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Crimson Speed

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I don't want to hijack this thread, but this has been covered TOO MANY times and it has become a societal issue too. Just because you disagree or disapprove of someone doesn't equal "hate."

To keep this "topic" on the football board I'll just say there are plenty of guys on this board who have repeatedly listed the reasons why JM has cost us big games (and "little" ones...which there is no such thing until they keep you out of the playoffs).

He's a nice, smart, well spoken young man who simply struggles to do basic QB things that translate into his team winning consistently. Yeah, when you get "good Milroe" we might beat anybody. When you get bad Milroe we can't beat an OU team that was lifeless all year long!

But the point is it's not about hate it is about recognizing he's had perpetual weaknesses that kept us from being a great football team two years in a row now. Yeah, we won the SEC last year and he contributed but not nearly as much as the lifeless OL we had last year (and this year) who seemed to wake up for one game and put it together.

He can run like a deer, but a QB's main job is to understand the offense (we didn't run CKD's offense this year - see comment about Penix below) and to distribute the football to the skill players all over the field. And those 20 rushing TDs? How many of those came at the expense of our running backs? There's a reason many people say JM is a running back rather than a QB. Stats seem to back that up.

We've had two years of tape on JM and he CAN NOT do basic QB things at a high level. Many problems from fundamentals (footwork/throwing mechanics), field vision, slow trigger/decision making, failure to go thru professions, inaccuracy, touch, and others I'm sure I'm missing have been discussed ad nauseam.

It's not hate. It's just that he struggles to do what 99.9% of the population would struggle to do which doesn't allows them to be a high level QB. But most of us don't call ourselves QBs because we can't do those things.

I wish JM nothing but the best. I hope he can follow Jalen Hurt's path to overcome some of these weaknesses and play in the NFL. NFL execs pay guys with JM's weakness millions of dollars every year in the draft hoping to find a diamond in the rough.

But for us and CKD, it's time to have a QB in CKD's system that can run it the way Coach envisions it. Last year Penix threw for almost 5000 yards. Jalen barely threw for half of that.
I agree with everything you said. He is a fine young man and I believe he loves the Tide. But, those attributes do not make him a great QB. I hope he makes it big in the NFL, but he is not the right fit for us.
 

JustNeedMe81

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I said this in other thread: I was talking to someone today and how I said that going forward, I expect Alabama to be more selective about who they are after.. and I wouldnt' be shocked if they go after one of the team's that's in playoff.... My gut feelings: Ohio State and Georgia.
 

Evil Crimson Dragon

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IIRC, CKD wants to have a running attack, but we've got to get the right QB in place to run his preferred system.

I'm firmly in the camp in the modern era of football that "You have to pass to set up the run."

When we get the passing game going that CKD envisions, it'll open up running opportunities that our running back can exploit.
Also RB turns into a WR out of the backfield and get into space
 
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JustNeedMe81

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Wood is the Alabama DL that got away?

BTW, Riley Leonard is the Alabama kid that got away too.

I know it happens all the time, but it stinks when they go other places and thrive.

Yeah, I'm still bummed about Philip Rivers too! :)
I don't think Riley Leonard was someone that got away.. Kid was 4 star, but only had 10 offers.. from vandy, Tulane, Ole miss, Sycrause, etc. Signed with Duke, Transferred to ND. So, IMO, he made best of his opportunities.
 

JustNeedMe81

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I think the Peter Woods stuff is just folks taking his tweet out of context. I don't think he's leaving Clemson
I don't think anyone is taking it out of context. All what we're saying is.. just keep an eye on him, that's it. I do know that there has been "tampering" going on with him. Teams are trying to get him to enter portal. Whether he does it or not, it's up to him.

This is my opinion: He has 1 more year to go before going into NFL. What does he need to do to boost his NFL draft status? IMO, If he cares about that... Then he's better off at Clemson.

Does he want to win game, go deeper in playoff? Then he is better off going into portal.
If he wants more NIL money, then enter the portal. Everything is subjective depending on how he looks at it.

Let me tell you this: Bama are talking to players that are not in portal. Just because we don't hear anything doesn't mean anything isnt' going on behind the scene. I mean look at the Horton Kid that just commited to us.
 

TiderJack

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I don't think Riley Leonard was someone that got away.. Kid was 4 star, but only had 10 offers.. from vandy, Tulane, Ole miss, Sycrause, etc. Signed with Duke, Transferred to ND. So, IMO, he made best of his opportunities.
Agreed. Would be holding a clipboard at Bama and he made the right decision.
 
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JustNeedMe81

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I don't think anyone is taking it out of context. All what we're saying is.. just keep an eye on him, that's it. I do know that there has been "tampering" going on with him. Teams are trying to get him to enter portal. Whether he does it or not, it's up to him.

This is my opinion: He has 1 more year to go before going into NFL. What does he need to do to boost his NFL draft status? IMO, If he cares about that... Then he's better off at Clemson.

Does he want to win game, go deeper in playoff? Then he is better off going into portal.
If he wants more NIL money, then enter the portal. Everything is subjective depending on how he looks at it.

Let me tell you this: Bama are talking to players that are not in portal. Just because we don't hear anything doesn't mean anything isnt' going on behind the scene. I mean look at the Horton Kid that just commited to us.
Again .. I'm just saying... 👀👀👀
 

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