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KrAzY3

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Really? LOL! The guy has yet to coach one practice, much less one game and you're at this point and claim you've been "patient"? LOL!
I said before he was hired he couldn't recruit, had no ties to the southeast and this was an issue.

You tell me, why does he not even offer Sayin (Twitter post indicated he did offer)? Huge QB prospect out of California, DeBoer is an offensive guy with the highest paid OC in Grubb, and they don't even offer Sayin? What is that about? Do you know?

Then, he goes and adds Mack which is now being spun as a well Sayin already said he was leaving move. All I see is Sayin wasn't offered by DeBoer and then DeBoer brings in another QB. That's what I know for a fact.
 
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Eh, the NCAA needs to stop all this nonsense of portal and NIL. The luster of college football has been diminished greatly. I've always been in agreement with others about athletes should be given more per diem money for them to use to 'live' a little. And my feelings were like this LONG BEFORE all the deflections from the Tide in the portal. These kids aren't learning anything about commitment. When football is over for them, what will they do when they get in the real world and realize commitment actually is really important. Ok, rant over. :) Hope everyone has a great day and Roll Tide!
 

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Talk is he told them during his one on one he would be looking elsewhere. He might’ve given himself time to think it over, and he might’ve held off just to give the eeyores a break from trying to tie their shoelaces together to strangle themselves.

The only comfort we can take as Alabama fans is that this issue will be fixed after it’s allowed to erode this foundation Saban built. No other program will have to go through this one sided nonsense.
oh the talk is that.it wasn't the talk 2 days ago. as a matter of fact people were excited about the competition. now revisionist say oh I saw this coming.
 

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This sucks and I'm not sure what else I'm supposed to think about it.

I know people don't want me talking about it, but DeBoer didn't even recruit Sayin even though he was in his own backyard.

This is a mess, and I'm going to go ahead and say it. I'm not really sure if DeBoer is smoke and mirrors or not.

He got Penix because Penix was at Indiana as the same time as him. Penix's coming out party, his 2020 game against Ohio State was after DeBoer was gone. DeBoer's success at Washington came with Penix playing amazing Heisman caliber football against west coast defenses. The question is which of the two deserves credit?

We will find out if DeBoer is legit in a hurry. He can't recruit, he just can't, he can't keep Alabama's talent, he has no connections to blue chip guys, he couldn't even try to recruit Sayin out of high school for some reason.

I've been told he can win with 3 stars. Well soon we'll find out, but I'm honestly irritated that DeBoer had every chance to develop a relationship with Sayin (who is from the west coast) and for some reason blue chips just never have been his thing. Washington State offers Sayin but DeBoer doesn't bother?

It is what it is, but what it is right now doesn't look good and I've tried to see the bright side but what I'm seeing now is the result of a guy that hasn't developed good relationships with blue chips.
DeBoer did offer Sayin
 

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oh the talk is that.it wasn't the talk 2 days ago. as a matter of fact people were excited about the competition. now revisionist say oh I saw this coming.
I don't have the exact answer to what happened in this regard. What I do know is that the situation all of you want to play out paints CKD as a complete and utter moron for bringing in another quarterback. There's plenty of evidence out there that CKD is not a complete and utter moron. The situation everyone wants to run with also makes Sayin out to be a spoiled brat who is scared of competition. The Elite 11 competition he won shows that's not the case either.
 

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I said before he was hired he couldn't recruit, had no ties to the southeast and this was an issue.

You tell me, why does he not even offer Sayin? Huge QB prospect out of California, DeBoer is an offensive guy with the highest paid OC in Grubb, and they don't even offer Sayin? What is that about? Do you know?

Then, he goes and adds Mack which is now being spun as a well Sayin already said he was leaving move. All I see is Sayin wasn't offered by DeBoer and then DeBoer brings in another QB. That's what I know for a fact.
So the guy PURPOSELY doesn't recruit top rated QB's or has something about him that is so off-putting that he can only ger 3 star players?

I'm legit asking. He has yet to coach at a place like Alabama so to compare his week tenure here and compare it to even UW is a bit unfair, IMO.
 

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I said before he was hired he couldn't recruit, had no ties to the southeast and this was an issue.

You tell me, why does he not even offer Sayin? Huge QB prospect out of California, DeBoer is an offensive guy with the highest paid OC in Grubb, and they don't even offer Sayin? What is that about? Do you know?

