Bama remains # 3 in the Updated Rivals Team Rankings

[DemTide]

http://alabama.rivals.com/teamrank.asp?SID=885

We are still #3, but we are only 9 points away from taking to #2 spot!!

 

[rtr1973]

Re: Updated Rivals Team Rankings

I believe that's 209.

 

[UAEngineer113]

Re: Updated Rivals Team Rankings

I believe that's 209.

Georgia: 2,449
Alabama: 2,241

Fellas...

2449 - 2241 = 208 :eek2:

 

[DemTide]

Re: Updated Rivals Team Rankings

ahah sorry took a quick look at the points.

But it did surprise me becasue neither of us got new recruits...

I guess just delete this thread since it is useless (or just save it until we get another top recruit and we are on 9 points down)

 

[wastedmason]

Re: Updated Rivals Team Rankings

Its funny how a lot of people are laughing or bemoaning the barns recruiting so far this year. They are only 4th in the SEC by this rankings. Just ahead of Florida,Arkansas and Ole Miss. They get their share and they will for as long as Tubby is around. Just the Tide has turned! Fear The Future!!!! Roll Tide!!!!

 

[rtr1973]

Re: Updated Rivals Team Rankings

Georgia: 2,449
Alabama: 2,241

Fellas...

2449 - 2241 = 208 :eek2:

208 ties Georgia, 209 moves ahead of them.

 

[ems655]

Re: Updated Rivals Team Rankings

ahah sorry took a quick look at the points.

But it did surprise me becasue neither of us got new recruits...

I guess just delete this thread since it is useless (or just save it until we get another top recruit and we are on 9 points down)

They got a commitment for OT Cordy Glenn to make the jump in points.

 

[P. C. Pachyderm]

Re: Updated Rivals Team Rankings

Its funny how a lot of people are laughing or bemoaning the barns recruiting so far this year. They are only 4th in the SEC by this rankings. Just ahead of Florida,Arkansas and Ole Miss. They get their share and they will for as long as Tubby is around. Just the Tide has turned! Fear The Future!!!! Roll Tide!!!!

One reason we're laughing at the Barn is that their top three recruits are re-commitments from prior classes that did not qualify. Also, they are getting their hat handed to them in-state.

But I agree, they'll get a decent class before it's over.

 

[Alakablamo]

Just stating the obvious, but don't be suprised when certain teams that traditionally fill out their classes at the very end of the recruiting season leapfrog to the top of the rankings and Bama drops a few spots.

Schools like USC and FSU have very high recruit averages, and are only lacking sheer numbers of recruits at the moment.

 

[rtr1973]

Just stating the obvious, but don't be suprised when certain teams that traditionally fill out their classes at the very end of the recruiting season leapfrog to the top of the rankings and Bama drops a few spots.

Schools like USC and FSU have very high recruit averages, and are only lacking sheer numbers of recruits at the moment.

Yup. When sorted by Average Stars, the Top 20 looks like:

1 Southern Cal 4.00
2 Ohio State 3.93
3 Notre Dame 3.90
4 Oklahoma 3.81
5 Georgia 3.75
6 Michigan 3.75
7 Fla State 3.74
8 Alabama 3.64
9 UCLA 3.64
10 Florida 3.60
11 Miami-FL 3.52
12 Texas 3.47
13 Auburn 3.40
14 LSU 3.38
15 California 3.36
16 Fresno State 3.33
17 Texas A&M 3.29
18 Pittsburgh 3.29
19 Penn State 3.27
20 Clemson 3.25

 

[Bama1985]

Yup. When sorted by Average Stars, the Top 20 looks like:

1 Southern Cal 4.00
2 Ohio State 3.93
3 Notre Dame 3.90
4 Oklahoma 3.81
5 Georgia 3.75
6 Michigan 3.75
7 Fla State 3.74
8 Alabama 3.64
9 UCLA 3.64
10 Florida 3.60
11 Miami-FL 3.52
12 Texas 3.47
13 Auburn 3.40
14 LSU 3.38
15 California 3.36
16 Fresno State 3.33
17 Texas A&M 3.29
18 Pittsburgh 3.29
19 Penn State 3.27
20 Clemson 3.25

Funny how 3 of the top 4 highest ranked programs are not even ranked in the top 20 recruiting.

Kansas, Missouri, and WV

 

[M2J]

Just stating the obvious, but don't be suprised when certain teams that traditionally fill out their classes at the very end of the recruiting season leapfrog to the top of the rankings and Bama drops a few spots.

Schools like USC and FSU have very high recruit averages, and are only lacking sheer numbers of recruits at the moment.

But considering people think we'll end up with about 28 recruits, 1 being the best in the nation in Jones, and the rest mostly being 4 stars, I don't know how many jump ahead of us if we don't jump ahead of everyone

 

[LCN]

Does this really matter ?

