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Nice article from USA Today by way of SBNation.

Auburn isn’t mistaken about August 1st: Cohen and Freeze just won’t admit that the well has run dry - Roll 'Bama Roll

Says there are essentially two tiers of college football, and most of the P4 is in the second tier. So there's a reckoning coming. Thanks, Captain Obvious -- nothing new there.

It also confirms a question I had -- it's true that there's a cap on the House settlement of a bit over $20 million. But how do you keep a people, ostensibly not related to the University, from spending their own money any way they want? Apparently, the answer is that you don't.

IOW, on top of the revenue sharing, any school that can is offering guaranteed supplements from its collective.

The article notes that the only schools interpreting House in a way that limits outside supplements to revenue sharing are those that can't do it anyway. They would if they could, but they don't have the money.

It goes on to say that most of the Big 12 is broke. And a lot of the SEC, including the barn, is too.

I'm honestly a bit surprised that Jimmy Rane and the Lowders haven't stepped up more. But apparently they haven't.

Finally, the article says that the only solutions are a CBA or a single payer -- which is really just a twist on a CBA. Nothing new there, either. We've been saying that here on TF for about three years now. Still, it's gratifying that the national talking heads are finally waking up and saying the quiet part out loud.
 
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When “Paying Players” was ILLEGAL…..it was a calculated decision to do it, and was worth the cost and risk for “Auburn money men“ because it afforded them an advantage and allowed them to better compete with the more prominent programs.

Now that it is LEGAL to pay players…..everyone is doing it, and it no longer affords these people the huge advantage that it previously did…..therefor they no longer see it as the attractive “Return on Investment” that they previously viewed it as being.
 

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KJ Ford. Any chatters on him?
I've been doing some digging this morning on him. A friend of mine hit me up this morning because he saw Tim Watts, who I have a ton of respect for, posted about things trending in Bama's direction and wanted to know if I heard anything. Made some calls, and this is trending in Bama's direction. The kid has always loved Bama, but Alabama does not get into bidding wars. Alabama is very competitive on the NIL front and will present fair and reasonable offers to kids, but we won't do the back and forth or deal with kids whose decisions are solely based on the highest bidder. Things trended away from Bama because of that initially. It seems like Ford's love for Bama has outweighed everything else. His camp reached out to Bama ahead of his decision on tomorrow and dialogue has been happening all week on the low between the two sides. If things stay heading in the direction that they are as of right now, I see a KJ Ford to Bama surprise on tomorrow. I'll keep you posted if anything shifts again.
 

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I've been doing some digging this morning on him. A friend of mine hit me up this morning because he saw Tim Watts, who I have a ton of respect for, posted about things trending in Bama's direction and wanted to know if I heard anything. Made some calls, and this is trending in Bama's direction. The kid has always loved Bama, but Alabama does not get into bidding wars. Alabama is very competitive on the NIL front and will present fair and reasonable offers to kids, but we won't do the back and forth or deal with kids whose decisions are solely based on the highest bidder. Things trended away from Bama because of that initially. It seems like Ford's love for Bama has0 outweighed everything else. His camp reached out to Bama ahead of his decision on tomorrow and dialogue has been happening all week on the low between the two sides. If things stay heading in the direction that they are as of right now, I see a KJ Ford to Bama surprise on tomorrow. I'll keep you posted if anything shifts again.
Ah that's what I thought. Heard about it this morning and I wasn't sure if it's true.
 

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When “Paying Players” was ILLEGAL…..it was a calculated decision to do it, and was worth the cost and risk for “Auburn money men“ because it afforded them an advantage and allowed them to better compete with the more prominent programs.

Now that it is LEGAL to pay players…..everyone is doing it, and it no longer affords these people the huge advantage that it previously did…..therefor they no longer see it as the attractive “Return on Investment” that they previously viewed it as being.
awbern has lost the advantage now that everyone can do legally... :cool:
 
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Nice article from USA Today by way of SBNation.

Auburn isn’t mistaken about August 1st: Cohen and Freeze just won’t admit that the well has run dry - Roll 'Bama Roll

Says there are essentially two tiers of college football, and most of the P4 is in the second tier. So there's a reckoning coming. Thanks, Captain Obvious -- nothing new there.

It also confirms a question I had -- it's true that there's a cap on the House settlement of a bit over $20 million. But how do you keep a people, ostensibly not related to the University, from spending their own money any way they want? Apparently, the answer is that you don't.

IOW, on top of the revenue sharing, any school that can is offering guaranteed supplements from its collective.

The article notes that the only schools interpreting House in a way that limits outside supplements to revenue sharing are those that can't do it anyway. They would if they could, but they don't have the money.

It goes on to say that most of the Big 12 is broke. And a lot of the SEC, including the barn, is too.

I'm honestly a bit surprised that Jimmy Rane and the Lowders haven't stepped up more. But apparently they haven't.

Finally, the article says that the only solutions are a CBA or a single payer -- which is really just a twist on a CBA. Nothing new there, either. We've been saying that here on TF for about three years now. Still, it's gratifying that the national talking heads are finally waking up and saying the quiet part out loud.

Correct in that NIL will be used to "supplement" money to lure in some recruits.

