Bama Players Transferring (catch all thread)

[some_al_fan]

I don't know exactly their thought process. I just know what I've been told and how they felt at year's end. But either way, the QB position has been a central issue for two years now between two different coaches, and players who played under each staff have left because of it. At some point, we need to stop blaming the players for leaving...

Yes, I agree that the QB position has been a central issue for 2 years. But I find it suspicious that these WRs are "leaving because of Milroe" when it is pretty much guaranteed that Milroe is going to declare for the 2025 draft.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

Yes, I agree that the QB position has been a central issue for 2 years. But I find it suspicious that these WRs are "leaving because of Milroe" when it is pretty much guaranteed that Milroe is going to declare for the 2025 draft.

I've already said it, trust was lost in the staff and when someone gets to that point, Milroe not coming back doesn't matter anymore. A fresh start was wanted.

 

[TiderJack]

Really hadnt heard of us having more than passing interest. If we wanted a portal qb starter i think we'd already have one board.

Could have been a "may as well see if theres interest" kinda thing.

Agreed. Our QB room is good to go and we have much greater needs.

 

[CB4]

Just FYI Coach Karen Awshucks has his first portal transfer. An edge rusher from Purdue.

I thought “little ole Clempson” didn’t need transfers?

Carry on….

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

Yes, I agree that the QB position has been a central issue for 2 years. But I find it suspicious that these WRs are "leaving because of Milroe" when it is pretty much guaranteed that Milroe is going to declare for the 2025 draft.

Hadn't heard any of them say that. It's all about the money...

 

[CrimsonTitles]

Yes, I agree that the QB position has been a central issue for 2 years. But I find it suspicious that these WRs are "leaving because of Milroe" when it is pretty much guaranteed that Milroe is going to declare for the 2025 draft.

Plus, we pretty much know at this point that some kind of deal was made for Milroe to be the starter this year, and it's doubtful the coaches were dishonest about that. And none of these receivers were gonna be where they wanted to be in the depth chart after we inevitably took a receiver in the portal. They can say it's about Milroe, but it's pretty clear this was about opportunity more than anything.

 

[gtgilbert]

Did not they know that Milroe will be a starter by a Spring Portal window? Everyone knew about that by then.
I think we are making a big deal out of N5, N6, and N7 WRs hitting the portal.

There are things that are known, and some that are 'read between the lines'.

There was a lot of talk after spring about development, about how many guys on staff had been qb coaches and how much work everyone was putting in. Given all we heard publicly, it's very likely there was even more talk about how to improve and make sure that we would have a reasonable passing offense. It is after all what this staff is really all about. You're a team first type WR guy, so you buy in that the staff has this under control, and if stuff goes south others can step in.

This staff, at that point, still had really had very little exposure in working with JM. Remember they can only do that type of stuff during the actual spring practice and are not allowed to work with them outside that timeframe.

As it ends up, the staff's optimism does not pan out. They can't get JM over his challenges. The staff who assured the WRs it would be all good, can't make it right. To make matters worse, your play distribution angles much more toward zone reads because you actually can block, and you get fewer reps on pass centric plays.

Even though you call them N5-7, all these guys were in the 2 deep - we are literally losing 4 of the 6 guys in the 2 deep. Law was a starter. Prentice started as a freshman, and has made several starts over the last several years including this year. Henderson is really the only one who was possibly outside the bubble, and that's because he was an RB in HS and had to learn a lot about how to be a WR.

 

[CrimsonTitles]

There are things that are known, and some that are 'read between the lines'.

There was a lot of talk after spring about development, about how many guys on staff had been qb coaches and how much work everyone was putting in. Given all we heard publicly, it's very likely there was even more talk about how to improve and make sure that we would have a reasonable passing offense. It is after all what this staff is really all about. You're a team first type WR guy, so you buy in that the staff has this under control, and if stuff goes south others can step in.

This staff, at that point, still had really had very little exposure in working with JM. Remember they can only do that type of stuff during the actual spring practice and are not allowed to work with them outside that timeframe.

As it ends up, the staff's optimism does not pan out. They can't get JM over his challenges. The staff who assured the WRs it would be all good, can't make it right. To make matters worse, your play distribution angles much more toward zone reads because you actually can block, and you get fewer reps on pass centric plays.

Even though you call them N5-7, all these guys were in the 2 deep - we are literally losing 4 of the 6 guys in the 2 deep. Law was a starter. Prentice started as a freshman, and has made several starts over the last several years including this year. Henderson is really the only one who was possibly outside the bubble, and that's because he was an RB in HS and had to learn a lot about how to be a WR.

