The November 4, 2025 National/State/Local Election Thread

[crimsonaudio]

It's like I posted earlier. NYC is like it's own country. It's so big that, if you take NYC, you will win the EC vote. That being said, its politics are unlike anywhere else in the country.

My wife wants to go sometime in the future, and I will probably humor her. It would be fun to see some Broadway shows, but I've been to Paris, Prague, Vienna, Krakow, and NYC probably doesn't hold a candle to any of those places.

It's an awesome city to visit. Truly incredible.

But after about three days the constant noise gets to me and it's time to head home.

If you get the chance, make the trip!

 

[75thru79]

The Republicans, once again, nominated a black candidate trying to pry away black votes from the Democrats. They did the same thing in Georgia when running Herschel Walker. The GOP keeps stepping on that rake.

It is extremely stupid. It's like those people that claim they have several "black friends" so they can't be racist. It doesn't work and you don't have to have a "black friend" to not be a racist. That's all political BS. Democrats are always going to try and paint the Republicans as racist because the Republican stance of low taxes, crime and punishment and personal responsibility is going to bump heads with the Dems full blown foray into identity politics, where everything is viewed as oppressor and oppressed and any government policy that makes it harder for a member of an oppressed group is automatically racist.

If the Republicans can find some good minority candidates then by all means run them. Otherwise just stop with the Herschel Walker type candidates.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

The Republicans, once again, nominated a black candidate trying to pry away black votes from the Democrats. They did the same thing in Georgia when running Herschel Walker. The GOP keeps stepping on that rake.

They clearly understand how superficial most voters are and it makes sense to try this and see if it works, but when one realizes that it doesn't, it's time to try something else. The indoctrination just runs too deeply.

 

[Its On A Slab]

It is extremely stupid. It's like those people that claim they have several "black friends" so they can't be racist. It doesn't work and you don't have to have a "black friend" to not be a racist. That's all political BS. Democrats are always going to try and paint the Republicans as racist because the Republican stance of low taxes, crime and punishment and personal responsibility is going to bump heads with the Dems full blown foray into identity politics, where everything is viewed as oppressor and oppressed and any government policy that makes it harder for a member of an oppressed group is automatically racist.

If the Republicans can find some good minority candidates then by all means run them. Otherwise just stop with the Herschel Walker type candidates.

I have said this before here in a sort of mocking way, but it rings true. If you ever notice, every 4 years at the GOP convention, the networks will single out the 15-20 minorities in the sea of old white men, and make it look like an incredibly diverse crowd. When the camera pans out (which is on purpose, seldomly), it's a sea of whiteness.

 

[Its On A Slab]

I hate it when the pull this kind of crap.

It proves that (most of) our elected officials only obey the rules because they have to.

I was irate when I saw that it was on the ballot. Because I knew that most people wouldn't even bother to show up at the polls. I left everything blank on my ballot except for the bond issue. Because I'm not going to vote for people I know nothing about. I"m too busy to keep up with school boards and I didn't even know who my mayor was.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

It's going to be fun political theatre in NY. All the things that Mamdani promised he cannot do.

Not a problem at all.

He's a Democrat.

Which means every failure on his part for the lies he told to get elected will be, "Because racism" as it always is. He'll even add "because Islamophobia."

I think what's kind of bizarre is that what prevents folks from leading any kind of so-called revolution that can do more than push marginally in one direction or another is why we've lasted so long. My biggest fear is the guard rails that Trump - with his willing accomplices in his cowardly party - has broken.

 

[Tidewater]

They clearly understand how superficial most voters are and it makes sense to try this and see if it works, but when one realizes that it doesn't, it's time to try something else. The indoctrination just runs too deeply.

For me blackness or whiteness is irrelevant. You have to have (a) some policies you will work towrad adopting (realizing that one politician can never do it all by him/herself) and (b) character that I can trust your judgment on things that might come up that were not mentioned during the campaign (or are just unforeseen).
Winsome Sears did not come across as having either.

 

[CrimsonNagus]

LOL at the media calling winning like 5 elections a blue wave. Democrats overreact to every small victory and will probably learn the wrong lessons from this blue drip.