However all NIL deals must pass the clearinghouse now. Thats new and if they reject a deal it goes back to the drawing board. We dont know exactly what kinds of deals will get rejected yet, but most assume it will be the ludicrous type, or type that cant be justified with a kids marketability or "q score" or whatever term you want to use. If a kids got a million followers on Instagram you may could promise him the moon in NIL as long as hiu can pay it because its justifiable.

Id heard some numbers about the number of NIL deals have been submitted already over the month of June and out of the massive number ( i think it was 4000 but may be wrong) I heard were submitted a chunk have already been approved most were in review and onoy about 80 had been rejected so far.

That comes from Jimmy Stein via an On3 article fwiw.
 

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Nice article from USA Today by way of SBNation.

Auburn isn’t mistaken about August 1st: Cohen and Freeze just won’t admit that the well has run dry - Roll 'Bama Roll

Says there are essentially two tiers of college football, and most of the P4 is in the second tier. So there's a reckoning coming. Thanks, Captain Obvious -- nothing new there.

It also confirms a question I had -- it's true that there's a cap on the House settlement of a bit over $20 million. But how do you keep a people, ostensibly not related to the University, from spending their own money any way they want? Apparently, the answer is that you don't.

IOW, on top of the revenue sharing, any school that can is offering guaranteed supplements from its collective.

The article notes that the only schools interpreting House in a way that limits outside supplements to revenue sharing are those that can't do it anyway. They would if they could, but they don't have the money.

It goes on to say that most of the Big 12 is broke. And a lot of the SEC, including the barn, is too.

I'm honestly a bit surprised that Jimmy Rane and the Lowders haven't stepped up more. But apparently they haven't.

Finally, the article says that the only solutions are a CBA or a single payer -- which is really just a twist on a CBA. Nothing new there, either. We've been saying that here on TF for about three years now. Still, it's gratifying that the national talking heads are finally waking up and saying the quiet part out loud.
Ill also add that if an NIL deal isn't rejected there are 2 options. Re make the deal in a way that addresses the rejection (likely less money) or keep the deal BUT it counts against your salary cap.
 
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I've been doing some digging this morning on him. A friend of mine hit me up this morning because he saw Tim Watts, who I have a ton of respect for, posted about things trending in Bama's direction and wanted to know if I heard anything. Made some calls, and this is trending in Bama's direction. The kid has always loved Bama, but Alabama does not get into bidding wars. Alabama is very competitive on the NIL front and will present fair and reasonable offers to kids, but we won't do the back and forth or deal with kids whose decisions are solely based on the highest bidder. Things trended away from Bama because of that initially. It seems like Ford's love for Bama has outweighed everything else. His camp reached out to Bama ahead of his decision on tomorrow and dialogue has been happening all week on the low between the two sides. If things stay heading in the direction that they are as of right now, I see a KJ Ford to Bama surprise on tomorrow. I'll keep you posted if anything shifts again.
I would think this may affect Tank Jones decision. What are your thoughts?
 
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Correct in that NIL will be used to "supplement" money to lure in some recruits.

However all NIL deals must pass the clearinghouse now. Thats new and if they reject a deal it goes back to the drawing board. We dont know exactly what kinds of deals will get rejected yet, but most assume it will be the ludicrous type, or type that cant be justified with a kids marketability or "q score" or whatever term you want to use. If a kids got a million followers on Instagram you may could promise him the moon in NIL as long as hiu can pay it because its justifiable.

Id heard some numbers about the number of NIL deals have been submitted already over the month of June and out of the massive number ( i think it was 4000 but may be wrong) I heard were submitted a chunk have already been approved most were in review and onoy about 80 had been rejected so far.

That comes from Jimmy Stein via an On3 article fwiw.
Thanks for the clarification.

Two thoughts: First, I simply can't believe that Greg Byrne would allow a process that strikes deals that stand a good chance of being rejected. So I'd be really surprised if that happened to any of our offers.

Second, I still don't understand how this new "clearinghouse" has authority whereas the old NCAA didn't. I mean, from a legal perspective, what's the difference?

IOW, I think the clearinghouse will stand about as long as it takes to lose a lawsuit. Which I'd expect well before the December signing day.
 
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No, this has no effect on Tank. Defensive line is a rotational position especially these days. A lot of these guys have positional versatility and will change body types. I still like where Bama sits for Tank.
I agree. I also dont think they will play the same position. I think Ford is a good wolf candidate and tank will untilmatly be a bandit.

And Griffin may be a all purpose LB like jihad was, moving from middle to edge as needed in game
 

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I agree. I also dont think they will play the same position. I think Ford is a good wolf candidate and tank will untilmatly be a bandit.

And Griffin may be a all purpose LB like jihad was, moving from middle to edge as needed in game
We have Matthews also who is a high level Edge also. Going to be loaded if we can get Jones also.
 

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I agree. I also dont think they will play the same position. I think Ford is a good wolf candidate and tank will untilmatly be a bandit.

And Griffin may be a all purpose LB like jihad was, moving from middle to edge as needed in game
We have Matthews also who is a high level Edge also. Going to be loaded if we can get Jones also.
Yes, it will most likely look like this:
Finch-DT
Matthews-Bandit/DT
Ford-Wolf/possibly Bandit
Wilson-Bandit/DT
Griffin-ILB/Wolf
Tank-Wolf/Bandit
 

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