Game Thread: Catchall for other games today to get the bad taste out of your mouth

[BamaFanInTally]

That proves my point. You have a legit reason to hate Harbaugh just like we do with Kirby.

Well, if Kirby was cheating he either needed to do a lot more of it, or do it better. Saban was his daddy.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

I was halfway kidding but OSU almost completed the pass. A few more defenders might have helped.

I don't think the refs stop play if they see way too many defenders lined up. If they do, then my plan probably wouldn't work.

It is a flaw in the system. If Ohio State had committed a penalty, there would be a 10 second runoff and the game is over. The rule should be to put the time back on.

 

[day-day]

It is a flaw in the system. If Ohio State had committed a penalty, there would be a 10 second runoff and the game is over. The rule should be to put the time back on.

I think if OSU had completed the pass for a first down, the clock would stop, the refs would also flag the penalty so OSU would have even more time to decline and set up to get the next play off before the clock re-started. Maybe I'm remembering it wrong but it seems that the tactic could backfire.

 

[Al A Bama]

Also the OPI by our TF WR and the clock management by Day. We were in FG range with 30 seconds left and just handed the game to Oregon.

After watching games today, I predict that Ohio State will win the National Championship.

Now, I still hope that Bama does, but Bama’s DEFENSE CAN’T GET OFF THE FIELD! IF a team is on their own 1 yard line, against Bama, I would recommend that they go for it on 4th down.
So sad!

Here’s hoping Bama beats 10RC this week.

 

[Al A Bama]

Well…

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1845249210175647796

That was an ASSAULT by Kirby. After watching that video, the SEC must take action.

 

[carder24]

Lots of 'good' teams this year (with flaws), I've not seen any elite teams.

Reminds me a lot of 2007.

And Penn and Miami could both easily have had losses now

 

[crimsonaudio]

And Penn and Miami could both easily have had losses now

yup, Miami arguably *should* have two.

 

[Krymsonman]

you NEED to watch how genius this is
:10 left, Oregon calls a timeout they intentionally add a 12th man late to ensure no big gain occurs ball is snapped, no big gain obviously it’s a penalty BUT 1) :04 ticks off clock 2) no big gain :06 left only time for 1 play WIN

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1845320775525429709

You know, that makes perfect sense. Throw an extra guy out there to make sure you don't give up anything big. It's only a 5 yard penalty. That was 12 participating, not 1 running off the field. Make it a 15 yard penalty and that would stop it.

 

[cbi1972]

You know, that makes perfect sense. Throw an extra guy out there to make sure you don't give up anything big. It's only a 5 yard penalty. That was 12 participating, not 1 running off the field. Make it a 15 yard penalty and that would stop it.

Maybe only in the last 2 minutes

 

[Krymsonman]

Maybe only in the last 2 minutes

Yeah, it may not really matter that much the rest of the game, but it might at crunch time. Tack on 15 yards instead of 5 to Ohio State, and they would have been kicking the FG instead of running a play. We don't know for sure if they would make it, but the clock wouldn't run out on them.

 

[CB4]

Yeah, it may not really matter that much the rest of the game, but it might at crunch time. Tack on 15 yards instead of 5 to Ohio State, and they would have been kicking the FG instead of running a play. We don't know for sure if they would make it, but the clock wouldn't run out on them.

I think this probably should be accessed only in the last two minutes of the game as an “unsportsmanlike conduct” penalty and 15 yards. Otherwise it should remain 5 yards.

One thing I’m tired of is the fake injury stuff. It has gotten so bad coaches don’t care if it looks fake. They know officials are powerless to stop it.

There needs to be some leeway given to review in cases where things look “fishy”. In the judgement of the officials (hey we stop the game for just about everything away, and it does stop for an injury ). If anything indicates the player was told to .”take a dive”, then 15 yard penalty and player is out the rest of the series.

 

[CB4]

You know, that makes perfect sense. Throw an extra guy out there to make sure you don't give up anything big. It's only a 5 yard penalty. That was 12 participating, not 1 running off the field. Make it a 15 yard penalty and that would stop it.