I’m so sick of the media trying to act like whatever happens in NYC matters to the rest of the country. Why the hell do I care who is mayor? They could elect a communist for all I care, ain’t gonna change anything for me in Montgomery, AL.

Democrats can’t get complacent, still a lot of work to do over the next year. No one nationally will remember these elections in a week, much less when the midterms come around.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

For me blackness or whiteness is irrelevant. You have to have (a) some policies you will work towrad adopting (realizing that one politician can never do it all by him/herself) and (b) character that I can trust your judgment on things that might come up that were not mentioned during the campaign (or are just unforeseen).
Winsome Sears did not come across as having either.

Yep, the whole "vote for me because I'm (fill in the blank: black, gay, trans, whatever) is lazy and stupid. I guess it's no surprise that it only works on lazy and stupid voters.

 

[75thru79]

I have said this before here in a sort of mocking way, but it rings true. If you ever notice, every 4 years at the GOP convention, the networks will single out the 15-20 minorities in the sea of old white men, and make it look like an incredibly diverse crowd. When the camera pans out (which is on purpose, seldomly), it's a sea of whiteness.

Partisanship by race, ethnicity and education

The Republican Party now holds a 15-point advantage among White registered voters and a 6-point edge for voters without a college degree.

www.pewresearch.org

It's not nearly as dire as you say. Sure, the overwhelmingly number of republican are "white" but the number of minority members is gradually going up and I see nothing on the horizon changing that. Trump will be gone in a few years so the virulent anti-Trump rhetoric will die down after a while.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

Trump will be gone in a few years so the virulent anti-Trump rhetoric will die down after a while.

Technically true, but it will be anti-whomever rhetoric after the fact. It has proven effective, so they will continue to run it into the ground.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

This will not get as much attention for obvious reasons, but it's another feather in the cap of the Democrats.

No fewer than 21 town or city councils in the state of Connecticut flipped from Republican to Democrat yesterday. My brother (who lives in CT) mentioned this to me as he's having to work it with the news today.

He loves today - it's the day you can't tell the difference in a Trump/Bernie/Warren voter because they all scream when they call the station and sound exactly the same except for what their pet issues are or who/what is making them mad.

 

[Bazza]

I was irate when I saw that it was on the ballot. Because I knew that most people wouldn't even bother to show up at the polls. I left everything blank on my ballot except for the bond issue. Because I'm not going to vote for people I know nothing about. I"m too busy to keep up with school boards and I didn't even know who my mayor was.

We did our part here.....

New Smyrna Beach voters decisively rejected City Charter amendments that proposed to double the mayor’s term of office (62% voted no), elect candidates who earn over 50% of primary votes (65%), reclassify the city clerk as a department head (60%), increase mayor and commissioner salaries (75%), and relax historic preservation requirements (58%) during yesterday’s special election.

Adding a section prioritizing cultural arts squeaked by (51% voted yes) while mandating further City Charter reviews at least every 10 years passed comfortably (61%).

Turnout among the city’s eight voting precincts was highest in 807, made up of Bouchelle Island and beachside neighborhoods north of 17th Avenue, which cast 1,534 ballots.

Last night’s results bring to an end a process initiated by the City Commission after concerns were raised about how elections are conducted shortly after swearing-in ceremonies were held on Nov. 12, 2024.

 

[Bazza]

This is what they were trying to push through.

-Change the mayor’s term of office from 2 to 4 years to be
consistent with the term lengths of zone commissioners

-Declare candidates for office the winner if they receive over
50% of votes cast in a primary election, allowing them to
bypass the general election

-Reclassify the city clerk — responsible for record keeping,
administering public meetings, and overseeing elections —
as a department head supervised by the city’s full-time
professional manager rather than a charter officer supervised
by its five part-time elected officials

-Base City Commission salaries on a formula in the City Charter,
ending the current practice of elected officials setting their
own salaries by simple majority vote. The formula would set
the mayor’s salary at 75% of what the Volusia County Council
Chair earns, adjusting it from $28,081 to $50,545, and
commissioner salaries at 75% of what the mayor earns,
adjusting them from $21,060.75 to $37,909.35

-Encourage historic preservation through incentives and
voluntary programs rather than regulate it through policies
and ordinances

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We have severe flooding issues throughout the area. Yet.....no one is really doing much to curb new development and/or improve storm water management.

