Disney vs. Direct - How long???

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Disney has also apparently demanded that as part of any deal, Directv give up any future claims against Disney for anti-competitive activity. I suspect that Directv's lawyers will advise against that concession.
 

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Honestly this isn’t even that bad. Sinclair basically killed the mlb by refusing to allow streaming services carry them. That was 5 years ago and it still hasn’t changed.
Sinclair did not refuse to allow streaming services to carry their channels, they demand a ridiculous amount of money per subscriber and the streaming services, plus Dish Network, refused and dropped the channels. Sinclair way overpaid for the regional sports channels and tried to make it up on the subscriber's dime.

Disney has also apparently demanded that as part of any deal, Directv give up any future claims against Disney for anti-competitive activity. I suspect that Directv's lawyers will advise against that concession.
That is because of the Fubo lawsuit that has stopped the launch of Venu Sports. DirecTV filed a statement of support for the lawsuit months ago but has not officially join the suit. Disney is trying to prevent them from ever joining it if they wanted too.
 
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I would encourage people to switch over to Youtube tv, Sling, Hulu, or whatever. Direct TV has got worse over the years. Their standalone app, Direct TV Stream isn't very good and very slow to load on tvs, and it buffers a lot. Now, let me be clear, this is on Disney, they're the one who pulled those off tv, not Direct tv.
 

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Just pulled the trigger on YTTV. Pretty safe. Free 21 day trial and then a discount for the first few months.
It’s always been very good and very dependable.

Now that it also has pip multiview for 4 games at once I couldn’t imagine trying something else.

Oh and it also has unlimited DVR saving.

I just checkmark all NCAA games and never miss anything. Way more convenient than having to manually hunt and search for specific games to record weekly.
 

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Being on traditional cable, I don't have a dog in this fight.

But I do find it interesting. DTV is losing subscribers left and right. Separate and apart from DTV, ESPN is losing viewers, compounded by the fact that they overpaid for content.

ESPN needs additional revenue to remain profitable. DTV needs to cut costs to remain profitable. Both need viewers. Both have corporate parents with deep pockets -- ATT for DTV, Disney for ESPN -- but both corporate parents have their own sets of problems only tangentially related to this catfight.

Who wins the game of chicken? I don't know.

If you're not a regular consumer facing loss of channels, all the different circumstances make it fascinating to watch. But don't get complacent -- however you get your TV, this sort of showdown will happen to your provider sooner or later.
 

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Being on traditional cable, I don't have a dog in this fight.

But I do find it interesting. DTV is losing subscribers left and right. Separate and apart from DTV, ESPN is losing viewers, compounded by the fact that they overpaid for content.

ESPN needs additional revenue to remain profitable. DTV needs to cut costs to remain profitable. Both need viewers. Both have corporate parents with deep pockets -- ATT for DTV, Disney for ESPN -- but both corporate parents have their own sets of problems only tangentially related to this catfight.

Who wins the game of chicken? I don't know.

If you're not a regular consumer facing loss of channels, all the different circumstances make it fascinating to watch. But don't get complacent -- however you get your TV, this sort of showdown will happen to your provider sooner or later.
ESPN will pick up these subscribers one way or another. It is DTV that needs this to happen. America loves its football.
 

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... But don't get complacent -- however you get your TV, this sort of showdown will happen to your provider sooner or later.

Totally agree. It seems to bounce from provider to provider, year after year, but the common denominator is ESPN.

Doesn't require much thinking to see who the culprit is here.

Extortion is too strong of a word, blackmail might be okay, but let's just call it leverage. :)

As others have mentioned, this is the reason it usually happens at the beginning of football season.

I expect it to only get worse for SEC fans, and those with providers exclusive to the SEC viewing region, now that they have exclusive SEC coverage.

As the ESPN fiefdom grows, the serfs will continue to pay through the nose.

And, as @4Q Basket Case has stated above, your particular provider is not exempt from this annual stalemate.

Just my 2¢ :)
 
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ESPN will pick up these subscribers one way or another. It is DTV that needs this to happen. America loves its football.
Sunday Ticket is on YTTV now. DTV is such an archaic system anyway, I don’t know why anyone would still use it or traditional cable for that matter. (Yes, I know YTTV had their own dispute with ESPN fairly recently. I’m not saying they’re immune to this, but they are by far the best option.)
 

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Yeah even as great as YouTube TV is they are still susceptible to ESPN playing chicken with them on contract negotiations.

It was about 3 years they pulled this mess right when Bowl Season started in December.
 
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Sunday Ticket is on YTTV now. DTV is such an archaic system anyway, I don’t know why anyone would still use it or traditional cable for that matter. (Yes, I know YTTV had their own dispute with ESPN fairly recently. I’m not saying they’re immune to this, but they are by far the best option.)
Direct has moved to streaming now, so it's basically the same platform as all the other streaming services. In a perfect world, they'd like to sell you the internet connection and then get you to use them for TV content. However, it's the contract they want to lock you into that is the problem.

Being older, if the price is right, I'd probably prefer land line cable if a decent option/price was available (because they usually don't do contracts).

I'll probably use streaming for the near future. Our new neighborhood already has fiber installed.

Only way I'd go back to Direct is if it was the last/only option.
 

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Being on traditional cable, I don't have a dog in this fight.

But I do find it interesting. DTV is losing subscribers left and right. Separate and apart from DTV, ESPN is losing viewers, compounded by the fact that they overpaid for content.

ESPN needs additional revenue to remain profitable. DTV needs to cut costs to remain profitable. Both need viewers. Both have corporate parents with deep pockets -- ATT for DTV, Disney for ESPN -- but both corporate parents have their own sets of problems only tangentially related to this catfight.

Who wins the game of chicken? I don't know.

If you're not a regular consumer facing loss of channels, all the different circumstances make it fascinating to watch. But don't get complacent -- however you get your TV, this sort of showdown will happen to your provider sooner or later.
Dunno who wins, but we as the consumer are the lo$er$...🙄
 

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Direct has moved to streaming now, so it's basically the same platform as all the other streaming services. In a perfect world, they'd like to sell you the internet connection and then get you to use them for TV content. However, it's the contract they want to lock you into that is the problem.

Being older, if the price is right, I'd probably prefer land line cable if a decent option/price was available (because they usually don't do contracts).

I'll probably use streaming for the near future. Our new neighborhood already has fiber installed.

Only way I'd go back to Direct is if it was the last/only option.
Direct’s streaming sucks though
 

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