Allen coming back is huge. Hell be playing Point guard and will handle the duties most of the time.
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Amari Allen reveals decision about his future with Alabama basketball
Amari Allen will return to Alabama after withdrawing from the NBA draft, bolstering the Crimson Tide's roster for 2026.www.al.com
Now we need some good news out of the Tuscaloosa County Courthouse.
Allen coming back is huge. Hell be playing Point guard and will handle the duties most of the time.
Hell be fine. When he was on floor last year he was Point Forward as a secondary option and he excelled in that role . So I think he'll have majority of the time have ball on his hand but should be just fine.It will be interesting to see how much he can handle.
Every year the team will always be unknown because of new additions to the team. That's actually a good thing when it comes to Nat's offense.It’s good news. At this point not sure if this roster going into the season is better than last year. Can Allen be better than Philon was? fielder might be an upgrade. But this team is unknown like last year especially being more reliant on freshman. Not to mention CNOs appears to be adjusting his system a little. Will be fun and interesting to watch and don’t think making the tourney is ever in question just whether being competitive as an NC team or not.
Objectively I don’t think you can say on paper the team is better. The new bigs aren’t some rebounding monsters and height isn’t an automatic improvement. Losing high caliber guards is big. Don’t know if Allen can make a jump like Philon did adding in switching positions. Don’t know if chemistry will be there. Who’s going to be the primary scorer much less second or third? lol Holloway probably will be first but idk.Every year the team will always be unknown because of new additions to the team. That's actually a good thing when it comes to Nat's offense.
Nat is always tweaking his offense every year. He's always finding different ways to continue to modernize his offense and staying ahead of the curve.
On the paper the roster is better than last year because we've added height and rebounding purpose. Chemistry will be there. Only question is who's gonna be secondary scoring and third option. Who's gonna come off bench and provide scoring?
It feels like you're basing everything by 2010 standards, completely ignoring how Alabama basketball operates and you are mislabeling "proven" in many ways especially in NIL world.Objectively I don’t think you can say on paper the team is better. The new bigs aren’t some rebounding monsters and height isn’t an automatic improvement. Losing high caliber guards is big. Don’t know if Allen can make a jump like Philon did adding in switching positions. Don’t know if chemistry will be there. Who’s going to be the primary scorer much less second or third? lol Holloway probably will be first but idk.
There’s a difference of every team will be unknown but have proven players I.e Arizona, Duke, UConn, uf and teams like Bama last year and this as in unknown if players can play at the level needed like they have potential but unknown/unproven. Proven players that sustained year is what just Holloway? At this point and on paper different teams but just as unknown as last year and unless guys blow up don’t have championship team. Obviously if guys make a big jump that changes quickly.
Take a softer approach. Yall can discuss things without making it personal. If yall want to slug it out, do so on private messaging.It feels like you're basing everything by 2010 standards, completely ignoring how Alabama basketball operates and you are mislabeling "proven" in many ways especially in NIL world.
Let me go ahead and highlight few things.
Rebounding and Height
Your argument on how Height isn't automatically improvement and the people Alabama brought in aren't rebounding monster isn't right.
You completely ignored the fact Alabama brought in Cliff Omoruyi from Rutgers. He was top 3 in Rebounding and blocks last year playing in Big Ten. That's huge! He also has elite defense interior defense. You keep forgetting that Alabama does not need back to basket player. He just need to be a mobile player that can get up the court on both ends and do his part. Oats has Fielder, Garrison, Flemings and Onyejiaka. Oats has length to handle that. To say this frontcourt lacks size or glass cleaners is just factually incorrect.
High caliber guards
You again ignored the fact we've lost high production players to NBA draft each year and we keep having different players emerging as the man each year. Look at Oats track records with players returning to school after declaring NBA draft and it has worked out well. Philon came back and did same thing that Allen will be doing same this fall. Allen withdrew from the draft specifically to come back, run the point, and be the head of the snake for a top team in the country. We lost 4 players and Oats brought in experienced players. So I'm not sure if you wanted to call this team young and unproven team with question marks at guards when Oats literally reloads with elite analytical fits every single summer. The system itself manufactures guard production.
The Flawed Duke/UConn Comparison
I don't like the Duke UCONN comparison.