The "folks" aren't going to tolerate it any more.......

 

[AWRTR]

Technically true, but it will be anti-whomever rhetoric after the fact. It has proven effective, so they will continue to run it into the ground.

You know it. I'm old enough to remember when Biden told a group of African Americans that Mitt Romney was going to put them back in chains. Mitt Romney, really? The most milquetoast non threatening dude anyone has ever seen. When they paint Romney like that no will be safe from being called a fascist, nazi, racist. It's just in the play book.

 

[Its On A Slab]

We did our part here.....

New Smyrna Beach voters decisively rejected City Charter amendments that proposed to double the mayor’s term of office (62% voted no), elect candidates who earn over 50% of primary votes (65%), reclassify the city clerk as a department head (60%), increase mayor and commissioner salaries (75%), and relax historic preservation requirements (58%) during yesterday’s special election.

Adding a section prioritizing cultural arts squeaked by (51% voted yes) while mandating further City Charter reviews at least every 10 years passed comfortably (61%).

Turnout among the city’s eight voting precincts was highest in 807, made up of Bouchelle Island and beachside neighborhoods north of 17th Avenue, which cast 1,534 ballots.

Last night’s results bring to an end a process initiated by the City Commission after concerns were raised about how elections are conducted shortly after swearing-in ceremonies were held on Nov. 12, 2024.

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I just wish people here in my school district would read the school bonds. Last year, we had one that was going to put a new artificial turf on the practice fields. When my kids were in high school in West Omaha, the three high schools shared the same stadium. And the football programsm were self-funded by the boosters.

They just built a new high school here last year, and guess what? I could throw a rock and hit the new stadium from the existing stadium.

When I'm paying thru the nose in property taxes already(we pay the highest in the state), I'm a little hesitant to give two craps about artificial turf on practice fields. Raise money. Sell "turf bonds". Bake sales. There are ways to fund non-school things.

And this is the same school district that charges us for the kids' books. $150 a kid every year.

 

[Its On A Slab]

Another takeaway from NYC's mayoral election. If you add Curtis Sliwa's vote totals to Cuomo's, it's a 30,000 vote difference. Out of about 2 million votes cast.

So it would have been a much closer race had there only been two candidates running.

 

[jthomas666]

We did our part here.....

New Smyrna Beach voters decisively rejected City Charter amendments that proposed to double the mayor’s term of office (62% voted no), elect candidates who earn over 50% of primary votes (65%), reclassify the city clerk as a department head (60%), increase mayor and commissioner salaries (75%), and relax historic preservation requirements (58%) during yesterday’s special election.

Good for them! Particularly on the raises--takes a lot of nerve to ask for a raise in today's economy.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

Has anyone else noticed that Mandami won for the same reason Trump did a year ago? And does that take some of the shine off this win for the Dems? I'm pretty sure most of the people who voted for this guy weren't really buying what he was selling. I think they are so sick of the establishment loser-think, they were ready for an alternative....literally ANY alternative.

And this isn't just the poors, this includes nearly everyone who isn't rich. We're losing ground in the wages vs inflation battle. Social Security and Medicare aren't safe. Our pensions aren't safe. Everything feels like we are hanging precariously over a canyon, with nothing but a string of dental floss holding us up. When there are no reasonable options, I guess we're left with only unreasonable ones with which to choose.

Anyway, I was just sitting here pondering how Trump haters and Trump supporters are so much alike it's hard to tell them apart until they start screaming at one another and that's when it hit me that even though this is not a presidential election, it is still very much a desperation move that reminds me a lot of a year ago.

 

[Bazza]

Good for them! Particularly on the raises--takes a lot of nerve to ask for a raise in today's economy.

"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has."
~Margaret Mead