Another Sip Opinion- The REAL Reason Kiffin Left UT

Crimson Speed

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I really think its much more simple than that. Kiffin came to UT cause that was the best paycheck he could find at the time. He left cause it was the EASY road. Anybody that buys in to the smoke he's blowin deserves what they get. He has no genuine feeling about anything. Heck, when his wife gets a few wrinkles he'll probably be lookin for an upgrade out there in hollywood.
I agree with you. Kiffin is back in LA because he is one of their "Golden Boys" and he loves the left coast. Same goes for his wife. So, it makes sense for him to prefer the California lifestyle to Rocky Top. The problem is that Kiffin will leave USC (and he will leave) with a greatly diminished reputation. This will be the stop that destroys his head coaching career.

What still amazes me is that how Hamiltion got sucked into believing what this guy was spewing. There has never been any substance in his history, so Hamilton really rolled the dice on this one. As evidence, I still can't believe how Kiffin brushed off Frank Beamer when they met at mid field after their bowl game. Total lack of class on his part and evidence he is a spoiled brat.
 

bodiddle

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Gotta say that I have lost a ton of respect for Monte Kiffin in all of this. He messed up somewhere in raising that boy of his.

Me too. You would think that Monte would have let at least insisted that Lane inform Reaves, his daughter-in-law's brother, what he was doing. Scab said that Reaves heard about it on tv.
 

JeffAtlanta

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Me too. You would think that Monte would have let at least insisted that Lane inform Reaves, his daughter-in-law's brother, what he was doing. Scab said that Reaves heard about it on tv.
I seriously doubt that Reaves wasn't informed by his sister.

Reaves is probably just circulating that story so he will seem like an outsider and oblivious to what was going on so he can hold on to his job.
 

TRU

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Re: Opinion - The reason USC hired Kiffin

But why hire the recruiting coordinator who orchestrated the Reggie Bush scheme that U$C is about to get punished for? Kitten and ogre were both there during the time in question and U$C hires them back? ***?
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I think that U$C looked at what happened to Bama when the cooperated with the NCAA and when the NCAA came knocking at their door, decided to take the opposite track. No cooperation, no respect, no nothing. Hiring Kiffie and the Ogre was just another lifted middle finger to the NCAA. We'll see how the NCAA responds. But if they just slap the Trojans on the wrist, I can promise you that every other program, when approached by the NCAA in the future, will tell them to put their investigation where the sun don't shine.
It's put up or shut up time for the NCAA. They either have to hammer U$C or come off looking like a bully that will back down when challenged. Which I think they are.
 

IH8Orange

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There's really no reason why Kiffin needs to coach.

If he can recruit top athletes to USC, stay out of trouble with the NCAA and hire top-level assistants, he'll win there. USC just can overwhelm the other PAC-10 schools with their combination of financing, tradition and environment.

Kiffin just needs to be the CEO-type coach and focus on managing a talented staff.

Of course, his personality is likely his worst enemy. He seems like a meddler and he doesn't appear to respect the authority of the NCAA. Those two things will torpedo his chances of success if he doesn't recognize that now is the time to grow up.
 

JDCrimson

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Gotta say that I have lost a ton of respect for Monte Kiffin in all of this. He messed up somewhere in raising that boy of his.
Yeah, I gotta agree. I have seen lots of posts on this board talking about how much people respect Monte. But I am having a hard time respecting anyone who is responsible for raising such a toolbag.
 

dave12

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I'll repeat....then he shouldn't have accepted the UT job. They expected a rebuilding plan. He did a below average job for one year, took all the assistants, cost them a a large part of their recruiting class....

I have a hard time believing that anyone can even think about siding with Kiffin here...

He is a total brat selfish scum bag who has made Al Davis look like the most prophetic and truthful man in the history of football.

Think about that.

sip
I'd have to agree with that Sip.
And i don't like Kiffin, UT, or Al Davis.



RTR:biga2:
 

CoastGhost

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Re: Opinion - The reason USC hired Kiffin

The real question is why did USC, who in theory could cherry pick a coach from all but a handful of programs, choose Kiffin?

Opinion: This is their Mike Shula hire.
Probably accurate. USC knows they have five real bad years coming so they looked around for a slime ball who could take the trip around the bowl and down the hole while they spend those five years doing a real coach search. Meanwhile, there's a whole lot of cosmic re-alignment going on. :biggrin2:
 

Hal Bennett

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It seems to have been understood by Baptist church people that a preacher is considered a kid until he hits age thirty-five. Then and only then will most boards of deacons listen to any suggestions he has.

There are of course exceptions, but many people don't really get their feet on the ground until their mid to late thirties. Many people nowadays make career changes, and age thirty-five or thereabouts seems to be a common time to do this. If you look into people's career changes about that time, you are apt to see a different person from the one that pursued something for years they weren't comfortable with or that they just got tired of doing. Perhaps the person had been doing something Mama wanted him to do in the first place, and then he decided in his thirties to do what HE wanted to do.

If I were a football coach in my early thirties, had been hired by Al Davis to coach the Oakland Raiders, then had been fired by him, and then this Tennessee job opened up, chances are great that I'm taking that job. Then, "when Mama called" for me to go back home, particularly if, as Sip says, things were looking tough at Tennessee, then I would go back home.

Of course, a lot of ex-coaches wind up selling insurance. That is, if they didn't make enough money coaching. If Kiffin decides one day that "my parents were the ones who wanted me to coach anyway," then he may retire to a beach house at Malibu before he is forty.
 

ontopp

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Re: Opinion - The reason USC hired Kiffin

No, not at all. I'm just saying that, if he's on the payroll and the NCAA finds him to be personally culpable in the Bush and other cases, he's certainly going to be a handy scapegoat. I also think they're hiring him as, more or less, an interim. I don't think they believe he's their home run out of the park, to quote Desmond.
Thats a pretty look into the future, interesting to say the least he could get whats coming to him in the end.:cool:
 

TommyMac

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I don't think the insolent little punk had any ulterior reasons for going to USC other than the fact that he's a West Coast guy and he had a chance at the best plum job on the West Coast , naturally he took it.

Him not having a scintilla of loyalty or moral fiber made this an easy decision for him to make.
 

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