One other add on stuff like this. There such a thing as the integrity and “spirit” of the game. And crap like this (and faking injuries) clearly violates the spirit of competition. This is Gus Malzahn sandlot stuff like asking for a review for first down on a play when you have no timeouts to get your FG team on the field before time expires.

 

[day-day]

You know, that makes perfect sense. Throw an extra guy out there to make sure you don't give up anything big. It's only a 5 yard penalty. That was 12 participating, not 1 running off the field. Make it a 15 yard penalty and that would stop it.

I don't think one extra player makes sure the offense won't get a big play. It pretty much guarantees the clock will be stopped giving the offense time for another snap, even with a long completion and tackled inbounds. If the coach did this on purpose, I can't argue that it didn't work though.

I like this strategy, especially with no instant replay:

A similar tactic has been commonly associated with former longtime NFL coach Buddy Ryan's "Polish defense," who used the strategy while serving as defensive coordinator with the Houston Oilers in 1993. The now-defunct NFL franchise had allowed their opponents inside the five-yard line with 15 seconds left in the first half, and Ryan opted to send three extra linebackers onto the field for 14 total players, willing to take the short penalty to bleed the clock and ensure the endzone was protected — famously, the referees somehow missed this these extra players and Ryan's ploy went unpenalized.

WATCH: Did Oregon's defense intentionally take the field with 12 players in win over Ohio State? (247sports.com)


Illegal participation in the NFL is a 15-yard penalty.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

lsu is quietly creeping back up the polls. Brian Kelly might actually be a good coach. Having said that, I will remind anyone that has forgotten that he killed a guy.

 

[crimsonaudio]

After Lanning admitted to the penalty being intentional, the move hasn’t sat right with the NCAA, or many fans outside of Eugene. According to Ross Dellenger of Yahoo Sports, the NCAA is trying to figure out a way to ensure the tactic doesn’t become commonplace in college football.

“Oregon coaches exploited a loophole in the rulebook and it could result in in-season action from the NCAA,” Dellenger reported. “… Steve Shaw, the NCAA secretary rules editor, told Yahoo Sports on Tuesday that the NCAA Football Playing Rules Committee is actively ‘engaged’ in examining the play for possible action. The Big Ten officiating crew handled the play appropriately, Shaw said, but the rules committee is discussing a way to address the play.”

NCAA examining rule loophole Oregon used vs. Ohio State with intentional penalty

The NCAA is examining the loophole exploited by the Oregon Ducks at the end of their victory over the Ohio State Buckeyes.

www.on3.com

 

[MikeInBama]

NCAA examining rule loophole Oregon used vs. Ohio State with intentional penalty

The NCAA is examining the loophole exploited by the Oregon Ducks at the end of their victory over the Ohio State Buckeyes.

www.on3.com

*cough* lineman down field circa 2013 *cough*

 

[day-day]

NCAA examining rule loophole Oregon used vs. Ohio State with intentional penalty

The NCAA is examining the loophole exploited by the Oregon Ducks at the end of their victory over the Ohio State Buckeyes.

www.on3.com

NCAA issues new interpretation to close the Dan Lanning Loophole (msn.com)

New interpretation for the rest of this season states that after the two-minute timeout in either half, if a 12th defensive player participates, the officials will penalize the defense and the offense has the option to reset the clock to the original time of the snap with the clock starting on the next snap. If the player was attempting to exit and did not influence the play, the current rule applies (penalty but time runs off the clock).

 

[crimsonaudio]

NCAA issues new interpretation to close the Dan Lanning Loophole (msn.com)

New interpretation for the rest of this season states that after the two-minute timeout in either half, if a 12th defensive player participates, the officials will penalize the defense and the offense has the option to reset the clock to the original time of the snap with the clock starting on the next snap. If the player was attempting to exit and did not influence the play, the current rule applies (penalty but time runs off the clock).

Now if they'd just address Ole Miss's terrible sudden short-term injury problem...