Immigration and Customs Enforcement (I.C.E.) (part II)

The article by the Guardian seems to contridict the ICE explanation. The father did not flee, he and the child were detained at the same time. I'll believe the Guardian explanation before ICE until proven different. After the lies about the woman shot in the head at point blank range, all of which is documented in videos, it would be ridiculous to do otherwise.
the dhs news release/explanation is a lie
 
Gem of the day: So, how many here are on board with men with guns, wearing masks, with the power to kick down doors without a warrant.

We can just turn the 4th Amendment into toilet paper.

I know. I know. Blah blah blah. Biden. And whatever the Administration says because, ICE is law enforcement and they don't play by any rules.

 
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Gem of the day: So, how many here are on board with men with guns, wearing masks, with the power to kick down doors without a warrant.

We can just turn the 4th Amendment into toilet paper.

I know. I know. Blah blah blah. Biden.

well, i’m waiting to see what the administration says before making any judgment. /s
 
Gem of the day: So, how many here are on board with men with guns, wearing masks, with the power to kick down doors without a warrant.

We can just turn the 4th Amendment into toilet paper.

I know. I know. Blah blah blah. Biden. And whatever the Administration says because, ICE is law enforcement and they don't play by any rules.

Yeah, this is unquestionably in violation of 4A, imo.
 
Gem of the day: So, how many here are on board with men with guns, wearing masks, with the power to kick down doors without a warrant.

We can just turn the 4th Amendment into toilet paper.

I know. I know. Blah blah blah. Biden. And whatever the Administration says because, ICE is law enforcement and they don't play by any rules.

The big problem Dems and Reps constantly overlook is how these things can be turned against them when the opposition again regains power. I swear, these nimrods can’t see further than two inches in front of their noses.
 
The big problem Dems and Reps constantly overlook is how these things can be turned against them when the opposition again regains power. I swear, these nimrods can’t see further than two inches in front of their noses.

I can't conceive of anyone (either red or blue) seeing this as acceptable.

I was just as disgusted at Clinton during the Elian Gonzalez action. The thought of terrorizing some family with an assault team. Ruby Ridge. And while I thought the Branch Davidians were awful people, there is good evidence that the Feds might have started that fire.
 
The article by the Guardian seems to contridict the ICE explanation. The father did not flee, he and the child were detained at the same time. I'll believe the Guardian explanation before ICE until proven different. After the lies about the woman shot in the head at point blank range, all of which is documented in videos, it would be ridiculous to do otherwise.
Not to mention that the family is not even here illegally. They are seeking asylum and have done everything correctly so far, and are living here legally, waiting for the case to be heard. ICE doesn't care and just saw another "brown" family to terrorize. According to their lawyer, he has only had indirect contact with his client, no direct contact, which is a violation of the Constitution. Just more illegal crap by ICE.

Gem of the day: So, how many here are on board with men with guns, wearing masks, with the power to kick down doors without a warrant.

We can just turn the 4th Amendment into toilet paper.

I know. I know. Blah blah blah. Biden. And whatever the Administration says because, ICE is law enforcement and they don't play by any rules.

It will not be long until some citizens start asserting their 2nd amendment right against these thugs kicking in their doors. I mean, fighting a corrupt government is exactly what the 2nd is for, right? At least that is what everyone around here is always telling me as the reason why we can't have stricter gun laws, "got to be able to protect ourselves from the gubberment."
 
I can't conceive of anyone (either red or blue) seeing this as acceptable.

I was just as disgusted at Clinton during the Elian Gonzalez action. The thought of terrorizing some family with an assault team. Ruby Ridge. And while I thought the Branch Davidians were awful people, there is good evidence that the Feds might have started that fire.
You say you can't see either side seeing this as acceptable and then immediately list multiple examples of federal abuse of power which doesn't really strengthen your argument. The first and second amendments are constantly under attack and have been for years, but suddenly these people are gonna draw a line at the fourth? No, there is no rational argument to be made for this.

For once, we have an issue here that isn't being painted as a left/right issue (yet) but lost in the confusion is the fact that it is an us vs. them issue. Slab, the people you vote for (and against) don't give a damn if you live or die. Why in the hell would they care about your constitutional rights? It matters little what we think about this blatant disregard of the fourth amendment; we have no power or influence. Even your vote's impact has been minimized over the years.

So yeah, we may not accept this sort of behavior, but that ultimately means nothing. The real question is: Is there anyone left in D.C. who won't accept this from either side? My guess, only a handful and their careers are almost certainly in jeopardy.
 
Not to mention that the family is not even here illegally. They are seeking asylum and have done everything correctly so far, and are living here legally, waiting for the case to be heard. ICE doesn't care and just saw another "brown" family to terrorize. According to their lawyer, he has only had indirect contact with his client, no direct contact, which is a violation of the Constitution. Just more illegal crap by ICE.


It will not be long until some citizens start asserting their 2nd amendment right against these thugs kicking in their doors. I mean, fighting a corrupt government is exactly what the 2nd is for, right? At least that is what everyone around here is always telling me as the reason why we can't have stricter gun laws, "got to be able to protect ourselves from the gubberment."

I'm old enough to remember when the Black Panthers decided enough was enough, and started arming themselves. And the nervous clucking from the same people who claimed that guns were protection against government overreach.

What if the immigrant populations in this country start taking up arms against a tyrannical government, an start defending themselves? Isn't this the reason we always hear about the 2nd amendment...that it keeps government honest?
 
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PORTLAND, Maine (WMTW) - A sheriff in Maine had harsh words about U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement in the city of Portland.

Cellphone video shows ICE agents detain a corrections officer recruit in the middle of the street.

Cumberland County Sheriff Kevin Joyce confirmed it was one of his corrections recruits who was detained by ICE in Portland’s Bayside neighborhood on Wednesday evening.

“They all took off leaving his car with the windows down, the lights on, unsecured and unoccupied,” Joyce said. “They left it right on the side of the street. Folks, that’s bush league policing.”
 
Gem of the day: So, how many here are on board with men with guns, wearing masks, with the power to kick down doors without a warrant.

We can just turn the 4th Amendment into toilet paper.

I know. I know. Blah blah blah. Biden. And whatever the Administration says because, ICE is law enforcement and they don't play by any rules.

It is intresting as well for me to understand ICE actions are in states that have voted Democratic, Minnesota, Maine, California, Oregon. While there are ICE sightings in Alabama, Georgia, Florida, Texas that undoubtly more immigrants in these states in construction and agriculture. I have heard no news of doors kicked in and young tender aged children being essentially arrested and taken away.

I don't understand how anyone can justify such disparate treatment of many citizens through clearly illegal and unconstitutional actions.

I do understand that there are many Alabamians that believe this is all well and good. That is until they undergo similar treatment.
 
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It is intresting as well for me to understand ICE actions are in states that have voted Democratic, Minnesota, Maine, California, Oregon. While there are ICE sightings in Alabama, Georgia, Florida, Texas that undoubtly more immigrants in these states in construction and agriculture. I have heard no news of doors kicked in and young tender aged children being essentially arrested and taken away.
States that cooperate with ICE vs those that do not.
 
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A judge has unsealed the memo ordering the detention & deportation of Rümeysa Öztürk. It confirms the sole evidence against her was that she co-wrote an op-ed the government disliked.

Here she is being arrested by men in plainclothes. Over an op-ed.




This is Trump's America.
woke cancel culture run amok. wait, let me come in again
 
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