After 13 games we're 9-4. Let's revisit our thoughts and outlook on Coach Kalen DeBoer

CoolBreeze

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I don't necessarily think that's true. It's easy to say now, but Saban wouldn't have gotten anything more out of Milroe than DeBoer did. You can point to last year, but we also had a much easier schedule last year. Aside from Texas and the Iron Bowl, our toughest games were at home. Also 2023 was kind of a down year for the SEC. This year, the SEC was as deep and good as it's been in several years. Saban probably finds a way to win the Vandy game, but we probably still lose to Tennessee, and maybe Georgia. Oklahoma probably would have still beaten us either way due to abysmal QB play, so we'd still be looking at 9-3. Without the Georgia win, there's a good chance we'd have been behind Miami, and maybe even Ole Miss, so we would've gotten left out anyways. I'd still much rather have it this way where we beat Georgia and lose to Vandy. I'd feel much worse about this season if our best win waa South Carolina. Missing the playoffs stings, but our ceiling was always going to be limited by our QB, so we weren't going to win the natty, anyways. All in all, I give DeBoer a B+ for this season, as it could have gone so much worse.
Well, it is all conjecture and speculation at this point except for one fact...how may 3 game losses did Nick have in the regular season? He would have willed us into the playoff and it probably would have been a win in Nashville. Regardless, I am not disappointed with our new coach. Heck, we could have had Norvell steering this thing off the rails. But we will need to be patient. Gonna take a minute for this coach to get this thing humming again.
 

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Well, it is all conjecture and speculation at this point except for one fact...how may 3 game losses did Nick have in the regular season? He would have willed us into the playoff and it probably would have been a win in Nashville. Regardless, I am not disappointed with our new coach. Heck, we could have had Norvell steering this thing off the rails. But we will need to be patient. Gonna take a minute for this coach to get this thing humming again.
For now I just want to have a good showing in the Bowl Game and finish 10-3

We haven’t failed to win at least 10 games since 2007.
 

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It's all about results.

I don't think anyone can consider a year you win an SEC championship or a National Championship anything other than a great year. So, that would be an A.

If you make the SEC championship or playoff, that would be a B. That's really the standard at Alabama.

It was an up and down season. He almost made the SEC championship and he almost made the playoff, so I'd have to give him a C.

I'm not happy with that though. I went 8 straight years without making a C on a report card so I'm not the type to be like yeah that's a good grade, because I expect better.
 

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Well there's obviously a reason he's not making a change. There's very little chance that reason is incompetence. So let's say we put Ty in during the Oklahoma game. Then what? This is a hostile environment, and the guy has never had any meaningful in game stats. Is it reasonable to expect much better than what we're getting? Probably not. All you're doing in that case is taking a gamle and possibly killing Ty's confidence. DeBoer really didn't have a choice, and some of that is on Saban. Saban didn't give Ty meaningful snaps, either. Remember, even Mac Jones struggled in his first start. I also think the scheme we installed this year is another reason why Ty never got a shot. Milroe can't run DeBoer 's offense, and by the same token, the other QBs aren't really adept at running the offense we tailor made for Milroe.
Mac lit up Arkansas in his first start.
 

TideEngineer08

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Year one, DeBoer did fine. If you read between the lines of some of the recent comments it was obvious this team was held together with shoestring and bubble gum after Saban left, and what he allowed to develop (and thus dumped into DeBoer's lap) with LANK certainly hindered what CKD could do.

I suspect we'll see a very different team next year as many of the 'problematic' faces will be gone.

It will be interesting to see if those who are judging him so harshly will actually admit they jumped the gun when that happens.

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I may be being too harsh but I do believe he's capable of A+. I don't think he got close to that this year, but I do most certainly agree with you that he was not handed a stable ship to pilot. Not at all.
 
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Still very happy. Reason to be excited. The recruiting class answered my only real questions.

Gotta get better on the road but thats been the case for a few years now.

Big fan of wommack fwiw, outside of that vandy game anyway.

If I had a wishlist it might start with a new OC and/or ST coordinator.
I’ll second the OC thing. I believe he’s still out there running Milroe into the teeth of that OU defense.
 

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As far as the Mac and Milroe thing, I think a big part of the issue both in the Auburn game with Mac and with Milroe comes down to over-reliance on the quarterback. You look great when they play great, they throw a couple of picks? It can get really ugly.

They had Mac throwing on something like and goal from the 3 with Najee Harris having a big game. I'd say the lesson was learned in 2020 though, Najee went from 13 touchdowns to 26. Why take the risk?
 

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It's because we beat those good teams you mention that the Vandy and OU losses are considered "bad losses". They weren't bad teams but they were worse teams than the ones we beat so we should have beat them as well. We were certainly capable. In the preseason I predicted we'd have a 9-3 season but I didn't expect this. If someone had told me before the season that we'd beat Georgia and LSU then I would have predicted an 11-1 season. I can't really say those good wins we had outweighed those 2 losses because those good wins weren't enough to get us in the playoff but those 2 losses were certainly enough to keep us out. What you say about it still being a decent season would have been true if we as Alabama fans would have gone into the season without any real playoff expectations.
So, what you are saying is that if the CFPC had not been gutless in choosing a team with a relatively pathetic resume from an almost garbage conference over a team with a top 5 resume and consensus # 5-7 by most objective measures, a team from easily the toughest conference in football (IMO, the SEC having one of the best reg seasons in college football history (13 bowl teams - 7 teams 9-3 or better 2 more 8-4.) - the # of losses of the best team, whom Alabama beat with a masterful offensive game plan, was 2. No one had fewer and Alabama had the 2nd toughest schedule of the top 9 teams, only UGA’s was tougher - criminally tough given by one of the worst commissioners in college football), then you would have considered the season a success. But since the Committee bowed to public pressure and gagged, Alabama is a failure.

Your logic is not logical.
 

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Mac and Waddle are the only reason the game was even close. Our defense couldn’t stop them.
We’ll also consider that the refs made two huge calls that changed the game and both went Auburn’s way.

1) The only holding call all night was on Alabama on what would’ve been a 50 yard touchdown

2) Auburn ran out of time towards the end of the half or would have if the refs let it play out. But the refs allowed a review and it allowed Auburn to put their FG team on the field whereas that never happens if the play would’ve happened naturally.
 

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Candy had a Garcia game. Every 10-20 years those happen BUT 3 points at Oklahoma was inexcusable. That big of a flop in a must win scenario was very disappointing. Hoping for a bowl victory to reach 10 wins and immediately begin preparing for next year. Roll Tide
 
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Candy had a Garcia game. Every 10-20 years those happen BUT 3 points at Oklahoma was inexcusable. That big of a flop in a must win scenario was very disappointing. Hoping for a bowl victory to reach 10 wins and immediately begin preparing for next year. Roll Tide
I still wonder how the team might have responded if the refs hadn't stolen that TD at the start of the 4th.
 

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I still wonder how the team might have responded if the refs hadn't stolen that TD at the start of the 4th.
And still no official comment from the SEC office or SEC head of officiating. Only thing that was said by CKD was “there was communication with him from SEC office but we have moved on”.

This is the kind of crap now that infuriates me. Years back, at least we got an explanations (as lame as it was sometimes) and what corrective actions will be taken. Now we don’t even get that. Just “go away”.

The premier conference in college football, and those running it don’t feel the need of accountability to the fans? We deserve better.