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Seriously, WHY do we always play like that in JHS?

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justinkjones1993

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It doesn't seem to matter how good Alabama is, how bad Auburn is, if the game is in Jordan-Hare, they seemingly play out of their minds while we struggle with the most basic stuff like snapping the ball, special teams, penalties, and of cours the flukey nonsense that Auburn has go their way.

On paper, if you look over the last 15 years, 2011 is literally the only game in Jordan-Hare Stadium where a good Alabama team beat a bad Auburn team the way they should have. Decisively.

2009 - squeaker ended by the championship drive.

2013 - Kick six.

2015 - Championship Alabama team letting Auburn hang around late in the game.

2017 - Championship Alabama team totally collapsing and getting run over by Jarett Stidham???

2019 - Shootout game, but dumb penalties and a pick six off Najee Harris's butt.

2021 - Championship runner up taken to 4 OT's by Harsin's awful team.

Then tonight, thank God for the result, but why, why, why do we always play so tight in that stadium?? I don't understand it. This literally happens nowhere else.

Is this just a case of Auburn practicing their entire season solely for Bama while we treat it like another game? Are these guys just in our heads? What is the issue and why can't Saban ever get over this hump and just dominate Auburn?
 
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It’s a valid question. My only possible answer is that Auburn is a prominent program, with one big game they work for, but too focused on that one game each year to perform at their best for the other 11 games.

In short, their fans, their players, and their coaches focus so much on Alabama, and to a slightly lesser extent Georgia, that they play letdown ball for the balance of their schedule.
 
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justinkjones1993 said:
It doesn't seem to matter how good Alabama is, how bad Auburn is, if the game is in Jordan-Hare, they seemingly play out of their minds while we struggle with the most basic stuff like snapping the ball, special teams, penalties, and of cours the flukey nonsense that Auburn has go their way.

On paper, if you look over the last 15 years, 2011 is literally the only game in Jordan-Hare Stadium where a good Alabama team beat a bad Auburn team the way they should have. Decisively.

2009 - squeaker ended by the championship drive.

2013 - Kick six.

2015 - Championship Alabama team letting Auburn hang around late in the game.

2017 - Championship Alabama team totally collapsing and getting run over by Jarett Stidham???

2019 - Shootout game, but dumb penalties and a pick six off Najee Harris's butt.

2021 - Championship runner up taken to 4 OT's by Harsin's awful team.

Then tonight, thank God for the result, but why, why, why do we always play so tight in that stadium?? I don't understand it. This literally happens nowhere else.

Is this just a case of Auburn practicing their entire season solely for Bama while we treat it like another game? Are these guys just in our heads? What is the issue and why can't Saban ever get over this hump and just dominate Auburn?
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Put it to you this way. I would rather have this bugaboo then Michigan who can’t win a playoff/post season game to save their life.
 
It gets psychological. After one or two bad things happen there then the players and coaches start thinking something bad will happen every trip there.

In this game however there were additional things in play. Their loss to NMS definitely worked against us. Maybe some of our players were thinking after that game "How tough can Auburn be?" Meanwhile Freeze probably used it as motivation telling his guys that they've become a bit of a laughing stock after that loss but they can immediately regain respect by beating Bama. Their players and fans also believed that Freeze knew how to beat Saban ( and he almost did) so that helped them as well.
 
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bamacon said:
Personally it seems to me that CNS calls the AU game far more conservatively than others. Not sure if that is the case but it seems like I’m always thinking we do things in the Iron Bowl that we never do throughout the season.
But I’m perfectly fine with the Voodoo explanation too…
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Usually we are playing in the SECC immediately after, and it almost feels like we are just trying to survive/get past the AU game to focus on that game. Meanwhile, no matter what kind of season they’ve had, AU is obsessed with the Iron Bowl and will do everything in their power to win it (including using valuable prep time during the practice for the previous week’s opponent and thereby losing that game, apparently). And it’s almost like the less AU has to play for, the more they get up for us. I do believe if we had not had that 4th down run called back for a holding call, AU was about to fold. But the second they think they have a chance, all bets are off.
 
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It is pretty obvious they pretty much ignored NM St so they could install the triple option packages that gave us problems today. That is why NM St beat them. Look i don’t like Hugh Freeze, but he installed some stuff that almost gave him the win to cement him with the auburn booster and base
 
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I don’t care if this comes across as “being a whiner” but the officials were downright awful in 2013, 2019, and this year. That can’t be ignored. They LITERALLY rewrote the rule book in 2019 by letting them line up for a field goal with no time left in the first half. We lost that game by 3 points….

Yes, Bama plays like crap there but we get absolutely no help whatsoever from the officials.
 
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colbysullivan said:
I don’t care if this comes across as “being a whiner” but the officials were downright awful in 2013, 2019, and this year. That can’t be ignored. They LITERALLY rewrote the rule book in 2019 by letting them line up for a field goal with no time left in the first half. We lost that game by 3 points….

Yes, Bama plays like crap there but we get absolutely no help whatsoever from the officials.
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They were awful both ways today. If we play a clean game, they are never an issue for us
 
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colbysullivan said:
Saban continues to treat the IB as “just another game”, even though years of experience should have changed his mind by now. It’s clear he’s never going to get it. In his mind, LSU is our big rival. It is what it is.
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I have thought this since 2013. The drumming we put on LSU that year just to go down and choke to AU proved it to me. LSU is Saban's "Auburn".
 
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RammerJammer14 said:
Usually we are playing in the SECC immediately after, and it almost feels like we are just trying to survive/get past the AU game to focus on that game. Meanwhile, no matter what kind of season they’ve had, AU is obsessed with the Iron Bowl and will do everything in their power to win it (including using valuable prep time during the practice for the previous week’s opponent and thereby losing that game, apparently). And it’s almost like the less AU has to play for, the more they get up for us. I do believe if we had not had that 4th down run called back for a holding call, AU was about to fold. But the second they think they have a chance, all bets are off.
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In the auburn thread, I mentioned how much I dislike playing auburn in their home at the end of the season because Bama usually has to play a good East team the following week. It's usually a physical game with the barn and anything can happen. Unless they're really bad, they played out of their minds on the plains while everything you mentioned regarding our mindset is legitimate coming into the Iron Bowl.
 
Home field advantage is big in college football, but this goes way beyond that. It just seems that our guys get too into their own heads when down there. They play tight and the barn plays loose. It's like the expectations crush our guys.
 
Probius said:
Home field advantage is big in college football, but this goes way beyond that. It just seems that our guys get too into their own heads when down there. They play tight and the barn plays loose. It's like the expectations crush our guys.
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That's because auburn at home has nothing to lose especially when you're barely bowl eligible while Bama has everything to lose!
 
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colbysullivan said:
I don’t care if this comes across as “being a whiner” but the officials were downright awful in 2013, 2019, and this year. That can’t be ignored. They LITERALLY rewrote the rule book in 2019 by letting them line up for a field goal with no time left in the first half. We lost that game by 3 points….

Yes, Bama plays like crap there but we get absolutely no help whatsoever from the officials.
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we always seem to be ONE play from putting them away. Today it was Kendrick Law's TD getting called back. If that play stands, it's 2012 all over again.
 
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crimsonaudio said:
The officals were awful tonight, but any fan from EITHER side could lobby massive complaints.

It's ridiculous how bad the officiating is in the SEC.
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If you need any evidence or affidavits, I'm sure Gary Danielson would be happy to provide ad nauseum coverage of every possible penalty that could have been called! 😆
 
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