Maybe. If I was Tua though I would be trying to read the tea leaves to make sure I had a better than even shot of winning the job (I think he does). Even if you don't start somewhere else in 2018 you at least get a year to learn the offense before starting so you aren't just shoved into a new offense and asked to start right away (see what happened to Coker for example). Again, this is just how I would look at it if I was him. I wouldn't want to waste another year sitting behind a player that I think I am better than and isn't going to leave early for the draft.
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Maybe. If I was Tua though I would be trying to read the tea leaves to make sure I had a better than even shot of winning the job (I think he does). Even if you don't start somewhere else in 2018 you at least get a year to learn the offense before starting so you aren't just shoved into a new offense and asked to start right away (see what happened to Coker for example). Again, this is just how I would look at it if I was him. I wouldn't want to waste another year sitting behind a player that I think I am better than and isn't going to leave early for the draft.
I doubt it's on Tua's mind much right now. Only way he considers transferring is if Jalen has a night and day improvement and just simply passes him over the summer (which I would say is extremely unlikely) or if CNS chooses to start Jalen over Tua, when he thinks he is better and the team could be better with him.
Instead, the more likely scenario IMO is if Tua takes over the starting role and gets the majority of meaningful reps and continues to improve (like so many think he will), then at the end of next year Jalen might consider using the transfer rule for graduates in 2019. If he graduates in Spring or Summer of 2019 (which he should be on tract for) he could transfer and start at another school in the fall of that year.
Agreed, and he would still have two years to play one, so a season somewhere to learn a new system if necessary. Jalen would start right now at most schools, even with his passing weaknesses. His athletic ability at the QB position is a game changer.
I was more of saying how I would be thinking if I was Tua. I have no idea what Tua is personally thinking. I also agree that it is much more likely that he wins the job. It was more of "this is the situation where I would transfer or at least consider transferring if I were Tua" not really commenting on the likelihood of that scenario.
Yeah, but does that change if Tua doesn't lose the starting job until September? I seriously doubt that he will know until then, and I also seriously doubt that his parents are going to support a September transfer.
I think that Blake Barnett scarred a lot of Alabama fans. While talented players want to play, most are reasonable, and those with strong families are not likely to jump ship the way that Barnett did.
Right, that's why I would try to read the tea leaves. I would guess that by the end of spring he will have a decent idea of where the competition stands (though his hand injury may throw that for a loop). Fair point about his parents though. Regardless, I seriously doubt it will be an issue because I would bet a lot of money on him winning the job anyway. And, I think it will likely be clear to the players sooner rather than later who the better QB is and who is going to win the job.
Forgot which media member I heard recently say he believes Jalen and/or Tua will push the situation before fall camp in order to get a better read on the situation.
Then I hope that Mac Jones has progressed as much as some reports suggest, because Saban doesn't respond well to pressure for playing time by players.
I doubt that would turn out well...lol. Jalen is the only one who might would even want to try that.
Jmho but as long as Tua keeps doing what he’s been doing in practice he will be the Starter.
It’s not like there’s just a little separation between them. Tua is significantly better than Jalen by a large margin.
This. Not to bash any poster and with all due respect to everyone's opinion, I just do not see everyone assuming the job is Tua's to lose. Not going with a proven, trusted starter is counter to CNS's MO.
With all due respect go rewatch the BCSNCG again and notice how much more potent and difficult to defend the offense was from the 1st half to the 2nd. What changed between halves??
We all agree with that, but remember that Saban yanked Tua for the FG setup play because Tua wasn't situationally aware at the time and Saban didn't trust him to get it right. Saban knew that he needed Tua in there to make a come-back, but he also trusts Jalen a lot more.
Going into spring practices, that is where they stood. Each has a chance to move the needle.
He's not disagreeing with that, he's just predicting a more difficult battle based on Saban's past behavior. It's not based on what happened on the field.
I fully expect this "battle" to last into the season just from a political point of view of making the players and the fans and media believe that Jalen has a legit chance to start and keep him around. Even if Tua is a mile ahead I'd blow smoke at Jalen until game 3 and then permanently bench him.
I think Gray has a perfectly legit point regarding Saban's MO.
I think Saban's goal is to keep both quarterbacks, with one being the primary starter and the other being more of a traditional backup. I simply cannot picture Saban wanting a two quarterback system. It always sounds good in theory, especially when you've got two talented athletes. But rarely does it work out on the field. I don't see this case being any different. I think Saban is playing politics to ensure to keep both qb's on campus for the upcoming season.
The other factor is rhythm and timing between the other players and both quarterbacks. Success of plays is largely determined by chemistry and timing. Which would be very, very hard to obtain and maintain running a two quarterback system.
The other factor is rhythm and timing between the other players and both quarterbacks. Success of plays is largely determined by chemistry and timing. Which would be very, very hard to obtain and maintain running a two quarterback system.
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No I mean I fully understand that ‘politically’ the QB contest won’t be called until the season starts. But my view is that in reality there is no way Jalen can outplay/outperform Tua.
I want there to be a competition because it will push both guys but if it’s truely a fair competition there is just no way Jalen can beat Tua.
The skill difference between the two is gigantic. We’ve all seen it.... the players have seen it... you can’t realistically put the toothpaste back in the tube here.
It’s Tua job to lose.
I was under the impression this was about wanted to put a QB under center for that play and Tua had not been used to that near as much as Jalen. CNS hedging his bet that Jalen would be safer to handle the exchange than Tua.
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