2024 Presidential Election, V

[AWRTR]

Of course it has. IMO this is really only newsworthy because of what`s seemingly a juxtaposition with Biden`s apparent cognitive issues and a resultant inability to go off script.

That’s exactly why it’s important. He gets off script he’s a babbling mess. It seems pretty important at this point.

 

[dayhiker]

Correct. This is why I hate corporate journalism and refuse to partake in any of it. They lied to us non-stop for years about Biden's mental acuity, but the debate (if you want to call it that) exposed them. Some have doubled-down whereas others are acting like they are as surprised as the rest of us and have started calling for Biden to step down. The part that makes me shake my head is that is seems only a small minority of Americans are asking the logical question: if they lied to us about that, what else are they lying about?

I'm not sure, but it's a very long list.

 

[dtgreg]

Sorry. Is your assertion that, say, MSNBC ( Morning Joe, Rachel Maddow, et al ) doesn`t do " interviews " of public figures and politicians that are of a political persuasion that mirrors that of their viewership? Certainly, Right wing leaning networks and radio pander to the choir, just as Left leaning media does. I think that`s pretty obvious. Neither are paragons of truly objective reporting and " journalism ". They are propaganda organs for the opposing ideologies.

I implore you to read what you posted. You're asking me to count Joe Scarboro, as Right-Wing a "Newt Gingrich Republican" as has ever taken a breath, as a "Lefty"? Can you really not take a W?You've already won every battle. The Bridge-Too-Far was burning our Constitution and handing our Government to a dictator.

What policy does Liz Cheney not stand for that makes her a Commie? She'd be the first to vote for Segregation and Jim Crow to be legalized and all non-whites deported if passed through Congress and signed by a President. You know, formalities. She's definitely NOT COOL with letting the Prez sic the awesome powers of the FBI and DOJ and IRS upon anyone he wishes to pressure. If Trump were not so bad, why did she give up everything?

 

[Tideflyer]

I implore you to read what you posted. You're asking me to count Joe Scarboro, as Right-Wing a "Newt Gingrich Republican" as has ever taken a breath, as a "Lefty"? Can you really not take a W?You've already won every battle. The Bridge-Too-Far was burning our Constitution and handing our Government to a dictator.

What policy does Liz Cheney not stand for that makes her a Commie? She'd be the first to vote for Segregation and Jim Crow to be legalized and all non-whites deported if passed through Congress and signed by a President. You know, formalities. She's definitely NOT COOL with letting the Prez sic the awesome powers of the FBI and DOJ and IRS upon anyone he wishes to pressure. If Trump were not so bad, why did she give up everything?

My friend, you must not have watched Morning Joe during the last, oh, I don`t know, 3 years? You`re right if you say Joe Scarborough WAS a Republican, but he sure as hell isn`t one now. He and his wife and co-host Mika Brizenski are without question the biggest Joe Biden supporters and apologists ( at least until the debate ) on the planet this side of Karine Jean Pierre! They wouldn`t be the headline morning show on MSNBC if they weren`t!
By the way, you don`t know me personally, so you really don`t have any idea what is and is not a "W" for me, politically or otherwise. And where did this Liz Cheney stuff come from?

 

[CrimsonJazz]

If Trump were not so bad, why did she give up everything?

Short answer: she didn't. That family amassed a fortune on blood, bullets and oil. She's a neocon that was in a position of power to help keep the bombs dropping, but this is rapidly becoming a losing position with conservatives in this country. She'll land on her feet, though. The scum always rises to the top.

 

[Bamaro]

My friend, you must not have watched Morning Joe during the last, oh, I don`t know, 3 years? You`re right if you say Joe Scarborough WAS a Republican, but he sure as hell isn`t one now. He and his wife and co-host Mika Brizenski are without question the biggest Joe Biden supporters and apologists ( at least until the debate ) on the planet this side of Karine Jean Pierre! They wouldn`t be the headline morning show on MSNBC if they weren`t!
By the way, you don`t know me personally, so you really don`t have any idea what is and is not a "W" for me, politically or otherwise. And where did this Liz Cheney stuff come from?

I'm guessing that you haven't watched much Morning Joe either. Just because Joe S realizes that trump is a menace to democracy doesn't mean he's not still very Republican conservative.

 

[81usaf92]

Short answer: she didn't. That family amassed a fortune on blood, bullets and oil. She's a neocon that was in a position of power to help keep the bombs dropping, but this is rapidly becoming a losing position with conservatives in this country. She'll land on her feet, though. The scum always rises to the top.

