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[bamabake]

it doesn't exactly demand a long-term commitment to answer. it took over twenty four hours for anyone to really touch that hypothetical question bc it required imagining yourself in homosexual situations--that's a pretty powerful stigma. on the other hand there's apparently a best-selling book by a respected christian writer urging christian men to act more like action movie warriors. i don't disagree that willpower is valuable, i disagree with how it's spent.

Well you totally disregarded the content of my comment. The hypothetical is a waste of time to entertain for 1 minute much less 24 hours because the premise is fallable. Willpower for animals is unconcious when applied at all. It is a human concept, and human alone.

 

[blackumbrella]

Well you totally disregarded the content of my comment. The hypothetical is a waste of time to entertain for 1 minute much less 24 hours because the premise is fallable. Willpower for animals is unconcious when applied at all. It is a human concept, and human alone.

i didn't disregard your content. i said i agreed with it. and the fact that you think the question is a 'waste of time' is the whole point. re-read my post.

 

[bamabake]

Originally Posted by bamabake
As opposed to my dishonest response. It was nice of NBF to actually take the time. I would add though that it isnt that is how man differs most from other animals, it is that man is apart from the animals with awareness and a concience and a soul. Animals have no choice. Men do.



it doesn't exactly demand a long-term commitment to answer. it took over twenty four hours for anyone to really touch that hypothetical question bc it required imagining yourself in homosexual situations--that's a pretty powerful stigma. on the other hand there's apparently a best-selling book by a respected christian writer urging christian men to act more like action movie warriors. i don't disagree that willpower is valuable, i disagree with how it's spent.





I would add though that it isnt that is how man differs most from other animals, it is that man is apart from the animals with awareness and a concience and a soul. Animals have no choice. Men do.


is the content you disregarded.

 

[blackumbrella]

"I would add though that it isnt that is how man differs most from other animals, it is that man is apart from the animals with awareness and a concience and a soul. Animals have no choice. Men do."


is the content you disregarded.

ah. i see. that's what i was addressing when i mentioned willpower. our self-knowledge and self-control seem well beyond those of any animal i know of.

 

[bamabake]

ah. i see. that's what i was addressing when i mentioned willpower. our self-knowledge and self-control seem well beyond those of any animal i know of.

Here is your quote:


Originally Posted by blackumbrella
it doesn't exactly demand a long-term commitment to answer. it took over twenty four hours for anyone to really touch that hypothetical question bc it required imagining yourself in homosexual situations--that's a pretty powerful stigma. on the other hand there's apparently a best-selling book by a respected christian writer urging christian men to act more like action movie warriors. i don't disagree that willpower is valuable, i disagree with how it's spent.



I fail to see :

that's what i was addressing when i mentioned willpower. our self-knowledge and self-control seem well beyond those of any animal i know of.

I dont think I could even see that between the lines.

 

[blackumbrella]

Here is your quote:


Originally Posted by blackumbrella
it doesn't exactly demand a long-term commitment to answer. it took over twenty four hours for anyone to really touch that hypothetical question bc it required imagining yourself in homosexual situations--that's a pretty powerful stigma. on the other hand there's apparently a best-selling book by a respected christian writer urging christian men to act more like action movie warriors. i don't disagree that willpower is valuable, i disagree with how it's spent.



I fail to see :

that's what i was addressing when i mentioned willpower. our self-knowledge and self-control seem well beyond those of any animal i know of.

I dont think I could even see that between the lines.

okee doke. you said something about humans being volitional and whereas animal behavior is more instictual human behavior can be guided by rational choices as well. i agreed and then introduced the term willpower to discuss it further. i don't see how you fail to see.

 

[bamabake]

okee doke. you said something about humans being volitional and whereas animal behavior is more instictual human behavior can be guided by rational choices as well. i agreed and then introduced the term willpower to discuss it further. i don't see how you fail to see.

Without going back, sigh, I think you are refering to something BL said. It matters not.

 

[blackumbrella]

Without going back, sigh, I think you are refering to something BL said. It matters not.

here's where you said it

As opposed to my dishonest response. It was nice of NBF to actually take the time. I would add though that it isnt that is how man differs most from other animals, it is that man is apart from the animals with awareness and a concience and a soul. Animals have no choice. Men do.

here's where you quoted yourself as having said it

Originally Posted by bamabake
As opposed to my dishonest response. It was nice of NBF to actually take the time. I would add though that it isnt that is how man differs most from other animals, it is that man is apart from the animals with awareness and a concience and a soul. Animals have no choice. Men do.



it doesn't exactly demand a long-term commitment to answer. it took over twenty four hours for anyone to really touch that hypothetical question bc it required imagining yourself in homosexual situations--that's a pretty powerful stigma. on the other hand there's apparently a best-selling book by a respected christian writer urging christian men to act more like action movie warriors. i don't disagree that willpower is valuable, i disagree with how it's spent.





I would add though that it isnt that is how man differs most from other animals, it is that man is apart from the animals with awareness and a concience and a soul. Animals have no choice. Men do.


is the content you disregarded.

 

[bamabake]

here's where you said it




here's where you quoted yourself as having said it

okee doke. you said something about humans being volitional and whereas animal behavior is more instictual human behavior can be guided by rational choices as well. i agreed and then introduced the term willpower to discuss it further. i don't see how you fail to see.

i don't disagree that willpower is valuable, i disagree with how it's spent.

If this is where yhou say you agree with me, then ok. I still stand by my comment right after re you disregarding the comment:


I would add though that it isnt that is how man differs most from other animals, it is that man is apart from the animals with awareness and a concience and a soul. Animals have no choice. Men do.

How willpower is spent is relavent with the fact that man has awareness (and therefore choice, or willpower) and animals dont, escapes me.

This exercise is stupid.


peace.