Thoughts on NIL

I don't think players being paid is the issue. I mean it happened long before NIL.

The portal is the issue. Its basically free agency. Kids don't show loyalty anymore.

And don't even get me started on this 30-day rule. Absolutely killing us.

Allow 129ish schools to focus on like 4 programs and throw all the money they like. Of course they are going to leave.
 
Is anyone actually frustrated with our NIL Collective relative to the other universities? We should be bringing Brinks Bank trucks up to these player's dorm rooms to get them to fight with us. If every one of these kids is leaving for money, why the heck aren't we fighting fire with fire?

18 dollars a month from me isn't going to convince anyone to stay, where are the multi-millionaires who graduated from Alabama? Why aren't they stepping up to put a back stop on this issue?
They know a bad investment when they see one.
 
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Is anyone actually frustrated with our NIL Collective relative to the other universities? We should be bringing Brinks Bank trucks up to these player's dorm rooms to get them to fight with us. If every one of these kids is leaving for money, why the heck aren't we fighting fire with fire?

18 dollars a month from me isn't going to convince anyone to stay, where are the multi-millionaires who graduated from Alabama? Why aren't they stepping up to put a back stop on this issue?

Really? We should be paying these kids whatever they ask to get them to stay? That is the absolute worst thing we could do IMHO. If we have to suffer for a few years until this madness stops, then so be it. For the past 17 years we've made almost every investment possible in the football program to give these kids the absolute best of everything so they would have the most opportunity to improve their own brand. Many of these kids, before NIL, bought in to the process, worked their tails off, and became successful, some in the NFL, some in coaching, and the rest in the real world. How many of those same kids, had they been given a boat load of money, would have worked as hard as they did back then? Some would but most would not. A lot of these kids that are leaving are going to realize they had it made at Alabama. I know some other programs have probably invested in the program like we have but many other places have not. FSU, for example, is supposedly struggling financially with no real end in sight unless they can get out of the ACC hell-hole they are in. Louisville may be worse off than FSU. It wasn't that long ago that Kirby was having to beg UGA to build an indoor practice facilty which they eventually did. We had a very nice indoor facility for years. The grass (and NIL/collective money) isn't always greener on the other side of the fence.
 
If there aren’t better guidelines/limitations Bama could well get outspent to the point of being an also-ran.

We just don’t have deep enough pockets to compete with the richest schools/alumni.
 
I don't think players being paid is the issue. I mean it happened long before NIL.

The portal is the issue. Its basically free agency. Kids don't show loyalty anymore.

And don't even get me started on this 30-day rule. Absolutely killing us.

Allow 129ish schools to focus on like 4 programs and throw all the money they like. Of course they are going to leave.
Combine the portal with massive amounts of money being thrown at kids in the portal and it’s a disaster for all but the wealthiest.
 
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If there aren’t better guidelines/limitations Bama could well get outspent to the point of being an also-ran.

We just don’t have deep enough pockets to compete with the richest schools/alumni.
Good thing we've got a really good coach.
 
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If there aren’t better guidelines/limitations Bama could well get outspent to the point of being an also-ran.

We just don’t have deep enough pockets to compete with the richest schools/alumni.

No, I don't see that happening at all. We very well may have to wander in the desert for a few years but it won't be 40, I can assure you that. I agree with Wes Neighbors that eventually the stupid, crazy NIL money is going to dry up but even until that happens just because a team has accumulated a bunch of talent, doesn't mean they will automatically win every game. There are talented players out there that given the right coaching can go out and win against a more talented but less motivated team. Remember the Utah Sugar Bowl game several years ago? I'm excited about Coach DeBoer and the coaching staff that he is putting together and I think he is going to do great things at The University of Alabama. It may be a good thing to trim the fat and have to start over on some things.
 
This has been some good convo ... made me want to do another look at the recruiting rankings since 2020 per 247Sports with the two teams that played in the championship this year:

2020: Meatchicken 10th – Washington 16th
2021: Meatchicken 13th – Washington 30th
2022: Meatchicken 9th – Washington 95th (only had 10 commits)
2023: Meatchicken 17th – Washington 26th

In comparison, Texas A&M who's had more NIL involvement in both recruiting and the transfer portal had a better recruiting class than both schools for all four classes, including the top class in 2022 and has 0 to show for it.
^^^^^^^^^^This. A blind squirrel didn’t get Georgia in the playoffs or Bama in the Championship game. Exhibit A - it ain’t all about recruiting top tier talent because they’re unproven at the college level.
 
There will always be someone who has more to spend in a competition to spend money. And we will lose simply because we have expended so little as a fanbase to achieve a winning tradition.