Then, he goes and adds Mack which is now being spun as a well Sayin already said he was leaving move. All I see is Sayin wasn't offered by DeBoer and then DeBoer brings in another QB. That's what I know for a fact.
Did you question every recruit Saban didn't offer? Would you waste time on a kid you absolutely know isn't coming to your school? Sayin is a little on the short side in regards to quarterback, maybe CKD wants taller quarterbacks, who knows?
 

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Who knows, but JS isn't the kind of talent that would be run off by Mack if he really wants to be at Bama.

Y'all, believe it or not this news not only doesn't surprise me but once again I'm not letting this damper my enthusiasm of our future.

It's been a rough few days of losing great/potentially great players, but we'll be just fine.

And, if you haven't read up on Austin Mack, do so. You'll feel a little better. He's instantly going to be at an advantage over all the other QBs, even JM and certainly Sayin who all have to learn a new system fast.
Agreed.

What people forget...because we are filled with emotions about all that's going on....we forget that we've had a massive coaching staff change. We've had the best of all time retire.

We also seem to wash over the fact that the last few years, with talent covering up issues, that we've steadily been coming back to the pack. Saban had us so far out in front that coming back to the pack still leads to being in the championship picture.

I've said it before, I'll say it again....we will purge the kids that came to play for Saban....we'll have a transition period....but my goodness, we have a staff that is better than what we've had in several years. Once they get settled we'll be fine.
 

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Look for saying to Ole Miss, Auburn, probably USC those will be the big checks coming in, also this portal is like being on sanctions it'll take a couple of years, I really hope Haynes is not next, it's just a domino affect right now
 

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You don’t bring in a 6’6 top 10 qb recruit as a junior and knows your system just to sit.
He's going to be a redshirt freshman with 4 years to play. He reclassifed last year and skipped his SR. year of HS to be able to come in and learn the system.

Irconically, he's committing to CKD/Grubb and their system not Alabama, which is what Sayin did with CNS.
 

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DeBoer did offer Sayin
I checked Sayin's page and saw no offer from Washington. I did search on it hence I saw he got an offer from Washington State.

I'm obviously frustrated, but also incorrect on that aspect.

Even if I'm misreading the situation, I think taking Mack before Sayin declared was terrible optics. It certainly left me with a particular impression, but I'm not sure how I'm supposed to react to seeing what I feared would play out, playing out (I specifically brought up Sayin when Mack committed).

I was against NIL. I wanted a better recruiter. Watching the talent Saban assembled get decimated immediately is nightmarish and I think avoidable.

Last time I felt like this was after Shula's ten win season when I stated my thought on him and was given a timeout that didn't end until Shula had coached his way out of a team. It felt like watching a train crash you knew was coming.

I'm legit asking. He has yet to coach at a place like Alabama so to compare his week tenure here and compare it to even UW is a bit unfair, IMO.
I guess I should try to give myself a timeout here. I was adamantly against NIL, I argued with several posters here about it. I warned about Texas, I knew what this would end up as.

Then I was really worried about DeBoer's ability to relate to blue chips and keep them around. It's all coming true, and I can't see the positive because it's the bad things I said would happen. I also warned about Sayin leaving when Mack committed.

I hope I'm wrong, I really really do but so far I haven't been and it's not good.

Edit: I want to make one thing clear despite my frustration. I've never, at any point said DeBoer can't coach. I think he can coach, it's just the talent side of thing where he has issues.
 
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Guys, it is a rebuild. Total rebuild. We all knew it, though many had blinders on. Three important things to keep in mind as these kids keep on leaving (there will be more).

* You have a better coaching staff now than you have had in 5 years. Even with Saban on those teams, this staff is flat better.
* You still have a roster capable of winning now, especially given the much better coaching that these kids are going to get.
* No matter how this ends up, you are still Alabama, the greatest football program in the game.

You will bounce back. You always do.

Roll Tide
 

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This one really ticks me off.

He's been committed for a long time and even is an EE and now he just jets.

It's becoming pretty apparent that a lot of guys haven't been here because of the Alabama brand but have been here soley because of CNS and his track record with high NFL draft picks.

I'll go ahead and say what I have been holding back on JS...

This dude will win the Heisman.... just now it will be at another school.
 
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