Eye Opening Strength of Schedule Stat

[deltatider]

Josh Pate had a segment on his show tonight about flaws with the playoff committee’s most recent rankings. He focused on the fact that strength of schedule doesn’t get enough consideration from the committee’s rankings, and then he put up the strength of schedule for each of the teams the committee put in the top 12 this week and it really caught my attention. According to his stats, Bama’s SOS is #3 in the country, while Georgia’s SOS is #4. If you average the SOS for the rest of the teams currently in the top 12, the average SOS for the other 10 teams comes out to an average of 47. That is a huge discrepancy. Below is the SOS rankings for the other 10 teams:

Oregon: 32
Ohio State: 60
Texas: 40
PSU: 42
Indiana: 68
BYU: 36
Tennessee: 47
ND: 64
Miami: 59
Ole Miss: 29

This only reinforces my opinion that Bama would likely beat 5 of the teams ranked ahead of us by double digits.
That said, the most frustrating part to me is the SOS of the Big 10 teams that are currently sitting in the top 5.

 

[Ledsteplin]

I know Miami does not have one top 25 team on their schedule. And still lost one.

 

[bamaslammer]

Unfortunately the 12 team playoff has become the DEI program of college football. (Didn't Earn It). But it's just more cannon fodder for us to trample on the way to another Natty

 

[MikeInBama]

With top 4 teams there was at least one blow out if not two. This isn't basketball, depth matters. Some teams don't belong on the same field. The middle 6 of the SEC could beat all but the top 1-2 teams of every other conference.

 

[colbysullivan]

In other news: water…wet

The SEC has been a meatgrinder for decades, but facts aren’t going to change the narrative.

 

[dayhiker]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1857142045372239968

 

[Power Eye]

Josh Pate had a segment on his show tonight about flaws with the playoff committee’s most recent rankings. He focused on the fact that strength of schedule doesn’t get enough consideration from the committee’s rankings, and then he put up the strength of schedule for each of the teams the committee put in the top 12 this week and it really caught my attention. According to his stats, Bama’s SOS is #3 in the country, while Georgia’s SOS is #4. If you average the SOS for the rest of the teams currently in the top 12, the average SOS for the other 10 teams comes out to an average of 47. That is a huge discrepancy. Below is the SOS rankings for the other 10 teams:

Oregon: 32
Ohio State: 60
Texas: 40
PSU: 42
Indiana: 68
BYU: 36
Tennessee: 47
ND: 64
Miami: 59
Ole Miss: 29

This only reinforces my opinion that Bama would likely beat 5 of the teams ranked ahead of us by double digits.
That said, the most frustrating part to me is the SOS of the Big 10 teams that are currently sitting in the top 5.

I don't know how those SOS rankings were determined, but ESPN's are quite different. I think the SOS rankings you are using are based on the full schedule and not just what the teams have played so far, which is what ESPN's rankings are. Currently, the SEC has 9 of the top 11 positions in the ESPN rankings, and Texas is by far the worst at 56. Indiana is at 100 and is the worst SOS of all power 5 teams.

 

[RollTide_HTTR]

ESPN has a Strength of Record stat that shows the following...

1. Oregon
2. BYU
3. UGA
4. Ohio State
5. Penn State
6. Inidana
7. Miami
8. Alabama
9. Tennessee
10. Texas
11. Texas A&M
12. Ole Miss
13. Notre Dame
14. SMU
15. LSU

I have no idea how this is calculated though. I think it is clear Texas is ranked too high right now though.

 

[DawgAlum2054]

Penn State's BEST WIN is over a current 6-3 Illinois team. All of their other wins are 5-4 or worse.

 

[BamaBoySince89]

Yet we (SEC) gets blasted for playing a cupcake in the middle of November. I don’t care for it but playing 5 ranked teams who were all from the same conference kinda makes it justifiable. Indiana and Penn St. first (and only) ranked opponent is Ohio St and you wonder why they have the records they do. Same for Miami.

IMO the SEC should get 4 bids, maybe 5. This is an opportunity for the committee to make a statement but of course they want “fairness” across the board.

