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[Coach25]

Not a bad idea, but I would place the review at the conference level. Lets' keep the schools from hiding things. Not that the conferences couldn't be corrupt but they have a vested interest in keeping all members happy.

True… but SEC isnt going to want to have to review every deal, they are going to want the schools to take care of that. They are like a lot of businesses, they want to delegate the actual work and sit back and enjoy the splendors of the success. They only step in when they have to

But I wouldn’t mind if the conferences have a review of the NCAA decisions to make sure they are level across all of the conferences so they can’t take it easy on some and hammer other teams. It’s time to hold the “accounters” accountable.

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

The only solution in my eyes is run every NIL deal through the school and compliance office. This way when something isn’t on the up and up, schools have to explain why the compliance office didn’t catch it. It can also protect schools from things they don’t have any control over. All it takes is 1 rouge booster, 1 contact before a player has signed to the school, 1 anything and boom the school gets hit with sanctions.

When NIL can be so unregulated and run through so many shady entities, no wonder it’s the Wild Wild West in NIL. They don’t even have to even tell what the money is for “as long as it’s not pay for play.” In the link below it talks about the gray areas in NIL, with some states not even having NIL laws that they can’t be enforced because they have no laws about it.

https://iconsource.com/everything-about-nil/

Some schools have a compliance office in name only. There is a school in West Opelika (or was it East Notasulga) that comes to mind...

 

[B1GTide]

Some schools have a compliance office in name only. There is a school in West Opelika (or was it East Notasulga) that comes to mind...

Yep - need a clearing house.

 

[Coach25]

Wonder if they have thought about tampering by school rivals based on NIL. I mean if you are really a fanatic and willing to give a player millions of dollars for your school, who is to say they wouldn’t give hundreds of thousands to a player to set up another school for sanctions.

In this scenario… Lets say you have a company in Alabama. You are a die hard Auburn fan (boo) but know that if Alabama gets caught in a pay for play scheme that they will get sanctioned and possibly lose scholarships, get people suspended, fines, etc.

Would you not help your team more by hurting your rival with tampering and offering a player an NIL deal based solely if they come to Alabama to play. Give them benefits before they sign with the tide. And leave just enough bread crumbs for even the NCAA to follow. Then have an “anonymous source” turn the NIL deal in to the NCAA.

Recruiting services could let you know if a player is highly Likely to sign with what’s schools. He may already even be committed but all it takes is a small tampering and there is hardly a way to prove you did it to hurt a rival instead of helping your business. IMO

 

[Tidelines]

Devious, but after the Jelks debacle and UT's backstabbing I put nothing out of bounds for Auburn or Tennessee. People usually reap what they sow. Tennessee has eaten the biggest slice of karma pie ever. Perhaps...they will keep that in mind.

 

[The Ols]

Wonder if they have thought about tampering by school rivals based on NIL. I mean if you are really a fanatic and willing to give a player millions of dollars for your school, who is to say they wouldn’t give hundreds of thousands to a player to set up another school for sanctions.

In this scenario… Lets say you have a company in Alabama. You are a die hard Auburn fan (boo) but know that if Alabama gets caught in a pay for play scheme that they will get sanctioned and possibly lose scholarships, get people suspended, fines, etc.

Would you not help your team more by hurting your rival with tampering and offering a player an NIL deal based solely if they come to Alabama to play. Give them benefits before they sign with the tide. And leave just enough bread crumbs for even the NCAA to follow. Then have an “anonymous source” turn the NIL deal in to the NCAA.

Recruiting services could let you know if a player is highly Likely to sign with what’s schools. He may already even be committed but all it takes is a small tampering and there is hardly a way to prove you did it to hurt a rival instead of helping your business. IMO
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That’s some Lee County thinking if I’ve ever seen it right there!!!

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

Wonder if they have thought about tampering by school rivals based on NIL. I mean if you are really a fanatic and willing to give a player millions of dollars for your school, who is to say they wouldn’t give hundreds of thousands to a player to set up another school for sanctions.

In this scenario… Lets say you have a company in Alabama. You are a die hard Auburn fan (boo) but know that if Alabama gets caught in a pay for play scheme that they will get sanctioned and possibly lose scholarships, get people suspended, fines, etc.

Would you not help your team more by hurting your rival with tampering and offering a player an NIL deal based solely if they come to Alabama to play. Give them benefits before they sign with the tide. And leave just enough bread crumbs for even the NCAA to follow. Then have an “anonymous source” turn the NIL deal in to the NCAA.

