Here's the thing though, and unfortunately this is just a reality of life, these kids have a talent that they should be able to profit off of, and, to me, it doesn't matter how old they are. It's doubtful that any player would make enough money over a four year college career to set them up to the point that they are financially independent, but I suppose it's possible. Regardless, most players will go on to something else post college, and they should be able to benefit from the effort they put out on the football field and entertainment value they provided during that time.
Thoughts on NIL
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Here's the thing though, and unfortunately this is just a reality of life, these kids have a talent that they should be able to profit off of, and, to me, it doesn't matter how old they are. It's doubtful that any player would make enough money over a four year college career to set them up to the point that they are financially independent, but I suppose it's possible. Regardless, most players will go on to something else post college, and they should be able to benefit from the effort they put out on the football field and entertainment value they provided during that time.
A really good coach isn’t going to overcome billionaires buying players with money we can’t match.
Interesting article on how this is really supposed to work & explains why Saban went medieval on Jimbo. I have not looked into exactly what got FSU slapped, but what the intent was supposed to be was for these guys to be able to get paid for the NIL regardless of which school they went to. What I don’t understand is how this got off the rails so quickly and why the NCAA feels like they cannot enforce what they set up as rules of the program. Pretty clear that this is happening and they turning a blind eye.
Will The NCAA Intervene On NIL Deals Tied To Enrollment? - Above the Law
That's starting to become the focus of some questions surrounding recent public offers made to current and prospective college athletes.abovethelaw.com
Sounds like if I'm an O-Lineman, and decide to go to Texas, I can sign my scholarship papers, and then say, "okay, where's my $50,000". Obviously not what NIL was meant to be, but it's where we are. Gee, so an O-Lineman can get $50,000 at Texas, and Bond's "business decision" was reportedly $366,000. If I'm an O-Lineman, I want a raise!!
The bottom line is that money rules everything…like it or not.
And for many of the super-wealthy alumni who are really into football, NIL affords many of them the opportunity to “own†a football franchise without purchasing a professional team.
I know I’m cynical, but unless some guidelines are put in place sooner than later, we may be on the losing end here.
Alabama will never be able to compete financially with the richest schools.
And heaven forbid that super rich alumni at places like UVA decide they’d like to actually be good in football because they could outbid all but the deepest pockets.
Thank God the Ivies don’t care about it.
And for many of the super-wealthy alumni who are really into football, NIL affords many of them the opportunity to “own†a football franchise without purchasing a professional team.
I know I’m cynical, but unless some guidelines are put in place sooner than later, we may be on the losing end here.
Alabama will never be able to compete financially with the richest schools.
And heaven forbid that super rich alumni at places like UVA decide they’d like to actually be good in football because they could outbid all but the deepest pockets.
Thank God the Ivies don’t care about it.
I saw where you mentioned a salary cap earlier. YES!! That has GOT to be implemented and FAST. If...it's not too late already
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I'm not sure that Jimbo face-planting with loads of NIL-funded talent is proof that a good coach can succeed without loads of NIL-funded talent.
I'd be thrilled if he proves that he can win in the SEC in spite of it, but it's not likely no matter how good a coach he is.
Even Saban would struggle if he had to face SEC powers with a diluted roster due to inability to remain competitive in the NIL game.
Hate it. These kids are famous because of the university they attend. These kids are living off the backs of legends in college football who didn't receive any compensation other than the scholarship provided (in today's market a full athletic scholarship is easily over $100,000 a year when you factor in all the amenities). Also a factor is that the fanbases are so loyal they would watch a three legged armadillo at right guard try to block a German Shepherd with one eye coming on a blitz.
These kids are nothing without the university they attend, not the other way around.
These kids are nothing without the university they attend, not the other way around.
Alabama can compete financially with any school out there; I can promise you that.
The Collective is not in any way connected to the school...
I believe what the concern is how strong is the Collective?
The Collective is not in any way connected to the school...
I believe what the concern is how strong is the Collective? On a further note, who is running the Collective?
The Collective is not in any way connected to the school...
I believe what the concern is how strong is the Collective?
Well the problem is that Alabama has never really gotten behind paying for something that they don’t see where all of the money goes. I mean we are bordered by 4 states with some of the top baseball colleges and 4 states with educational lottery programs. Guess what Alabama doesn’t have.
Like I said Alabama doesn’t have whales or large wealthy alumni bases to offset middle class boosters that resist nil and extra expenses that the AD proposes.
No, we can't.
There are oil barons in TX that have more money by themselves than every Bama booster combined.
The best measure of alumni wealth is reflected in the endowment of the school.
Alabama has about $1 billion in its endowment.
By contrast, aTm, ND and MI all have around $17 billion.
That’s like saying the Braves and Cardinals can compete financially with the Yankees and Dodgers. Yes we can make attractive offers and offer better coaching, but if it is about dollars we will lose everytime.
Alabama’s game from here on out is building a culture and tell everyone what Malachi Moore told them. Yeah maybe gamble a little bit on talent but we gotta stop this trend of hiring ace recruiters over ace coaches.
Are you saying that Lottery money is being used by their collectives?
No. It was to show you the type of people you are expecting to support a collective. Alabamians are very suspicious of giving into things in which they don’t know where all of the money goes. My point is if Alabamians won’t support a lottery that would improve their sports because they are too suspicious of people of skimming off the top then why are we expecting them to support a collective.
You really need whales and/or a wealthy alumni base to play this game. Expecting middle and lower class people to make up the difference of 1 whale from Texas is just ludicrous.
I get real heated when I see appeals asking me to financially take on a monthly subscription to a direct bribery fund. I have a job, it is not my job to pay college athletes on top of everything else I do as a fan, including season tickets.
If there were tiers of financial tiers then we are tier 3 possibly a low tier 2.
Something will eventually bring us closer to a nfl system over this mlb system. But this constant “yea Alabama is going to make us competitive†is ignoring the simple fact that every alabama fan in the world could give 18 bucks to and still be wiped out by 1 whale’s donation from Texas.
I own a Multi-Billion dollar hedge fund and give 7 figures to Yea Alabama, so I say there are plenty more people like me that are Alabama fans. The problem is, Alabama does not have to buy a team, at least not yet.
As for all these "Oil Barrons" in TX, well they are more myth than fact. The Texas and OK colleges get a lot of middle east money. These pudknocker boosters are just landowners and get maybe 5% of the take from big oil.
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