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RammerJammer14 said:
Agreed in theory. But which would be better: should they be employees like faculty who get a paycheck for their services but wouldn’t be students, or should they be employees like students who get hired at the library? And if the later, does that then clash with employment laws on who can be hired/“interviewed”?
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Specifics would need to be worked out by the legal minds, they just need something other than this unlimited free agent system that it has become
 
If it's any solace, as with all things we will get thru this. Even back in the day everything was not always rosy. Remember how the Scott Hunter team tested Coach Bryant's patience
 
Slowpoke Catracho said:
As fluid as the portal is right now, they could also transfer back at some point in their college career.
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I don't think that either will start next year (Noland or Sayin). The plan going into spring is that Will Howard will likely start in 2024, then hand over the reigns.
 
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NotHogFan said:
So Sayin leaves Bama to transfer to Ohio State with their new OC Bill Obrien? That really makes a lot of sense. What are these kids thinking? The 13 million I saw a story on must be true. Saban saw all of this coming a couple of years ago its no wonder he retired.
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BoB = pro-style offense
CKD = rpo "system" offense

Perhaps Sayin is trying to improve his stock for the NFL and not become pegged as a "system QB."
 
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There has been a push by some institutions to have the NIL collectives managed by the schools themselves. The primary reason being it would give them an opportunity to better monitor and police the usage of NIL funds across all sports plus have the ability to coordinate it with normal fundraising. The biggest fear many of these universities have is the money pouring into the collectives will significantly negatively impact the normal fundraising cash flow. Let’s face it. There are only so many cookies in the cookie jar.

The way things are stacking up in the courts, restrictions on transfers by the NCAA will being going away. The only way to control it most likely will be players being treated as employees and contracted for services for a certain number of years. And this opens up an entirely different “can of worms”. And if that happens, you already had those talking unionization of players.

The most irritating thing for me is knowing for years the NCAA knew the courts would fall in favor of players in terms of NIL. They formed a committee three years prior, and the committee did nothing. No recommendations, no critical thought, and nothing in way of even attempting to place impactful guidelines in terms of preventing chaos.

Unfortunately it will get worse before it gets better. And I’ll be spending football Saturday in the fall doing something else.
 
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There has been a push by some institutions to have the NIL collectives managed by the schools themselves. The primary reason being it would give them an opportunity to better monitor and police the usage of NIL funds across all sports plus have the ability to coordinate it with normal fundraising. The biggest fear many of these universities have is the money pouring into the collectives with significantly negatively impact the normal fundraising cash flow. Let’s face it. There are only so many cookies in the cookie jar.

The way things are stacking up in the courts, restrictions on transfers by the NCAA will being going away. The only way to control it most likely will be players being treated as employees and contracted for services for a certain number of years. And this opens up an entirely different “can of worms”. And if that happens, you already had those talking unionization of players.

The most irritating thing for me is knowing for years the NCAA knew the courts would fall in favor of players in terms of NIL. They formed a committee three years prior, and the committee did nothing. No recommendations, no critical thought, and nothing in way of even attempting to place impactful guidelines in terms of preventing chaos.

Unfortunately it will get worse before it gets better. And I’ll be spending football Saturday in the fall doing something else.
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Pickle ball :)
 
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CB4 said:
There has been a push by some institutions to have the NIL collectives managed by the schools themselves. The primary reason being it would give them an opportunity to better monitor and police the usage of NIL funds across all sports plus have the ability to coordinate it with normal fundraising. The biggest fear many of these universities have is the money pouring into the collectives with significantly negatively impact the normal fundraising cash flow. Let’s face it. There are only so many cookies in the cookie jar.

The way things are stacking up in the courts, restrictions on transfers by the NCAA will being going away. The only way to control it most likely will be players being treated as employees and contracted for services for a certain number of years. And this opens up an entirely different “can of worms”. And if that happens, you already had those talking unionization of players.

The most irritating thing for me is knowing for years the NCAA knew the courts would fall in favor of players in terms of NIL. They formed a committee three years prior, and the committee did nothing. No recommendations, no critical thought, and nothing in way of even attempting to place impactful guidelines in terms of preventing chaos.

Unfortunately it will get worse before it gets better. And I’ll be spending football Saturday in the fall doing something else.
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I’ve written off the idea that it can get better. The Supreme Court basically decided that amateur athletics is illegal. There is no putting that genie back in the bottle. The only way now to truly excise this nonsense from collegiate athletics is for an actual minor league independent from schools to form, and major collegiate athletics basically becomes like the Ivies, who made the conscious decision decades and decades ago to nix high level athletic competition.
 
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RammerJammer14 said:
I’ve written off the idea that it can get better. The Supreme Court basically decided that amateur athletics is illegal. There is no putting that genie back in the bottle. The only way now to truly excise this nonsense from collegiate athletics is for an actual minor league independent from schools to form, and major collegiate athletics basically becomes like the Ivies, who made the conscious decision decades and decades ago to nix high level athletic competition.
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At least we had the last dynasty :)
 
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CB4 said:
There has been a push by some institutions to have the NIL collectives managed by the schools themselves. The primary reason being it would give them an opportunity to better monitor and police the usage of NIL funds across all sports plus have the ability to coordinate it with normal fundraising. The biggest fear many of these universities have is the money pouring into the collectives will significantly negatively impact the normal fundraising cash flow. Let’s face it. There are only so many cookies in the cookie jar.

The way things are stacking up in the courts, restrictions on transfers by the NCAA will being going away. The only way to control it most likely will be players being treated as employees and contracted for services for a certain number of years. And this opens up an entirely different “can of worms”. And if that happens, you already had those talking unionization of players.

The most irritating thing for me is knowing for years the NCAA knew the courts would fall in favor of players in terms of NIL. They formed a committee three years prior, and the committee did nothing. No recommendations, no critical thought, and nothing in way of even attempting to place impactful guidelines in terms of preventing chaos.

Unfortunately it will get worse before it gets better. And I’ll be spending football Saturday in the fall doing something else.
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If managed by the schools it ends up being subject to Title IX. As long as it’s a booster run program it does not.
 
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CajunCrimson said:
Can I donate a million to a collective on Thursday and bet a million on the same team on Friday?

And then influence an outcome on Saturday? 🤔

asking for a friend ;)
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If you’re powerful enough to literally purchase a player for your school, it is out of the realm of possibility you can purchase the “performance” of one as well.

I’m powerful booster Daddy Warbucks of Whatsamatta U. Buying players left and right. But in the process I’ve met numerous players from rival program. And Whatsamatta is playing the biggest rival- NE Directional. Daddy Warbucks really hates NE and wants a win desperately. And also wants to make a few bucks on the side as well. And because of his prior relationship with a few NE players via the collective….well you get my drift.

Absurd? Probably but not out of the realm of possibility.
 
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