTitles18]

disagree, with bama most likely having the exact same policies in place that Georgia currently does, this could just as easy take place at bama unless they too learn from Georgias mistake and act proactively instead of reactively

what policies would you suggest Georgia implement that do not currently exist?

Just stop with the ludicrousness. This isn't about Alabama, as much as you want it to be.

I acknowledged that any university run by intelligent people are reviewing their own policies and procedures now.

And since I don't know precisely UGA's policies and procedures or why this woman was allowed to have this car when she shouldn't have been allowed to have it I cannot tell you where UGA's system broke down and allowed this to happen. That's a question for the PTB at UGA, not me.

All I do know is that their present system failed and it's up to them to fix it.

This isn't a funny subject at all, but your attempt at deflection is silly.

 

[DawgAlum2054]

Just stop with the ludicrousness. This isn't about Alabama, as much as you want it to be.

I acknowledged that any university run by intelligent people are reviewing their own policies and procedures now.

And since I don't know precisely UGA's policies and procedures or why this woman was allowed to have this car when she shouldn't have been allowed to have it I cannot tell you where UGA's system broke down and allowed this to happen. That's a question for the PTB at UGA, not me.

All I do know is that their present system failed and it's up to them to fix it.

This isn't a funny subject at all, but your attempt at deflection is silly.

the assumption that she was “allowed to have it” is also silly. Maybe Georgia athletic program told her to drink and drive and race it too?

im all for honest suggestions of items that could fix this, but the item that would Fix it would most likely prevent it from happening most anywhere

 

[AlexanderFan]

disagree, with bama most likely having the exact same policies in place that Georgia currently does, this could just as easy take place at bama unless they too learn from Georgias mistake and act proactively instead of reactively

what policies would you suggest Georgia implement that do not currently exist?

Probably should’ve paid the AJC a little more to not do so much digging.

Ironically, we are seeing the measures in place at Georgia. University employee driving them around, University employee at the scene allowing someone directly involved in the accident to leave without repercussions (until the diagram of the wreck came out), and plausible deniability by the head coach. They would’ve gotten away with it too..

 

[DawgAlum2054]

Now if something comes out that Georgia did know she had the vehicle and instructed her to entertain players until 2 AM and drive them home, then shame on Georgia and they should pay heavily

 

[The Ols]

What policies does Alabama have in place that Georgia does not at this time? What changes will bama make in regards to an incident like this?

I laid out ideas such as gps monitors in university owned vehicles, this board gave pushback on that as an option

so I ask again, what policies would anyone suggest be implemented that aren’t currently in place?

I’m guessing none in place but some in the works?

 

[DawgAlum2054]

I’m guessing none in place but some on the works?

I truly do expect that bama and many programs look at this incident and inact policies that arent already in place. Georgia gets to be the poster child in a terrible incident and programs smart like bama will learn from it, and I truly do expect they will

 

[NationalTitles18]

the assumption that she was “allowed to have it” is also silly. Maybe Georgia athletic program told her to drink and drive and race it too?

im all for honest suggestions of items that could fix this, but the item that would Fix it would most likely prevent it from happening most anywhere

So you tell me:

What procedures did UGA have in place to keep her from having this car when she did?

Had this happened in the past (unauthorized use)?

How was the unauthorized use detected in the past if it happened?

Why wasn't the behavior corrected, if their was precedent?

If it had not happened before, what happened this time that broke the system?

Why was she under the impression she could have the car when she shouldn't if she thought there would be repercussions?

She was obviously "allowed" to have the car. She did have it after all.

What did UGA do to stop that from happening, if anything? Why didn't it work this time?