Dabo may have it right after all chasing these 5 star prima donnas is not a sustainable winning strategy. This is not sustainable for Alabama. Texas, UGA, FSU, and OSU seem to be trying their hand now at buying a team. A&M failed at it. Kirby wants to destroy Bama for whatever unknown reason.

The only way this is fixed...

1) Withdraw from the NCAA if they are unwilling to get involved in a solution.
2) Schools contract directly with players for their NIL with mandatory buyout clauses and academic credit transfer restrictions.

I have stated before that you can have institution funded NIL that includes full-cost of attendance scholarship, medical-disabililty insurance, and sharing of program NIL royalties. This would be an 85 limit.

Then you can have unrestricted NIL not licensed by the university. Players can earn what they can negotiate, transfer as often as they want but get no scholarship, no medical-disability insurance, and no sharing of program NIL. This would be sort of like the Kobe's going straight to the NBA. With the caveat, they still have to be a student. Your roster would be limited to 6 unrestricted NIL players with the remainder roster spots allocated to walkons.

In essence 5% of your roster would be 5 star players chasing market value, which is what is happening now. If you want to go from institution NIL to unrestricted NIL buyout your contract and have at it.
 
No, I don't see that happening at all. We very well may have to wander in the desert for a few years but it won't be 40, I can assure you that. I agree with Wes Neighbors that eventually the stupid, crazy NIL money is going to dry up but even until that happens just because a team has accumulated a bunch of talent, doesn't mean they will automatically win every game. There are talented players out there that given the right coaching can go out and win against a more talented but less motivated team. Remember the Utah Sugar Bowl game several years ago? I'm excited about Coach DeBoer and the coaching staff that he is putting together and I think he is going to do great things at The University of Alabama. It may be a good thing to trim the fat and have to start over on some things.

Look at MLB. The Mets has one of the highest payroll’s annually and consistently misses the playoffs. It is all about team chemistry and player development. Alabama is in a bad situation right now because of the transfer portal and not NIL. I also agree the NIL money is going to dry up eventually. What ROU does it provide these boosters to keep shelling out millions of dollars per year to these college players. I know that boosters paying players has been around for decades but not on this level and I feel like it will run its course quicker than most people expect.
 
Where do you look that up? How accurate is the info?

Most if those lists are based on NIL aggressiveness. How actively a program uses it as a tool to recruit.

We are not remotely competitive

The money is, or at least should, be there. But Saban got us a discount. Since NIL has been a thing players have been willing to come to Bama and take the Saban discount. We aren't offering half of what other major programs are now. That won't cut it without Saban. Deboer is a great coach but he will need talent to compete consistently enough to make the playoffs. If you don't believe me please look at our schedule this year

If we had a more aggressive NIL in place before the announcement

By the way Yea Alabama, the NIL collective,.does.has some good merch available if youd rather not do the monthly subscription and you can always buy the jersey of one of the guys that stayed to thank them if you wanna make sure the money benefits the player of your choice as much as possible.
 
I'm confused as to how Florida State ended up in hot water with the NCAA over misuse of NIL. I thought that the NCAA wasn't the governing body over NIL :unsure:
 
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So, in essence, even if a kid is just a so so player, he can get recruited, make a killing in college (the place where the next generation of the work force is supposed get trained), just bank that money over 4 years, and then when the eligibility is up, BOOM....he's set for life without ever having to work a day in his life. That could theoretically be what ends up happening. The work force SUCKS as it is. The government's "stay home so you won't catch Covid" money pretty much put a dagger through it, and it certainly wasn't great before Covid. Now, we're going to have a bunch of millionaires who made their fortune in college. Some by doing little to nothing. And here I'll be, working till I'm on my back in a box with flowers on top.
 
I've been thinking a lot about NIL and portal over the last year, and while I do think something will happen in the next year, who knows what it will look like.

I think the key piece to all of this will be revenue sharing and collective bargaining. The NIL collectives are, frankly, 1) insulting, that a group would pander to the fanbase to contribute when there are billions of dollars being made off college football already, and 2) horribly regulated.

The players need to be employees of the University and share in the revenue that gets generated, and it will keep them tied to that university because they're an employee with an employment contract.

The question, in my mind, is how do you prevent schools from paying players enormous amounts of money, when other schools won't be able to keep up. I think the answer is having a salary cap in place in terms of what a team can cumulatively pay players. You could also do it where you have only so many scholarships that can pay up to a certain level. Like say only 10 scholarship players can earn $500K - $1M, and 10 scholarships can pay $250K - $500K, etc.

I don't know that there is a great answer that exists, but there might be. I just want to see the best of both worlds where the players can profit off themselves, players aren't transferring ever year for the next best pay day, and some stability is re-instituted into the sport.
 
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