Still, if we replace them with a healthy Jalen Hale, Lotzeir Brooks, Derek Meadows, and Isaiah Horton, that's a net gain for us. If we were gonna lose people, I'd rather it be who we've lost, for the most part. Those guys are replaceable.

 

[TiderJack]

Still, if we replace them with a healthy Jalen Hale, Lotzeir Brooks, Derek Meadows, and Isaiah Horton, that's a net gain for us. If we were gonna lose people, I'd rather it be who we've lost, for the most part. Those guys are replaceable.

Agreed and the freshmen and transfers coming in will have a very good opportunity to step up. Rico Scott is going to play a lot in the bowl game and think he is going to be a very good WR.

 

[TheRealPokeChop]

Yes, I agree that the QB position has been a central issue for 2 years. But I find it suspicious that these WRs are "leaving because of Milroe" when it is pretty much guaranteed that Milroe is going to declare for the 2025 draft.

I agree

No wrs who are leaving right now are doing so because of milroe. Odom left because he was unhappy with targets Prentice has slipped down the rotation for two years now and dropped a ton of crucial balls that hit him in the hands...(Odom did that as well when they made a pint to play him more) and law was a great team player and excellent blocker but I can think of a game changing TD catch he made that wasn't called back.

Brooks left last year because his dad got made at nick saban, his dad admitted this in an interview and said it was a dumb choice and he forced his son to transfer.

Bond transfered for money a fast car faster women and sabans retirement..point blank. Disregard any reason he's ever publicly given. Texas had been tampering with him all season, saban kept him from leaving and then sabans retirement was the open door he needed.

 

[CajunCrimson]

Siap

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1869811121538117735

 

[M2J]

No one to blame but the NCAA over this.

Supreme Court found what we all knew, they were taking advantage of the talent.... In order to make themselves rich. Now they're passing that bill onto fans.

Why don't these conferences just kick them out. Create a workable system. At this point the SEC and big 10 could do this on their own. I'd imagine the incoming Congress is willing to create a uniform system regarding collegiate athletics, so that certain states don't have other advantages.

 

[AlexanderFan]

Siap

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1869811121538117735

Lot of candidates here, but I’m going for the smaller schools like Indiana.

 

[gtgilbert]

Lot of candidates here, but I’m going for the smaller schools like Indiana.

interesting - i would have bet it's some of the bigger ones with the most talent on the roster. i.e. if you are the #2 or #3 whatever at some of the more talented schools, you're likely a starter a lot of other places and are looking for where you can end up.

 

[CB4]

Siap

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1869811121538117735

Not that this should be surprising. There are some saying that we had a few issues with some players being “unhappy” with NIL deals prior to our semifinal game with Michigan.

And we know players have threatened to “sit out” regular season games over NIL. Why wouldn’t they use the available leverage of a playoff game to squeeze some more juice from the lemon?

 

[AlexanderFan]

interesting - i would have bet it's some of the bigger ones with the most talent on the roster. i.e. if you are the #2 or #3 whatever at some of the more talented schools, you're likely a starter a lot of other places and are looking for where you can end up.

I think it’s guys who have been “discovered” by the larger schools, and the smaller ones are having to pay to keep from being poached.

I can see either situation though.

 

[bamamc1]

Hadn't heard any of them say that. It's all about the money...

If it were not we wouldn't have them landing at such powerhouses as Arkansas and Baylor.

 

[AlexanderFan]

interesting - i would have bet it's some of the bigger ones with the most talent on the roster. i.e. if you are the #2 or #3 whatever at some of the more talented schools, you're likely a starter a lot of other places and are looking for where you can end up.

To piggyback on my thoughts, I envision a situation where the larger NIL budget schools feed off the smaller budget NIL schools. The larger schools will still get their players, work on them, see how they progress. Two years into that cycle the larger school will check out the "leftovers" the smaller schools got and see who is exceeding expectations. Calls will be made to agents, NIL will be offered, and the small school will lose their star players. The large schools will encourage their recruiting misses to go elsewhere by not renewing their NIL deals, and the strong get stronger, and the weak get weaker.

 

[BamaMoon]

Ryan Fowler posted that Brian Kelley was "fishing" for a Tide player and failed to "hook" him and went home empty.

Of course, Fowler didn't drop the player's name and some were calling him out for trying to get clicks/followers, but does anyone know who it might have been?

I first thought of Ty Simpson. Others said it was Ryan Willilams or Jam Miller.

 

[92tide]

Ryan Fowler posted that Brian Kelley was "fishing" for a Tide player and failed to "hook" him and went home empty.

Of course, Fowler didn't drop the player's name and some were calling him out for trying to get clicks/followers, but does anyone know who it might have been?

I first thought of Ty Simpson. Others said it was Ryan Willilams or Jam Miller.

the target player is probably aware that brian kelley killed a dude