Alabama QBs in 2024

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Decision making is where Milroe HAS TO improve. The ONLY thing that is somewhat alarming to me is how CNS and CTR stopped trying to teach him and give him opportunities to learn the RPO exchange. They literally reached a point where they took that away from him and predetermined what he was to do. That is very concerning to me that they'd reach a point where they basically said "Okay, you're not getting this and showing no signs of getting it so we're taking it away from you". That's what concerns me because reading coverages pre snap and in plays is harder.

I think there was a belief that he may have reached his ceiling and the safest option was letting the defense win the game.

There were alot of things that I got concerned about on offense and probably the biggest one was the lack of opportunities for Haynes to run. He by far was the most talented back on the roster and our lack of a running game was a huge detriment to our offensive production. I still think had we had a better running game then people probably wouldn’t be as gung-ho to force Milroe to beat them.
 
Last year did a number on our fan base's psyche.

As much as we all loved CNS, the way the QB situation was handled and this talk of "the team choosing the QB" raised a ton of questions, some of which, that'll probably never be answered.
The above is VERY possible. Milroe confuses me quite a bit.

He is a big, talented player but his mechanics are less than stellar imo.

He is a good, religious person with a great personality, yet; his screaming "Give me the mf Heisman" after the Auburn game was a bit over the top. Even given that he is a likable young man.

He is a great runner but nobody who can run like that should take that many sacks. His decision making is slow, very slow.

To make a long story short, I am spoiled. Hurts, Tua, Mac, and Bryce were GREAT. Milroe is not imo. Could he have won it all with Najee, Davonta, Waddle, and Metchie? Possibly but I am not so sure.

I know nothing about the transfer from Washington. I liked what little I saw of Simpson but he obviously didn't have time to develop. We had a very good defense last season and a good ground game. The OTs (especially Proctor) were less than I expected but the guards were just fine and I refuse to blame McLaughlin for EVERY missed snap. Some of that was on Milroe imo. The receivers would have had better numbers with a more accurate QB. My point is that Milroe had enough talent around him. What I WILL give Milroe is that Rees was in WAY over his head imo.

In all, I am really hoping for a true, open competition at QB this season. The players and the fans deserve as much.
 
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I agree that Milroe has some serious limitations, but one thing he didn't do was turn the ball over a lot.

Regarding the discussions about starting a Freshman at QB, it's highly likely that the amount of turnovers and bad decisions a Freshman would make at this level of football would outweigh Milroe's limitations at the position.

Again, I agree Milroe is limited, but I'd rather scream at the tv over a sack than an INT on almost any play.
 
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I agree that Milroe has some serious limitations, but one thing he didn't do was turn the ball over a lot.
Maybe not with ints or fumbles, but Bama sure did find themselves in a lot of 'x and long' plays last year after taking a massive sack, resulting in FAR more punts. While not the same as turnovers, his sacks sure stopped a lot of drives.

Punts per game (national ranking):
2020: 123rd
2021: 112th
2022: 104th
2023: 53rd
 
I agree that Milroe has some serious limitations, but one thing he didn't do was turn the ball over a lot.

Regarding the discussions about starting a Freshman at QB, it's highly likely that the amount of turnovers and bad decisions a Freshman would make at this level of football would outweigh Milroe's limitations at the position.

Again, I agree Milroe is limited, but I'd rather scream at the tv over a sack than an INT on almost any play.
Milroe produces collateral damage, as in playmaking wide receivers and tight ends leave the program because they can’t be featured in a one read offense, the quarterback would rather take a sack than throw to the middle of the field, and easy to make completions aren’t so easy.

Bond was the first read, so defenses worked to take him away. Niblack was in the middle, so he was ignored mostly.

To keep elite playmakers you need a quarterback who distributes the ball and gets his recognition with passing yards, not a quarterback who has this many limitations in the passing game.
 
I agree that Milroe has some serious limitations, but one thing he didn't do was turn the ball over a lot.

Regarding the discussions about starting a Freshman at QB, it's highly likely that the amount of turnovers and bad decisions a Freshman would make at this level of football would outweigh Milroe's limitations at the position.

Again, I agree Milroe is limited, but I'd rather scream at the tv over a sack than an INT on almost any play.
Sorry bro, but I can't agree with that.

It's been beat like a dead horse, but a QB MUST make some throws into tight windows to run an effective passing offense. JM's stats (lack of TOs) were mostly based on his unwillingness to make the kind of throws the offense demanded of him to spread the ball around to our playmakers.

I'd rather see a few more INTs if it means a lot more TDs.
 
The above is VERY possible. Milroe confuses me quite a bit.

He is a big, talented player but his mechanics are less than stellar imo.

He is a good, religious person with a great personality, yet; his screaming "Give me the mf Heisman" after the Auburn game was a bit over the top. Even given that he is a likable young man.

He is a great runner but nobody who can run like that should take that many sacks. His decision making is slow, very slow.

To make a long story short, I am spoiled. Hurts, Tua, Mac, and Bryce were GREAT. Milroe is not imo. Could he have won it all with Najee, Davonta, Waddle, and Metchie? Possibly but I am not so sure.