Duke relies on 1 and done players who have never played a minute of college hoops. UCONN depends on transfer portal heavily every single summer to replace their lottery picks. Every elite team in the country has unknown players that might break out whether this year or next. Bama isn't an unknown gamble, it is a finely tuned machine that plugs veteran talent and explosive sophomores into the fastest system in America. On paper, this team is deeper and more balanced than last year.
I’m not basing this on 2010 standards at all — NIL actually makes it easier to identify proven players by what they’ve already produced at this level. By ‘proven’ I mean guys who’ve consistently performed (not just flashed potential).”It feels like you're basing everything by 2010 standards, completely ignoring how Alabama basketball operates and you are mislabeling "proven" in many ways especially in NIL world.
Let me go ahead and highlight few things.
Rebounding and Height
Your argument on how Height isn't automatically improvement and the people Alabama brought in aren't rebounding monster isn't right.
You completely ignored the fact Alabama brought in Cliff Omoruyi from Rutgers. He was top 3 in Rebounding and blocks last year playing in Big Ten. That's huge! He also has elite defense interior defense. You keep forgetting that Alabama does not need back to basket player. He just need to be a mobile player that can get up the court on both ends and do his part. Oats has Fielder, Garrison, Flemings and Onyejiaka. Oats has length to handle that. To say this frontcourt lacks size or glass cleaners is just factually incorrect.
High caliber guards
You again ignored the fact we've lost high production players to NBA draft each year and we keep having different players emerging as the man each year. Look at Oats track records with players returning to school after declaring NBA draft and it has worked out well. Philon came back and did same thing that Allen will be doing same this fall. Allen withdrew from the draft specifically to come back, run the point, and be the head of the snake for a top team in the country. We lost 4 players and Oats brought in experienced players. So I'm not sure if you wanted to call this team young and unproven team with question marks at guards when Oats literally reloads with elite analytical fits every single summer. The system itself manufactures guard production.
The Flawed Duke/UConn Comparison
I don't like the Duke UCONN comparison.
Duke relies on 1 and done players who have never played a minute of college hoops. UCONN depends on transfer portal heavily every single summer to replace their lottery picks. Every elite team in the country has unknown players that might break out whether this year or next. Bama isn't an unknown gamble, it is a finely tuned machine that plugs veteran talent and explosive sophomores into the fastest system in America. On paper, this team is deeper and more balanced than last year.
??? We were actually having a discussion... I didn't see anything wrong with I was saying. Maybe it was little aggressive but other than that, I just saw us having a conversation about the roster. That's allTake a softer approach. Yall can discuss things without making it personal. If yall want to slug it out, do so on private messaging.
I can kinda see where you coming from with your perspective now that you saying you're based it on championship while I'm basing this on overall success of regular season and making the tournament itself. There can be two difference in how we view the roster and the potential.I’m not basing this on 2010 standards at all — NIL actually makes it easier to identify proven players by what they’ve already produced at this level. By ‘proven’ I mean guys who’ve consistently performed (not just flashed potential).”
“On the frontcourt: Height and size can help, especially for what Oats wants (mobile, run-and-roll guys), but it’s not automatic improvement without the production to match. Cliff Omoruyi was a great get. The other additions (Fielder, Garrison, Davis-Fleming, Onyejiaka) bring length and potential, but none are walking in as dominant glass-cleaners yet. I never said we lack size.
Guards: Yeah, Oats reloads every year and the system creates production, but losing high-caliber guard talent isn’t nothing. Allen returning is good for continuity, but expecting him to make a Philon-like jump (especially after his production dropped off late) is still an unknown as a sophomore running point full-time. We’ve replaced some with bigs who have effort/consistency questions in the past. Far less proven guard depth right now.
Overall, this team has more questions than some of those other programs early on. Duke/UConn/etc. often land higher-upside lottery talent or proven transfers that look stronger on paper. Bama’s going bigger this year, which could mean slower pace and more system tweaks — less guard-driven attack in a tourney where guards still win games, even in positionless ball. More balanced and deeper in the frontcourt? Sure in spots. But shallow at guard and reliant on unproven jumps again. It’s as unknown as last year, just in different ways. We’ll see it play out — not saying it’s bad, just not clearly better on paper until the guys perform. This is being picky but it’s talking about NC level not just sweet 16. I guess the biggest question is will the defense improve enough to cover less offense? Probably but who knows.
