News Article: A Mathematician predicts our current political situation and maybe the next Civil War?

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The Russian soldier 1941
The ones that the officers had to threaten to shoot in the back if they retreated, and the ones that the US armed and equipped because Stalin couldn't do it. I'll give you that the T-34 was a fine machine, but not exactly something I could pick up at Wal-mart.
 

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The far right is just as dangerous. They just aren't the ones trying to insert themselves into a legitimate protest movement at the moment. Give them a minute they will too. What institutions do you feel have been invaded by the far right?
Well for 1 thing our legal system. Trump has been actively trying to undermine our legal process and has tried to weaken the federal statutes to suit his own needs.

Another is our elections
 

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The ones that the officers had to threaten to shoot in the back if they retreated, and the ones that the US armed and equipped because Stalin couldn't do it. I'll give you that the T-34 was a fine machine, but not exactly something I could pick up at Wal-mart.
The ones that killed 3/4ths of Hitler’s Wehrmacht.
 
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Well for 1 thing our legal system. Trump has been actively trying to undermine our legal process and has tried to weaken the federal statutes to suit his own needs.

Another is our elections
How specifically has he undermined the legal process? He has appointed a large number of judges, and several haven't worked out for him LOL. He loses almost every legal challenge.
 

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The ones that killed 3/4ths of Hitler’s Wehrmacht.
The Russian people are some the toughest people to have ever lived, but you didn't answer the question, and they were shooting american bullets and driving american trucks. Here is a quote:

"Now they say that the allies never helped us, but it can't be denied that the Americans gave us so many goods without which we wouldn't have been able to form our reserves and continue the war," Soviet General Georgy Zhukov said after the end of WWII.

"We didn’t have explosives, gunpowder. We didn’t have anything to charge our rifle cartridges with. The Americans really saved us with their gunpowder and explosives. And how much sheet steel they gave us! How could we have produced our tanks without American steel? But now they make it seem as if we had an abundance of all that. Without American trucks we wouldn’t have had anything to pull our artillery with."
 

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How specifically has he undermined the legal process? He has appointed a large number of judges, and several haven't worked out for him LOL. He loses almost every legal challenge.
I really don’t see how after a traitor accepts a guilty plea and all of the sudden there is not a prosecutor for his case because his friend is the President is anything but an attempt to undermine the legal process.
 

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I really don’t see how after a traitor accepts a guilty plea and all of the sudden there is not a prosecutor for his case because his friend is the President is anything but an attempt to undermine the legal process.
Rookie mistake. Shoulda found a Youtube video or 3. :cool:
 

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The far right is just as dangerous. They just aren't the ones trying to insert themselves into a legitimate protest movement at the moment. Give them a minute they will too. What institutions do you feel have been invaded by the far right?
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Arrested for conspiracy to kill anti-fascists. They are neo nazis:

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Notice the proud boys mask in the aspiring congressman's picture background.

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The base was attempting to form a terror network. The base is a far right neo nazi group.

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You have not been paying attention if you haven't seen all these things happening quite recently all around the country.
 
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One of the main issues is that our political elite have totally failed us.

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For someone who believes there are systematic and manufactured failures in the current system of governing you sure seem willing to go with the status quo over seeing if there might not be a better way.

Anything has got to be better than the banana republic that Trump, Barr, and McConnell are installing right now. Fundamentally I think you are falling into the standard false equivalency issue that many who favor maintaining their status and position over enduring a little discomfort for possible meaningful change.

Hiding behind the fear of the other, when the corruption and graft you know is no better in terms of actually having the potential of affecting large scale change and I think you know it. However holding ANTIFA up as the next great boogeyman version of socialism/Marxism/non-capitalism is really just a way of creating or stoking enough fear of the unknown that makes people in comfort feel not so bad when they decide to vote for DJT or decide to write in Saban as a protest vote because obviously Biden is so ering that no matter how bad DJT is he won’t hand the US to China on a platter.

Libertarianism is the modern day version of “I’ve got mine, you get yours.” Yet this is all while either ignoring the fact that there are entire segments the game is rigged against, or knowing it and not caring.

