New healthcare thread (part II)

And some Open Evidence on ye ole statins and when to use them...

No, statins have never been approved for universal use in all adults over age 50. Statin recommendations have always been based on cardiovascular risk factors and calculated risk, not age alone.

Current US Preventive Services Task Force (USPSTF) guidelines recommend statins for primary prevention in adults aged 40 to 75 years who meet all of the following criteria: (1) presence of at least one cardiovascular disease (CVD) risk factor (dyslipidemia, diabetes, hypertension, or smoking), and (2) a calculated 10-year CVD event risk of ≥10% (B recommendation) or 7.5% to <10% (C recommendation, selective offering). [1] The USPSTF states there is insufficient evidence to recommend initiating statins in adults 76 years or older for primary prevention. [1]

The 2013 ACC/AHA guidelines similarly identified four major statin benefit groups based on clinical trial evidence, but none recommended universal treatment based solely on age. [2] The 2019 ACC/AHA guidelines emphasized risk-based approaches using the Pooled Cohort Equations to estimate 10-year atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease (ASCVD) risk, with treatment decisions guided by risk thresholds (≥7.5% to <20% for intermediate risk, ≥20% for high risk) rather than age cutoffs. [3]

The most recent 2026 ACC/AHA dyslipidemia guidelines continue to emphasize individualized decision-making for older adults, noting that time-to-benefit from statins is approximately 2.5 years in adults aged 50-75 years. [4-5] For adults over 75, the guidelines acknowledge limited trial data and recommend shared decision-making that balances potential benefits against risks of polypharmacy, multimorbidity, and patient preferences. [4-5]
 
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With alpha gal (mammal allergy), beef tallow is out anyway. Recently I was taken off Lipitor, during cancer treatment, although I'd been on it since it came out. My total count zoomed up from the 130s to 267, mostly LDL. (My HDL count has always been anywhere from the high 50s and up)I still developed coronary artery disease...
 
With alpha gal (mammal allergy), beef tallow is out anyway. Recently I was taken off Lipitor, during cancer treatment, although I'd been on it since it came out. My total count zoomed up from the 130s to 267, mostly LDL. (My HDL count has always been anywhere from the high 50s and up)I still developed coronary artery disease...

Statins probably just prolong the inevitable is the way I view it. But maybe that time is past your last day and you don't have to worry about getting stents and all that... Or dying prematurely!
 
Statins probably just prolong the inevitable is the way I view it. But maybe that time is past your last day and you don't have to worry about getting stents and all that... Or dying prematurely!
The PETs they've been doing also reveal the coronary arteries. It's on my list of questions to ask if they show the degree of occlusion...
 
The PETs they've been doing also reveal the coronary arteries. It's on my list of questions to ask if they show the degree of occlusion...

They don't. You can do a contrasted CT to show the arteries and their patency. PET would just show calcification which correlates to risk of CAD, but they don't quantify like a cardiac calcium CT study. Data is preliminary, but indicates it is going to be a pretty decent noninvasive measure of risk.
 
They don't. You can do a contrasted CT to show the arteries and their patency. PET would just show calcification which correlates to risk of CAD, but they don't quantify like a cardiac calcium CT study. Data is preliminary, but indicates it is going to be a pretty decent noninvasive measure of risk.
Yeah, I know it's no substitute for a cath. Last year, they just ran a stress test on me...
 

Weeks after Health and Human Services Secretary Robert Kennedy Jr. touted vitamin A as an effective treatment for measles amid the largest outbreak of disease in decades, hospitalized patients in West Texas are being treated for signs of vitamin A toxicity.

Several patients at Covenant Children’s Hospital in Lubbock have been found to have abnormal liver function, CNN reported, which can occur when a person takes excessive doses of vitamin A. Those being treated include “a handful of unvaccinated children who were given so much vitamin A that they had signs of liver damage,” the New York Times reported.
 
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Yes, scientists and experts absolutely have been wrong about things. Nobody should pretend otherwise.

However, the determination that they were wrong was done NOT by a pompous know it all sitting on the commode, scrolling their phone and posting links while disingenuously asserting they were “just asking questions”, those outcomes were determined by, oh yes, scientists and doctors who did not automatically accept that the status quo was correct or we’re testing it to be reassured.