Still excited
Again, take a softer approach because it was aggressive.??? We were actually having a discussion... I didn't see anything wrong with I was saying. Maybe it was little aggressive but other than that, I just saw us having a conversation about the roster. That's all
I see no reason why we can't be a Final Four team if Holloway returns (I'd be surprised if he doesn't),and if a few bounces go our way. If we make it that far, then I think this team is more equipped to succeed there than teams in recent seasons. I also don't see this as being a less potent offensive team. There isn't as much proven scoring as maybe some other years, but this freshman class is loaded with scoring potential. I feel much better about this team's scoring potential than I did about last year's team at the same time, and that team turned out to be one of our most potent offenses. I could see this going a similar way. If there's one thing we can count on with a Nate Oats team, is that it's gonna be high scoring, no matter how the team may seem on paper. Now again, a lot of this stuff is dependent on Holloway, but I fully expect that to be sorted out by November, and to see him in crimson this winter.I’m not basing this on 2010 standards at all — NIL actually makes it easier to identify proven players by what they’ve already produced at this level. By ‘proven’ I mean guys who’ve consistently performed (not just flashed potential).”
“On the frontcourt: Height and size can help, especially for what Oats wants (mobile, run-and-roll guys), but it’s not automatic improvement without the production to match. Cliff Omoruyi was a great get. The other additions (Fielder, Garrison, Davis-Fleming, Onyejiaka) bring length and potential, but none are walking in as dominant glass-cleaners yet. I never said we lack size.
Guards: Yeah, Oats reloads every year and the system creates production, but losing high-caliber guard talent isn’t nothing. Allen returning is good for continuity, but expecting him to make a Philon-like jump (especially after his production dropped off late) is still an unknown as a sophomore running point full-time. We’ve replaced some with bigs who have effort/consistency questions in the past. Far less proven guard depth right now.
Overall, this team has more questions than some of those other programs early on. Duke/UConn/etc. often land higher-upside lottery talent or proven transfers that look stronger on paper. Bama’s going bigger this year, which could mean slower pace and more system tweaks — less guard-driven attack in a tourney where guards still win games, even in positionless ball. More balanced and deeper in the frontcourt? Sure in spots. But shallow at guard and reliant on unproven jumps again. It’s as unknown as last year, just in different ways. We’ll see it play out — not saying it’s bad, just not clearly better on paper until the guys perform. This is being picky but it’s talking about NC level not just sweet 16. I guess the biggest question is will the defense improve enough to cover less offense? Probably but who knows.
Still excited
...........sureAgain, take a softer approach because it was aggressive.
You've been on this board long enough to know that you don't engage in discussion about moderator comments on the public board. The sarcasm is especially unappreciated............sure
Allowing “aggressive discussions” is an exceedingly slippery slope. That’s why TideFans frowns on them.??? We were actually having a discussion... I didn't see anything wrong with I was saying. Maybe it was little aggressive but other than that, I just saw us having a conversation about the roster. That's all
WowYou've been on this board long enough to know that you don't engage in discussion about moderator comments on the public board. The sarcasm is especially unappreciated.
At this point with our NIL money, I don't think a Final Four prediction is very plausible most years. We simply cannot bring in the numbers of proven D1 producers like a handful of other teams and we don't bring in Euro's (not sure why???). Thus, with us it's about potential every year. We need guys to play to their skillsets and projections - and as last year demonstrated, some years it can go south.I see no reason why we can't be a Final Four team if Holloway returns (I'd be surprised if he doesn't),and if a few bounces go our way. If we make it that far, then I think this team is more equipped to succeed there than teams in recent seasons. I also don't see this as being a less potent offensive team. There isn't as much proven scoring as maybe some other years, but this freshman class is loaded with scoring potential. I feel much better about this team's scoring potential than I did about last year's team at the same time, and that team turned out to be one of our most potent offenses. I could see this going a similar way. If there's one thing we can count on with a Nate Oats team, is that it's gonna be high scoring, no matter how the team may seem on paper. Now again, a lot of this stuff is dependent on Holloway, but I fully expect that to be sorted out by November, and to see him in crimson this winter.