You and I will have to disagree on Chinese policy WRT the US. Fundamentally I believe US companies were willing to trade away future market share due to technological superiority for immediate profits at the cost of technological transfer. This is a fundamental issue with companies and their organization as CEOs are incentivized to improve the stock price at any cost, so long as they get their golden parachute. Leaving their successor to deal with the ramifications of their decisions. Thinking that the US government had the legal tools to tell companies that they couldn’t do what they wanted WRT their technology is one of the rights biggest lies.

Political change never comes without a bit of discomfort.
 

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I really don’t see how after a traitor accepts a guilty plea and all of the sudden there is not a prosecutor for his case because his friend is the President is anything but an attempt to undermine the legal process.
The state and federal government just outlast people. They have unlimited resources. They also told him they would go after his son. The guy took the plea to just make it stop. The original investigators wrote they didn't believe he lied and Strzok intervened to keep it going. He was a vehicle to get higher up the food chain. If you have any experience with the legal system you know that people take pleas because they could be charged with more stuff and going in front of a jury is always a gamble. Innocent people take plea deals for all these reasons. The state can just wear you down if they want to.
 
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The Russian people are some the toughest people to have ever lived, but you didn't answer the question, and they were shooting american bullets and driving american trucks. Here is a quote:

"Now they say that the allies never helped us, but it can't be denied that the Americans gave us so many goods without which we wouldn't have been able to form our reserves and continue the war," Soviet General Georgy Zhukov said after the end of WWII.

"We didn’t have explosives, gunpowder. We didn’t have anything to charge our rifle cartridges with. The Americans really saved us with their gunpowder and explosives. And how much sheet steel they gave us! How could we have produced our tanks without American steel? But now they make it seem as if we had an abundance of all that. Without American trucks we wouldn’t have had anything to pull our artillery with."
If Moscow or Leningrad were taken in 1941 then it’s more likely than not that Parliament forces Churchill to the peace table. The world should really be thankful that Hitler was an idiot and the Russians held the line in Moscow. The world could’ve been a much worse place had Moscow fallen before December 1941.

Again the Russian soldier in 1941 was a valuable resource for the world. Granted I know what you were talking about and it would taken more time than what it’s worth to find one product they produced that was of great benefit to the world.
 

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Arrested for conspiracy to kill anti-fascists. They are neo nazis:

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Notice the proud boys mask in the aspiring congressman's picture background.

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New Mexico:

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The base was attempting to form a terror network. The base is a far right neo nazi group.

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I just have to post the article for the hawaiian shirt crap:


You have not been paying attention if you haven't seen all these things happening quite recently all around the country.
Actually I have. The far right and far left will always rise to meet each other and normal people get caught in the crossfire. They are all evil. It's a smaller scale replay of Europe in the 1930's it was far left Marxist vs. far right fascists. It's a bad recipe.
 
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When I replied I had only read the first page. After I posted I read further, wow what a change of direction. Didn’t see that coming. So are we supposed to be pro-Confederacy so we won’t have a Marxist civil war led by the far left? 😂.
Honestly I don’t know anymore and I think I’m going to bow out of this because I’ve had my fill of talking about Marxist, Fascism,conspiracy theories, and what is in between for one thread.
 
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Arrested for conspiracy to kill anti-fascists. They are neo nazis:

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New Mexico:

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The base was attempting to form a terror network. The base is a far right neo nazi group.

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I just have to post the article for the hawaiian shirt crap:


You have not been paying attention if you haven't seen all these things happening quite recently all around the country.
I was listening to a guy the other day talking about this very thing. That as one side ramps up so will the other. You can argue who ramped up first or who is ramping up more, but two bad things can happen at the same time.
 

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Yet you hyperfocus on one and virtually ignore the other. I believe your point has been made. Over and over.
The reason I focused on it is because I was challenged on it, and told the far left isn't an issue. We all agree the far right is. Why would be go back and forth about something we agree on. neo nazis, proud boys, skin heads, groups that run trash websites like the daily stormer and storm front, and awful people like David Duke are all trash.
 
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The reason I focused on it is because I was challenged on it, and told the far left isn't an issue. We all agree the far right is. Why would be go back and forth about something we agree on. neo nazis, proud boys, skin heads, groups that run trash websites like the daily stormer and storm front, and awful people like David Duke are all trash.
You claimed they were not a present problem. Now you say they are. It's confusing to me, but it's also enough. Unless you have something new to add to the discussion...
 
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