Hope so.
I think Proctor is much better at run blocking then pass blocking and maybe Coach Grubb gives more attention to the run game than we had last year.
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I think Proctor is much better at run blocking then pass blocking and maybe Coach Grubb gives more attention to the run game than we had last year.
Thats why i dislike slide protection blocking schemes. The line slides in one direction in zone blocking schemes, the TE or RB is responsible for blocking the unblocked edge player. Ideally, the QB will move with the slide or use cut back run lanes behind the line. More often, you get crazy double and triple teams on defenders with anither guy unblocked. Offensive linemen are taught to protect a zone and trust the guy outside your zone is blocked by the guy responsible for that zone. That is why you get guys looking around not blocking anyone while the QB is getting sacked.
Get used to it, many teams, not just Bama have switched to it. When it works, it works. When it don’t, it could be disastrous
Get used to it, many teams, not just Bama have switched to it. When it works, it works. When it don’t, it could be disastrous
I mean that’s how everything is lol I like zone but the kids have to understand it and so far they don’t. for 4 years the teaching has been bad and then add in some really bad RTs and lack of leadership/mental ability to make line calls you get what we have been. BY had the mental ability to make calls but the line coach and OC didn’t and add in bad RT. Last year avg at best RT, slow LT who should be RT and no QB making calls or staying in pocket and at this point not sure how the line coach is but doesn’t look good.
All the preseason hype around the OL puzzles me.
The last season we didn’t under-achieve there was 2020….four straight seasons of mediocrity and excuses. And I really don’t understand the hype around Proctor. Has he suddenly (like, the last week or so) swapped 20 pounds of fat for 20 pounds of muscle? Has he suddenly run a 4.7 40?
We have legitimate questions about every position except Center.
Some of those questions will likely be answered positively. Probabilities being what they are, though, some other answers will not likely be so rosy
Yes, we have potential. And as the adage goes, that means we haven’t done anything yet.
So where’s all the good feelings coming from?
I’m hopeful, but also of the Missouri mindset on the OL  i.e., after 4 years of wallowing around, you need to show me the purported change.
The last season we didn’t under-achieve there was 2020….four straight seasons of mediocrity and excuses. And I really don’t understand the hype around Proctor. Has he suddenly (like, the last week or so) swapped 20 pounds of fat for 20 pounds of muscle? Has he suddenly run a 4.7 40?
We have legitimate questions about every position except Center.
Some of those questions will likely be answered positively. Probabilities being what they are, though, some other answers will not likely be so rosy
Yes, we have potential. And as the adage goes, that means we haven’t done anything yet.
So where’s all the good feelings coming from?
I’m hopeful, but also of the Missouri mindset on the OL  i.e., after 4 years of wallowing around, you need to show me the purported change.
Over/Under on the number of times the words "Good block...wrong guy." have been uttered in film sessions over the past few years?
well, I question center. He's not SEC sized, and while I respect the size of the fight in the dog and the fact he does have very solid technique, raw physics are hard to overcome sometimes, and having an undersized guy in the middle might just be one of the reasons we're having to slide protections as much as we do to create double teams when the center is at risk of being overpowered.
I don't know choke-lahomas personnel, but let's just say in this play in question the best rusher is to our right edge. That could call for a legit double team with the RT and RG. Now let's say the DT that was shaded just to the right of the OC is a stud also. That might mean we need a double there if we have to be concerned with the OC getting overpowered, and that means the LG has to shift to that zone. That's a big exposure risk that is created for the left side of the line, and if teams know we are going to slide protections that way, they can expose it.
not many teams have the type of nose to give our center an issue. Even less teams have DL that would require a double teams (more than one) like that especially multiple plays. Zone scheme also helps in your scenario cause he would just need to push the guy that direction/face up him a little if a run and the rb pops through behind or on a pass the lg wouldn’t help but the rb could. Most likely in your scenario a TE helps the RT anyway if we scouted and prepared properly.
He coached OL when DeBoer was OC before elevating to OC/QBs
well, I'd agree with a TE or RB helping out on the RT would be a good option, but that wasn't close to what happened on this play.
The TE lined up to the left immediately. The RB also went left, but that seemed reactionary since the left DE was completely unblocked.
Even if it was just supposed to be the LG helping the RT since he had a somewhat inside alignment, like the OP posted, I can't figure out in what world what the Center, LG and LT are doing. The center appears to not even move at the guy lined up to his right shoulder, but maybe he does give him a tiny shove we can't see. he's pretty useless on this play TBH. Then the LG AND LT reach to the IDL that the Center just moved on from so he could block no one, potentially leaving 2 rushers that would have to be blocked by a TE and an RB.
I can't EVER see a coach thinking this would be a good idea. Not even a peewee coach. That's why I think it's a busted call on the field somewhere. I don't have any idea who called what or who busted what or maybe who didn't understand the call but putting 5 OL against 2 DL and expecting the TE and RB to ISO block a DL and Edge rusher isn't ever in the gameplan.
Man, it’s good talking football instead of politics or NIL or courts.
About that... Interesting you brought up that. The passing blocking wasn't bad , but wasn't great either. Run blocking wasn't very good. It was worse. there wasn't any open holes to run through many time throughout the season. They have worked hard on that in the off season and i think it'll pay off.
The front 7 on defense could fill every gap keying on Milroe knowing there was not much of a short intermediate passing to protect. That made running the ball very progressively worse through the season.
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