Game-changer! Arizona to pass 2012 eligibility law
Looks like the "birther" movement has gone from the fringe to the mainstream.
Looks like the "birther" movement has gone from the fringe to the mainstream.
Ehh... it's Arizona. I wouldn't call them mainstream before I called them knee-jerk. As it's been discussed many times recently, the political climate out there is incredibly toxic and volatile.Game-changer! Arizona to pass 2012 eligibility law
Looks like the "birther" movement has gone from the fringe to the mainstream.
Because you and I both know if he did come out and produce his original birth certificate, it would not shut everyone up.Knee jerk? Really? Its been two years. Just produce the original/certified birth certificate. Really, it's only just a little Constitutional requirement. It would be so much easier to shut everyone up. Even Chris Matthews has called for him to show it.
You question the wise Obama? Racist.Knee jerk? Really? Its been two years. Just produce the original/certified birth certificate. Really, it's only just a little Constitutional requirement. It would be so much easier to shut everyone up. Even Chris Matthews has called for him to show it.
here we go again...I'm buying Alcoa stock.Abercrombie tells friends there is no birth certificate. So much for being Obama's friend.
Friend Says Hawaii Gov Told Him There Is No Obama Birth Certificate: Daily Caller - Birthers - Fox Nation
Maybe this will help (maybe not, but i will make the attempt):I don't know if he was born here or not. Used to think he was, but don't know why I did. Just assumed I guess. This Hawaii governor stuff has sotra got me wondering. I don't understand why it is so crazy to think he might not have been.
This means that Congress, and not the state of Arizona, has the sole authority to set the procedure for determining the validity of a birth certificate. Congress set that procedure in the United States Code, Title 28, Part 5, Chapter 115, Section 1739 (and I quote)..."Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof."
United States Code: Title 28,1739. State and Territorial nonjudicial records; full faith and credit | LII / Legal Information InstituteState and Territorial nonjudicial records; full faith and credit
"All nonjudicial records or books kept in any public office of any State, Territory, or Possession of the United States, or copies thereof, shall be proved or admitted in any court or office in any other State, Territory, or Possession by the attestation of the custodian of such records..."
Problem is, the states get to determine how elections are certified. So Arizona's legislature/secretary of state could refuse to count ballots that contain a vote for a person deemed ineligible by the state to proceed. The legislature would then empower the electors of the other candidate. Constitutional crisis? Yeah, little bit.
The right of a state to set policy for its electors cannot be construed to deny the right of a person to run for president. These two rights are separate and distinct and one cannot cancel the other in any way. You know this very well."The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
Well, I guess despite what my momma told me I must be from Missouri, because all I can say is this: Show me. If it's true, show me. If it exists, show me. If you have nothing to hide, show me.October 31, 2008
Statement from Dr. Chiyome Fukino:
"I as Director of Health for the State of Hawaii, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."
The above have satisfied McCain, Boehner, McConnell and everyone in Congress except the birthers; as much as I don't really like any of them, I'm going to believe Hawaii's Director of Health. If you or anyone else chooses not to, that's your choice. It's a free country.
General Jack D. Ripper: Mandrake, do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, why, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk... ice cream. Ice cream, Mandrake, children's ice cream.Maybe this will help (maybe not, but i will make the attempt):
Hawaii has a state law forbidding the release of private information, such as birth certificates(so, no, even the Governor cannot release Obama's BC without violating that law; I would guess Obama could override that.).
#hawaii.gov/health/vital-record...
"State law prohibits the DOH for disclosing any information about a Hawaii vital record unless the requestor has a direct and tangible interest in the record. This includes verification of vital records and all the information contained in a record. Vital records disclosure laws protect all birth, death, marriage and divorce records held by the department and all amendments, changes, supporting records, and requests related to vital records."
October 31, 2008
Statement from Dr. Chiyome Fukino:
"I as Director of Health for the State of Hawaii, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."
The above have satisfied McCain, Boehner, McConnell and everyone in Congress except the birthers; as much as I don't really like any of them, I'm going to believe Hawaii's Director of Health. If you or anyone else chooses not to, that's your choice. It's a free country.
Typically, a state's "Director of Health" is not a "politician"; these are usually (as in this case) "doctors"; so if you don't want to take the word of some medical hack (to go along with your anathema to believe any 'political' hack), that's fine.Well, I guess despite what my momma told me I must be from Missouri, because all I can say is this: Show me. If it's true, show me. If it exists, show me. If you have nothing to hide, show me.
If you want to take some political hack's word for everything then fine. I'm a proud skeptic - I don't just take everything said at face value, eespecially when it's said by a politician. I swear our school system must have gone to heck in a handbasket if taking a political hack's word precludes natural curiousity and overrides skepticism as well as the public's right to know if the most powerful man in the world has told the truth about his nativity story. Just show us the dadgum thing alreaady!
Really? It's a constitutional requirement to show every nut who says he wasn't born in th US his birth cert? i musta missed that part.Knee jerk? Really? Its been two years. Just produce the original/certified birth certificate. Really, it's only just a little Constitutional requirement. It would be so much easier to shut everyone up. Even Chris Matthews has called for him to show it.
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