I know nothing about the transfer from Washington. I liked what little I saw of Simpson but he obviously didn't have time to develop. We had a very good defense last season and a good ground game. The OTs (especially Proctor) were less than I expected but the guards were just fine and I refuse to blame McLaughlin for EVERY missed snap. Some of that was on Milroe imo. The receivers would have had better numbers with a more accurate QB. My point is that Milroe had enough talent around him. What I WILL give Milroe is that Rees was in WAY over his head imo.

In all, I am really hoping for a true, open competition at QB this season. The players and the fans deserve as much.

All good stuff, but I disagree about Rees being on over his head. I think the did an amazing job trying to work around JMs limitations. There were lots, and lots, and lots of plays the JM just didn't execute. Everything from our traditional pro-style, to some spread concepts, to simplified single side of field flood routes (post-bye week) and more. He really tried just about everything to find what JM could do consistently in the passing game, but the limitations were just to significant.
 
Great thing is with DeBoer and Grubbs we won’t have to worry about a “fair qb competition” as so many have said about last year. If Milroe wins the starting job over the redshirt freshman that they brought in from the portal then they think he gives us the best shot to win games. If the redshirt freshman beats Milroe out then we have a great redshirt freshman who has a year under the system so hopefully that will limit the “freshman mistakes.” If someone else (Simpson, Lonergan, Carruth) emerges as the qb then great, take the bull by the horns and lead us to a great season.

Milroe will have the advantage of game experience, Mack will have the advantage of knowing the system, and Simpson, Lonergan, and Carruth will have the most work to overcome but no one knows who will win the job or when it will be won. Who knows we may have another transfer come in the next portal window.

I have no clue who will win the starting job (and neither does anyone else) but I could really care less about it because the coaches will choose what they think gives us the best shot to win. So IMO let it be and stand behind whoever they choose.

A very wise man posted on here years ago, recruits and their families read our boards so if you don’t have anything positive to say about them don’t say anything at all because it can come back to bite us. (This was from a thread of a player wavering on a commitment) in this day of transfer portal we should add players and players families read our boards as well and apply the same principles IMO.

I am not trying to get a debate started and I’m not going to debate anyone about this I’m just saying let’s stand together and support DeBoer and whatever decisions he makes about whatever and whoever not just in the qb competition.

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Roll Tide Roll!!!
 
All good stuff, but I disagree about Rees being on over his head. I think the did an amazing job trying to work around JMs limitations. There were lots, and lots, and lots of plays the JM just didn't execute. Everything from our traditional pro-style, to some spread concepts, to simplified single side of field flood routes (post-bye week) and more. He really tried just about everything to find what JM could do consistently in the passing game, but the limitations were just to significant.

The camera shot (early in the season) with Rees' face in his hands during a game told me what the problem was, and it wasn't him.
 
The beauty of this is that each guy gets a new start with fresh eyes and I think that Grubb/DeBoer are so far ahead of the last few offensive coordinators that we have had that they will see things the others missed and will be better able to determine who fits their schemes better.
 
Sorry bro, but I can't agree with that.

It's been beat like a dead horse, but a QB MUST make some throws into tight windows to run an effective passing offense. JM's stats (lack of TOs) were mostly based on his unwillingness to make the kind of throws the offense demanded of him to spread the ball around to our playmakers.

I'd rather see a few more INTs if it means a lot more TDs.
I guess it depends on how many INTs and where/when they are thrown.
 
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Maybe not with ints or fumbles, but Bama sure did find themselves in a lot of 'x and long' plays last year after taking a massive sack, resulting in FAR more punts. While not the same as turnovers, his sacks sure stopped a lot of drives.

Punts per game (national ranking):
2020: 123rd
2021: 112th
2022: 104th
2023: 53rd
Depends on where the INTs occur...and if we're comparing INTs with punts, then logically most (or a large percentage) of those INTs instead of punts would be the kind that put the opposing team in great field position.

I'd rather kick the ball away than turn it over at the 50.
 
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The beauty of this is that each guy gets a new start with fresh eyes and I think that Grubb/DeBoer are so far ahead of the last few offensive coordinators that we have had that they will see things the others missed and will be better able to determine who fits their schemes better.
IF Milroe is really as horrible at reading the field and making decisions as many believe (and there's plenty of evidence that's the case) then he likely doesn't have much chance of winning the starting job in KD's offense unless he makes magical leaps in that area between now and the fall.

Heck, he may be in the portal after spring practice.
 
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Depends on where the INTs occur...and if we're comparing INTs with punts, then logically most (or a large percentage) of those INTs instead of punts would be the kind that put the opposing team in great field position.

I'd rather kick the ball away than turn it over at the 50.
Of course, but the point is Milroe caused a LOT of drives to stall by taking sacks. Certainly a punt is preferred over a turnover, but the numbers don't lie - Bama left a LOT of points on the field last season due to sacks.
 
Of course, but the point is Milroe caused a LOT of drives to stall by taking sacks. Certainly a punt is preferred over a turnover, but the numbers don't lie - Bama left a LOT of points on the field last season due to sacks.
The opening offensive play in every game seemed the same...a pass that ended up in a 5 yard sack.
 
The opening offensive play in every game seemed the same...a pass that ended up in a 5 yard sack.

We had a hard enough time finally getting the OL and their pass protection to get better, but when it did then we had Milroe holding the ball too long in the backfield taking drive-killing sacks.
 
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