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A Different Take? Not as bad as it looked - NO TEASERS

SkullDuckery said:
🤔 Josh Pate

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He’s for a while been yet another ‘expert’ that I don’t pay much attention to or put stock in.

I mean he’s right in this video about the drop off in quality wrt to our Coaching staff top to bottom.

But the way he speaks about it with such authority and so definitively…lol

Didn’t he JUST pick us to win the NC 14 days ago?

Lol

These guys are all the same and don’t know anything.
 
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tusks_n_raider said:
He’s for a while been yet another ‘expert’ that I don’t pay much attention to or put stock in.

I mean he’s right in this video about the drop off in quality wrt to our Coaching staff top to bottom.

But the way he speaks about it with such authority and so definitively…lol

Didn’t he JUST pick us to win the NC 14 days ago?

Lol

These guys are all the same and don’t know anything.
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We've known on here for a while that we just don't have the staff talent. That's really what it boils down to now. We have the player talent, we have the head coach, we just don't have the staff talent.
 
tusks_n_raider said:
He’s for a while been yet another ‘expert’ that I don’t pay much attention to or put stock in.

I mean he’s right in this video about the drop off in quality wrt to our Coaching staff top to bottom.

But the way he speaks about it with such authority and so definitively…lol

Didn’t he JUST pick us to win the NC 14 days ago?

Lol

These guys are all the same and don’t know anything.
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I know a lot of people like Pate. I didn't really know about him until recently and honestly I haven't really been a big fan.
 
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So, we have the best HC in college football history that most of the best players coming out of HS want to play for (based on recruiting history), but now this HC can't hire the right staff?

I mean, it may be an angle OR it might be the answer.
 
BamaMoon said:
So, we have the best HC in college football history that most of the best players coming out of HS want to play for (based on recruiting history), but now this HC can't hire the right staff?

I mean, it may be an angle OR it might be the answer.
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What was mentioned by Pate is that we don't have an allstar staff, but we have a top 10 staff. I can agree with that I guess. Still think we upgraded from last year.
 
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CB4 said:
This was the correct call as weird as it may have seemed.
First as it relates to a “pass”’ -the center snap (whether under center or In shotgun) is considered a backwards “pass”-same as a lateral.
So why wasn’t it considered a “fumble”? It really is excepted for one thing - possession. Same as catching a punt, if the receiver doesn’t gain possession (ex: ball goes straight his arms to the ground) by rule it considered a “muff”. The snap went straight through Ewers hands.

In the play on Saturday, because it was a fourth down play, if Ewers would have taken the snap, possessed the ball, then dropped it, by rule ONLY he could have picked it up and advanced it. Because it was a “muff” of a backwards pass (center snap) , it was considered a “free ball” and it could be recovered and advanced by anyone, which is what the running back did to gain the first down. If Ewers would actually taken the snap, gained control then fumbled it, when the running back picked it up and advanced it, it would have been returned to the spot where the running back touched it and ruled “dead” and Alabama would have taken over on downs. In essence if you think about it, Texas got “rewarded” on a botched center snap.

The rule was implemented specifically to try to prevent a player on 4th down from the attempt to fumble a ball forward to a teammate or out of bounds ahead of the chains to gain a first down. (See: “The Holy Roller” - Oakland vs San Diego AFC Playoffs).
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Don't forget the Fumblerooski that OU and Nebraska made famous. loved that play...
 
AWRTR said:
TR is boxed into a corner. I know some have thrown some blame his way, but I am not ready to do that. He doesn't have a QB that can run any offense. It's like Jalen Hurts at his earliest levels of development on steroids. Jalen may not have been able to read the whole field, so they gave him half field reads and he didn't make hardly any mistakes as far as turnovers. He would take off or throw the ball away. I got so sick of run to the right sideline and throw the ball out of bounds, but after years in the program he improved drastically, and has improved so much he's elite in the NFL. Milroe is a third year guy that hasn't improved at all.
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There are some similarities between Milroe and Hurts, but in many ways they are opposites. The problem with Hurts was that he was so conservative he wouldn’t throw the ball at all. It was frustrating, but he wasn’t reckless with the ball.

Also, he played well as a freshman for most of the year. It was only after teams figured out he had to have a wide open receiver before he would throw it that he started having problems. Then they just loaded the box to stop him running. Still, most teams didn’t have the athletes to stop him, but when we got into the playoffs, he struggled. The same thing repeated itself in 2017 with the better teams giving him trouble.

Of course he had Lane coaching him as a freshman, and the defense was good enough back then to cover up a lot of issues. Milroe doesn’t have those advantages.
 
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editder said:
There are some similarities between Milroe and Hurts, but in many ways they are opposites. The problem with Hurts was that he was so conservative he wouldn’t throw the ball at all. It was frustrating, but he wasn’t reckless with the ball.

Also, he played well as a freshman for most of the year. It was only after teams figured out he had to have a wide open receiver before he would throw it that he started having problems. Then they just loaded the box to stop him running. Still, most teams didn’t have the athletes to stop him, but when we got into the playoffs, he struggled. The same thing repeated itself in 2017 with the better teams giving him trouble.

Of course he had Lane coaching him as a freshman, and the defense was good enough back then to cover up a lot of issues. Milroe doesn’t have those advantages.
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Hurts is a cool and level headed guy that can handle pressure. He never got rattled by mistakes. Milroe just doesn’t have that disposition, he may be the direct opposite of Hurts.
 
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Cruloc said:
While I do see your points here.....

One of those TD's brought back should have been an interception, should have never been thrown. Was only a penalty because Milroe tucked the ball and ran so his linemen thought he was running. But yes, no penalty there and we would have caught a break.

That wheel route throw fits into those intermediate throws that Milroe has trouble with. He missed that throw by a foot or more. Unfortunately the kid just doesn't have touch on short throws.

The fumble down the sideline should have been reviewed. The fumble on the 4th down play wasn't a fumble because Ewers never touched it, which made it a bad snap.........I remember thinking, but you still can't advance a fumbled snap on 4th down. Welp, I was wrong. What a fluke play.

My optimism with Milroe as QB went out the window vs Texas. Good kid, but a basket case out there. You can tell he's not confident and that permeates throughout that offense.
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Don't forget, there was also another throw to Jase, down close, that if Jalen leads him it's a TD. Instead, the ball was behind him and Jase had to fall down to make the catch. Whatever, everything went right for Texas, not much went right for BAMA. We still have a lot to play for. I'm interested now in seeing how we respond going forward. Roll Tide!!
 
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Krymsonman said:
Don't forget, there was also another throw to Jase, down close, that if Jalen leads him it's a TD. Instead, the ball was behind him and Jase had to fall down to make the catch. Whatever, everything went right for Texas, not much went right for BAMA. We still have a lot to play for. I'm interested now in seeing how we respond going forward. Roll Tide!!
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A lot of missed opportunities that would have changed the direction and possibly the outcome of the game.
 
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