The weird thing is that the Democrats are hailing her as a hero even with her very public fight over gay marriage with her lesbian sister. Calling it messy would be a huge understatement.

Honestly if there is a hero in all of Trump’s right wing rivals I would say Romney and Jeb are just about it.

 

[Tideflyer]

I'm guessing that you haven't watched much Morning Joe either. Just because Joe S realizes that trump is a menace to democracy doesn't mean he's not still very Republican conservative.

Well, I don`t know what to tell you then. I guess everyone can believe what they choose to believe. I`ve simply taken Joe S. at his word concerning his deep love and admiration for Joe Biden. If he remains a conservative, he`s doing a pretty good job of hiding it. Then again, maybe he`s just lying to his predominately left wing, progressive audience.

 

[Go Bama]

Well, I don`t know what to tell you then. I guess everyone can believe what they choose to believe. I`ve simply taken Joe S. at his word concerning his deep love and admiration for Joe Biden. If he remains a conservative, he`s doing a pretty good job of hiding it. Then again, maybe he`s just lying to his predominately left wing, progressive audience.

It's probably got something to do with a paycheck.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

The weird thing is that the Democrats are hailing her as a hero even with her very public fight over gay marriage with her lesbian sister. Calling it messy would be a huge understatement.

Honestly if there is a hero in all of Trump’s right wing rivals I would say Romney and Jeb are just about it.

At this point, I genuinely believe most Dems would hail Bin Laden as a hero if he was still around and trying to "get Trump."

 

[81usaf92]

At this point, I genuinely believe most Dems would hail Bin Laden as a hero if he was still around and trying to "get Trump."

Cenk’s nephew actually did say the US deserved 9/11 live on air. He got fired… or let go from TYT over it.

But I think it’s weird at the strange bedfellows each side takes. I never thought the Republicans would ever cozy up to Putin nor did I ever think the left would cozy up to Hamas. Crazy world

 

[Go Bama]

At this point, I genuinely believe most Dems would hail Bin Laden as a hero if he was still around and trying to "get Trump."

FTR, not me.

 

[92tide]

FTR, not me.

ftr, not anyone.

 

[92tide]

Cenk’s nephew actually did say the US deserved 9/11 live on air. He got fired… or let go from TYT over it.

But I think it’s weird at the strange bedfellows each side takes. I never thought the Republicans would ever cozy up to Putin nor did I ever think the left would cozy up to Hamas. Crazy world

“the left” is not cozying up to hamas

 

[81usaf92]

“the left” is not cozying up to hamas

If you say so, but those massive pro Palestinian protests around the country chanting “from the river to the sea” seems to be something like support

 

[jthomas666]

The weird thing is that the Democrats are hailing her as a hero even with her very public fight over gay marriage with her lesbian sister. Calling it messy would be a huge understatement.

Honestly if there is a hero in all of Trump’s right wing rivals I would say Romney and Jeb are just about it.

Her actions wrt Trump were heroic, imo; she sacrificed her political career over it. Of course, that doesn't mean that all of her actions have been heroic.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

FTR, not me.

And I absolutely believe you. Alas, I cannot say that about so many others out there.

 

[jthomas666]

“the left” is not cozying up to hamas

Haven't you heard? Daring to suggest that Palestinian non-combatants should be protected is code for unconditional support for Hamas.

(See also Dick Cheney attacking anyone who questioned post 9-11 policies.)

 

[CrimsonJazz]

Cenk’s nephew actually did say the US deserved 9/11 live on air. He got fired… or let go from TYT over it.

But I think it’s weird at the strange bedfellows each side takes. I never thought the Republicans would ever cozy up to Putin nor did I ever think the left would cozy up to Hamas. Crazy world

It really is nuts out there. TYT is even backing off the woke train a little, whereas others are jumping in head first. One of the leftists out there I genuinely enjoy listening to is Jimmy Dore. He is what I like to call a "real leftist." He understands that both the DNC and GOP have thrown the working class overboard and there are no answers to be found among these people. I don't care for socialist solutions that he prefers, but at least he calls balls and strikes against the establishment with amazing consistency.

 

[81usaf92]

Her actions wrt Trump were heroic, imo; she sacrificed her political career over it. Of course, that doesn't mean that all of her actions have been heroic.

Yeah, but I doubt she would have survived even if she said nothing. The 3 vote states have increasingly become the more radical bunches and it was probably only a matter of time before they went after her. Yes what she did was great but I find it very late in the Trump era.

I forgot about McCain as well. I think him and Romney were the original Never Trumpers. Ironically the ACA only exists now because of McCain.