 

[DawgAlum2054]

looking at the AP top 25

Why would Indiana not be ranked above Penn State? Sure, Indiana has not beat anyone per say, but neither has Penn State


I get that Missouri has zero quality wins, but neither does Colorado that is ranked 6 places higher. Colorado and Kansas State have the same record, but Kansas State is ranked behind Colorado even though they beat them.

 

[DawgAlum2054]

Yet we (SEC) gets blasted for playing a cupcake in the middle of November. I don’t care for it but playing 5 ranked teams who were all from the same conference kinda makes it justifiable. Indiana and Penn St. first (and only) ranked opponent is Ohio St and you wonder why they have the records they do. Same for Miami.

IMO the SEC should get 4 bids. This is an opportunity for the committee to make a statement but of course they want “fairness” across the board.

The only way to somewhat fix it is more out of conference play. But, Penn State and Ohio State will not play a quality SEC team in the regular season... they know better

 

[BamaBoySince89]

The only way to somewhat fix it is more out of conference play. But, Penn State and Ohio State will not play a quality SEC team in the regular season... they know better

Ohio St would be more apt to do so but seeing anybody else (ie Penn St, Michigan) come south, we would be waiting. Michigan learned that in 2012 when they came to Jerry World and got spanked by Bama

 

[DawgAlum2054]

Ohio St would be more apt to do so but seeing anybody else (ie Penn St, Michigan) come south, we would be waiting. Michigan learned that in 2012 when they came to Jerry World and got spanked by Bama

ohio state has scheduled matchups with georgia twice and cancelled both times

One was 2020/2021

They agreed to a 2030 and 2031 home and home, we will see what happens

 

[teamplayer]

Josh Pate had a segment on his show tonight about flaws with the playoff committee’s most recent rankings. He focused on the fact that strength of schedule doesn’t get enough consideration from the committee’s rankings, and then he put up the strength of schedule for each of the teams the committee put in the top 12 this week and it really caught my attention. According to his stats, Bama’s SOS is #3 in the country, while Georgia’s SOS is #4. If you average the SOS for the rest of the teams currently in the top 12, the average SOS for the other 10 teams comes out to an average of 47. That is a huge discrepancy. Below is the SOS rankings for the other 10 teams:

Oregon: 32
Ohio State: 60
Texas: 40
PSU: 42
Indiana: 68
BYU: 36
Tennessee: 47
ND: 64
Miami: 59
Ole Miss: 29

This only reinforces my opinion that Bama would likely beat 5 of the teams ranked ahead of us by double digits.
That said, the most frustrating part to me is the SOS of the Big 10 teams that are currently sitting in the top 5.

Yet, there are still people who want the SEC to play nine conference games along with our new mandate to play a game against another power four conference. I have no problem with making the schedules more challenging as long as that is taken into consideration when choosing teams for a playoff. If they are not going to do that, we definitely need to keep an eight game SEC schedule and drop the mandate to play other power conferences. Their schedules are absolute jokes, yet they will cruise into the playoffs without all of the bumps and bruises of playing an SEC schedule. It's a joke.

 

[deltatider]

I don't know how those SOS rankings were determined, but ESPN's are quite different. I think the SOS rankings you are using are based on the full schedule and not just what the teams have played so far, which is what ESPN's rankings are. Currently, the SEC has 9 of the top 11 positions in the ESPN rankings, and Texas is by far the worst at 56. Indiana is at 100 and is the worst SOS of all power 5 teams.

I’m not sure where he pulled his numbers from. He has his own analytically based model that he references a lot so he may have used numbers from that.

 

[Ledsteplin]

ohio state has scheduled matchups with georgia twice and cancelled both times

One was 2020/2021

They agreed to a 2030 and 2031 home and home, we will see what happens

By 2030, Vandy will be the top team in the SEC.

 

[Ledsteplin]

Yep

Penn State's BEST WIN is over a current 6-3 Illinois team. All of their other wins are 5-4 or worse.

Yep.

 

[CrimsonRuss]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1857142045372239968

That speaks VOLUMES!

 

[some_al_fan]

By 2030, Vandy will be the top team in the SEC.

It could be if the NCAA allows Pavia to play until he is 50 years old.