I wonder if I should point out that the same jackasses that spout anti-vaccination stuff STILL go to doctors and expect to be treated.

And I’m sorry, but I don’t recall RFK2 studying any of this stuff.
 
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I mean, Coach Bryant deprived his football players of water and…..guess what we know now about that?

It doesn’t alter his greatness as a coach, it just means he was wrong about something. But it should also be noted that he’s very fortunate that he didn’t have a Greg Pratt situation or something like that happened under his watch.
 
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Yes, scientists and experts absolutely have been wrong about things. Nobody should pretend otherwise.

However, the determination that they were wrong was done NOT by a pompous know it all sitting on the commode, scrolling their phone and posting links while disingenuously asserting they were “just asking questions”, those outcomes were determined by, oh yes, scientists and doctors who did not automatically accept that the status quo was correct or we’re testing it to be reassured.

I wonder if I should point out that the same jackasses that spout anti-vaccination stuff STILL go to doctors and expect to be treated.

And I’m sorry, but I don’t recall RFK2 studying any of this stuff.
he was a junkie, so i imagine he was quite handy with a syringe
 

Weeks after Health and Human Services Secretary Robert Kennedy Jr. touted vitamin A as an effective treatment for measles amid the largest outbreak of disease in decades, hospitalized patients in West Texas are being treated for signs of vitamin A toxicity.

Several patients at Covenant Children’s Hospital in Lubbock have been found to have abnormal liver function, CNN reported, which can occur when a person takes excessive doses of vitamin A. Those being treated include “a handful of unvaccinated children who were given so much vitamin A that they had signs of liver damage,” the New York Times reported.

Vitamin A is highly toxic when overdosed...

While it is true that vitamin A deficiency worsens the prognosis in measles, it is rare in the US, and giving vitamin A outside of a dose to correct the deficiency doesn't help someone with normal levels.

It doesn't take much to correct the levels. They do this routinely in Africa where the diets are often supoptimal.
 

Weeks after Health and Human Services Secretary Robert Kennedy Jr. touted vitamin A as an effective treatment for measles amid the largest outbreak of disease in decades, hospitalized patients in West Texas are being treated for signs of vitamin A toxicity.

Several patients at Covenant Children’s Hospital in Lubbock have been found to have abnormal liver function, CNN reported, which can occur when a person takes excessive doses of vitamin A. Those being treated include “a handful of unvaccinated children who were given so much vitamin A that they had signs of liver damage,” the New York Times reported.
If only we had a proven vaccine for measles…
 
Vitamin A is highly toxic when overdosed...

While it is true that vitamin A deficiency worsens the prognosis in measles, it is rare in the US, and giving vitamin A outside of a dose to correct the deficiency doesn't help someone with normal levels.

It doesn't take much to correct the levels. They do this routinely in Africa where the diets are often supoptimal.
I’ve said this several times on other threads but the reason I only discuss politics and religion here is that we have an incredibly wide net of relative experts here that few other places have. Thanks for continually sharing your expertise.
 
I’ve said this several times on other threads but the reason I only discuss politics and religion here is that we have an incredibly wide net of relative experts here that few other places have. Thanks for continually sharing your expertise.

I can't claim expertise outside of oncology, but I will always give a data driven accounting, and note where we just don't know the answer.
 
For @arthurdawg -

A 6 year old received a standing ovation at school after beating leukemia.


Fortunately childhood leukemias are one of the major success stories! Survival for ALL in kids 0-14 is >90% these days. Before modern therapy, it was fatal in weeks.

One of the early attempts to treat it with a chemotherapy in the late 1940s led to Sydney Farber being widely criticized for offering "false hope" to the parents of pediatric leukemia patients, because it was known that we could never hope to cure it. Farber continued to help make major advances in kid's cancer through the 1970s and is forever immortalized in the name of the Dana Farber Cancer Center at Mass General.

That is pretty cool. Even in my 25 years in the field in adult cancer we are seeing slow but steady progress. I had a lady in today that was one of the first lung cancer patients I treated with the new immunotherapy drugs. When I started, chemotherapy added a few months and everyone died. There were no cures. She is now >10 years out from her lung cancer and most likely cured from stage 4 disease. She is witty and accuses me of saving her from her lung cancer so that we could also successfully treat her follicular lymphoma and second breast cancer! But doing well currently in her 80s.
 
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