Recruiting services could let you know if a player is highly Likely to sign with what’s schools. He may already even be committed but all it takes is a small tampering and there is hardly a way to prove you did it to hurt a rival instead of helping your business. IMO

awbern attempted to do just THAT several years ago with what they called Operation Red Dog...

Remember when an awbern booster took a couple of our players on a fishing trip and gave one of them a laptop?

 

[Bpilktree]

Pitino says college basketball needs salary cap

St. John's coach Rick Pitino said the sport needs a salary cap and a new hierarchy to thrive after a ruling allows players to unionize.

www.espn.com

Basketball related but you have to assume older coaches in football are not thinking same thing. I think we start seeing more and more older coaches dip out earlier then expected because of the nil changes in football and basketball.

 

[crimsonaudio]

Wonder if they have thought about tampering by school rivals based on NIL. I mean if you are really a fanatic and willing to give a player millions of dollars for your school, who is to say they wouldn’t give hundreds of thousands to a player to set up another school for sanctions.

In this scenario… Lets say you have a company in Alabama. You are a die hard Auburn fan (boo) but know that if Alabama gets caught in a pay for play scheme that they will get sanctioned and possibly lose scholarships, get people suspended, fines, etc.

Would you not help your team more by hurting your rival with tampering and offering a player an NIL deal based solely if they come to Alabama to play. Give them benefits before they sign with the tide. And leave just enough bread crumbs for even the NCAA to follow. Then have an “anonymous source” turn the NIL deal in to the NCAA.

Recruiting services could let you know if a player is highly Likely to sign with what’s schools. He may already even be committed but all it takes is a small tampering and there is hardly a way to prove you did it to hurt a rival instead of helping your business. IMO

You mean like Operation Red Dog where barners tried to frame Alabama recruits by posing as Bama boosters and offering them cash?

 

[davefrat]

Anyone interested in revisiting how the NCAA basically picks and chooses how to enforce rules against certain schools, here's a throwback to how the NCAA handled the allegations against ND and Kimberly Dunbar who was but wasn't really a booster depending on who you asked and how it might affect the Golden Dome.

Kimberly Dunbar

 

[cthorne22]

You mean like Operation Red Dog where barners tried to frame Alabama recruits by posing as Bama boosters and offering them cash?

... OR
Just pay a former player who is down on his luck (e.g., Gene Jelks) $47k to make up accusations

 

[Coach25]

You mean like Operation Red Dog where barners tried to frame Alabama recruits by posing as Bama boosters and offering them cash?

Ding ding ding

 

[Coach25]

awbern attempted to do just THAT several years ago with what they called Operation Red Dog...

Remember when an awbern booster took a couple of our players on a fishing trip and gave one of them a laptop?

Oh I know I was hinting at some of that and other shady dealings out of the barn.

 

[RammerJammer14]

If that happened, how would that affect Title IX?

It would probably nuke it from orbit. If the players aren’t students and aren’t official school teams, I don’t think Title IX applies. See club sports and intramurals for example.

 

[Coach25]

Pitino says college basketball needs salary cap

St. John's coach Rick Pitino said the sport needs a salary cap and a new hierarchy to thrive after a ruling allows players to unionize.

www.espn.com

Basketball related but you have to assume older coaches in football are not thinking same thing. I think we start seeing more and more older coaches dip out earlier then expected because of the nil changes in football and basketball.

I think you meant you have to assume they are thinking the same thing. With that I 100% agree. I wouldn’t want to coach college this day and age. You can’t even coach a player too hard anymore or they get their feelings hurt and go in to the portal.

Think about how Bobby Knight would have handled NIL and Transfer Portal having to recruit a player he already had on his team or having to deal with a player making millions of dollars with the me me me attitude. It would not have been pretty IMO.

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

The very reason CNS left the pros to return to CFB was that you couldn't coach a guy that had all kinds of attitude and various stipulations in his contract.

CFB has now become the NFL...

 

[rolltide7854]

You mean like Operation Red Dog where barners tried to frame Alabama recruits by posing as Bama boosters and offering them cash?

The Ucheat booster that lived in Memphis would definitely be the type to try something like this. I can't remember his name but he passed away several years ago.

 

[crimsonaudio]

The Ucheat booster that lived in Memphis would definitely be the type to try something like this. I can't remember his name but he passed away several years ago.

Gone and forgotten - I had to google it but won't desecrate this fine forum with his pitiful name.

 

[editder]

The Sacks their QB will take will be punishment enough.

I said what I said.

That’s not going to happen. They’ve never thrown a pass.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

The very reason CNS left the pros to return to CFB was that you couldn't coach a guy that had all kinds of attitude and various stipulations in his contract.

CFB has now become the NFL...

This is why Saban retired. I think I might retire from college sports as well.