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I have a passport but haven't used it for years and right now am not really sure where it is. I know I have one here somewhere and will dig it out at some point, just to make sure I have it in hand.

MY Florida DL has the star at the upper right corner.


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This is what I got from reading the bill:

(b) Documentary proof of United States citizenship.—As used in this Act, the term ‘documentary proof of United States citizenship’ means, with respect to an applicant for voter registration, any of the following:

“(1) A form of identification issued consistent with the requirements of the REAL ID Act of 2005 that indicates the applicant is a citizen of the United States.
“(2) A valid United States passport.
“(3) The applicant's official United States military identification card, together with a United States military record of service showing that the applicant's place of birth was in the United States.
“(4) A valid government-issued photo identification card issued by a Federal, State or Tribal government showing that the applicant’s place of birth was in the United States.
“(5) A valid government-issued photo identification card issued by a Federal, State or Tribal government other than an identification described in paragraphs (1) through (4), but only if presented together with one or more of the following:

“(A) A certified birth certificate issued by a State, a unit of local government in a State, or a Tribal government which—

“(i) was issued by the State, unit of local government, or Tribal government in which the applicant was born;
“(ii) was filed with the office responsible for keeping vital records in the State;
“(iii) includes the full name, date of birth, and place of birth of the applicant;
“(iv) lists the full names of one or both of the parents of the applicant;
“(v) has the signature of an individual who is authorized to sign birth certificates on behalf of the State, unit of local government, or Tribal government in which the applicant was born;
“(vi) includes the date that the certificate was filed with the office responsible for keeping vital records in the State; and
“(vii) has the seal of the State, unit of local government, or Tribal government that issued the birth certificate.
“(B) An extract from a United States hospital Record of Birth created at the time of the applicant's birth which indicates that the applicant’s place of birth was in the United States.
“(C) A final adoption decree showing the applicant’s name and that the applicant’s place of birth was in the United States.
“(D) A Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a citizen of the United States or a certification of the applicant’s Report of Birth of a United States citizen issued by the Secretary of State.
“(E) A Naturalization Certificate or Certificate of Citizenship issued by the Secretary of Homeland Security or any other document or method of proof of United States citizenship issued by the Federal government pursuant to the Immigration and Nationality Act.
“(F) An American Indian Card issued by the Department of Homeland Security with the classification ‘KIC’.”.

“(A) PROCESS FOR THOSE WITHOUT DOCUMENTARY PROOF.—

“(i) IN GENERAL.—Subject to any relevant guidance adopted by the Election Assistance Commission, each State shall establish a process under which an applicant who cannot provide documentary proof of United States citizenship under paragraph (1) may, if the applicant signs an attestation under penalty of perjury that the applicant is a citizen of the United States and eligible to vote in elections for Federal office, submit such other evidence to the appropriate State or local official demonstrating that the applicant is a citizen of the United States and such official shall make a determination as to whether the applicant has sufficiently established United States citizenship for purposes of registering to vote in elections for Federal office in the State.

“(ii) AFFIDAVIT REQUIREMENT.—If a State or local official makes a determination under clause (i) that an applicant has sufficiently established United States citizenship for purposes of registering to vote in elections for Federal office in the State, such determination shall be accompanied by an affidavit developed under clause (iii) signed by the official swearing or affirming the applicant sufficiently established United States citizenship for purposes of registering to vote.

“(iii) DEVELOPMENT OF AFFIDAVIT BY THE ELECTION ASSISTANCE COMMISSION.—The Election Assistance Commission shall develop a uniform affidavit for use by State and local officials under clause (ii), which shall—

“(I) include an explanation of the minimum standards required for a State or local official to register an applicant who cannot provide documentary proof of United States citizenship to vote in elections for Federal office in the State; and

“(II) require the official to explain the basis for registering such applicant to vote in such elections.

Seems like someone legally born in the US can register to vote even if they somehow don't have access to a BC.
 
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I have a passport but haven't used it for years and right now am not really sure where it is. I know I have one here somewhere and will dig it out at some point, just to make sure I have it in hand.

MY Florida DL has the star at the upper right corner.


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Interesting. Here in AL our star is in the upper left corner. I assumed it would have been standardized across the country to make it easier for people to quickly find.


I have a passport for the first time in my life. Got it a few months ago when we also got one for my daughter. She is a senior in HS, and their senior trip is to Europe, so we figured one of us parents should have one just in case of an emergency.
 
I have a passport but haven't used it for years and right now am not really sure where it is. I know I have one here somewhere and will dig it out at some point, just to make sure I have it in hand.

MY Florida DL has the star at the upper right corner.


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A friend's Alabama star license was refused this week in Kodiak, AK (which I thought was part of this country.) Fortunately, she had her passport, which is what I use here...
 
A friend's Alabama star license was refused this week in Kodiak, AK (which I thought was part of this country.) Fortunately, she had her passport, which is what I use here...
I wonder why they refused it. How odd. She probably needs to contact the Alabama Law Enforcement Agency and find out what happened.
 

“Not Ready for Prime Time.” A Federal Tool to Check Voter Citizenship Keeps Making Mistakes.​

  • Widespread Errors: An expanded federal tool for identifying noncitizens on voter rolls is making persistent mistakes, particularly in assessing citizenship for people born outside the U.S.
  • Banned From Voting: In Missouri, state officials told local clerks to temporarily ban flagged voters from casting ballots, even though hundreds turned out to be citizens.
  • Texas Confusion: As errors emerged in SAVE data, local clerks said the state hadn’t provided them with clear guidance and worried about disenfranchising eligible citizens.
 
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A "striker" bill will be heard in the AZ Senate tomorrow that would require county election officials to enter into an agreement with ICE allowing them to enter vote centers and polling places.

Just spoke with a GOP operative who suggested this is a telegraph of the potentially incoming Trump EO.

An EO cannot force states to compel voters to show ID to vote.

But what they can try to do is station federal agents at polling places who would conduct the ID check.

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A "striker" bill will be heard in the AZ Senate tomorrow that would require county election officials to enter into an agreement with ICE allowing them to enter vote centers and polling places.

Just spoke with a GOP operative who suggested this is a telegraph of the potentially incoming Trump EO.

An EO cannot force states to compel voters to show ID to vote.

But what they can try to do is station federal agents at polling places who would conduct the ID check.

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In a properly functioning democratic government, any government deploying force during an election should be tried for sedition aka J6 2026...
 
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A divided Supreme Court sided with the federal government on Tuesday in U.S. Postal Service v. Konan, a dispute over mishandled mail. Writing for a 5-4 majority, Justice Clarence Thomas explained that a law protecting the U.S. Postal Service from lawsuits over lost or miscarried mail bars lawsuits over mail that was intentionally misdelivered.

I gotta side with the liberal justices on this one. This right here is exactly why voting by mail is a stupid idea.
 



I gotta side with the liberal justices on this one. This right here is exactly why voting by mail is a stupid idea.
Understanding that everything these days is political, what's the angle here for the Dems (Kagan, Jackson. Sotomayor)? Why do they want citizens to be able to sue the postal service? How is this going to help keep Dems in power?
 
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