In the end , the question is - does your class (1)meet your needs and (2)do they qualify . If not , the stars and rankings hold zero meaning .........
ask xcms about that .

 

[JeffAtlanta]

Does this really matter ?

If recruiting didn't matter then coaches wouldn't spend 18 hours a day trying to woo the top prospects.

The bottomline is that the prospects that are the most highly recruited by the top tier programs get the 4 and 5 star rankings regardless of how the scouting services may initially rank them.

If a program is signing a lot of 4 and 5 star players then it is evidence that it is getting the pick of the litter. If a program is mostly signing 3* recruits then that is evidence that it is getting mostly left overs.

 

[LCN]

If recruiting didn't matter then coaches wouldn't spend 18 hours a day trying to woo the top prospects.

The bottomline is that the prospects that are the most highly recruited by the top tier programs get the 4 and 5 star rankings regardless of how the scouting services may initially rank them.

If a program is signing a lot of 4 and 5 star players then it is evidence that it is getting the pick of the litter. If a program is mostly signing 3* recruits then that is evidence that it is getting mostly left overs.

RANKINGS not recruiting . Dude , I'm a former recruiting "expert" and probably know the way it works from A-Z but , ....... thanks for the off-topic lesson . :wink:

 

[JeffAtlanta]

RANKINGS not recruiting . Dude , I'm a former recruiting "expert" and probably know the way it works from A-Z but , thanks for the off-topic lesson .

LOL, that's super. I do agree that the overall rankings are not super important. If we finish ahead or behind Oklahoma, Ohio State or Southern Cal doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things.

What does matter, however, is signing the best overall class you can and that means signing lots of 4 and 5 star recruits. How well a program does that will be reflected in the overall rankings.

 

[LCN]

So as not to bicker :redface: , I thought I'd put up the whole quote ......

Does this really matter ?

In the end , the question is - does your class (1)meet your needs and (2)do they qualify . If not , the stars and rankings hold zero meaning .........
ask xcms about that .

Yes - recruiting is the life of every program but , rankings are subjective - at best .

XCMS - pulled in some decent rankings but , knocked our roster out of balance and depleted our front 7 on defense . Ranked well but , always failed to meet pressing needs . XCMD - Ranked very well but never could go without 7-10 non-Q's . That's why rankings don't matter unless you (1) meet your needs and (2) get them in and keep them in school .

I don't put much stock in *'s either . IMO , it's much more important to see which schools offer a prospect rather than what a "guru" thinks about guys they usually really know little to nothing about . I'm just glad YouTube is around so most of the fans can have a look for themselves .

RTR !!!! :BigA:

 

[SoldierForTide]

So as not to bicker :redface: , I thought I'd put up the whole quote ......


Yes - recruiting is the life of every program but , rankings are subjective - at best .

XCMS - pulled in some decent rankings but , knocked our roster out of balance and depleted our front 7 on defense . Ranked well but , always failed to meet pressing needs . XCMD - Ranked very well but never could go without 7-10 non-Q's . That's why rankings don't matter unless you (1) meet your needs and (2) get them in and keep them in school .

I don't put much stock in *'s either . IMO , it's much more important to see which schools offer a prospect rather than what a "guru" thinks about guys they usually really know little to nothing about . I'm just glad YouTube is around so most of the fans can have a look for themselves .

RTR !!!! :BigA:

LCN-

I definitely see your angle regarding the rankings and their worth. My only gripe would be that, these days, they probably do matter. I mean the most research most of what these guys do is spoken to them from any given schools coach and the internet. If I am living outside of Bama and never really followed them and one of the first things I saw was Bama at #3 in recruiting, I'd be impressed. It helps even more when you can draw in a big time player that is known nationally.

I also think it helps bring in the fans. IMHO, if they did away with all the rankings and *'s no one would really have any clue who's who. I think it helps get people interested and excited about the players of the future. YouTube is great too. All in all, it won't ever be who was ranked highest or who we thought was over rated or under rated, but rather, who the coaches want. My personal gauge (being no expert) is comparing the stars to the offers that a player has received. That shows me who the coaches at the big schools think is a stud.

Anyway, just a little ramble on a Tuesday night

 

[tidefanbeezer]

Team rankings don't matter. You can have the greatest recruiting class ever, but if you can't develop those guys into great college players, then you're team will be no better off for having them.

 

[TexasBammer]

Re: Updated Rivals Team Rankings

One reason we're laughing at the Barn is that their top three recruits are re-commitments from prior classes that did not qualify. Also, they are getting their hat handed to them in-state.

But I agree, they'll get a decent class before it's over.

Auburn's class looks alot like Shula's classes in this manner.