Battered Quarterback Syndrome: A Discussion on Ty Simpson

[NorCalTide]

For everyone talking like this is somehow sabans fault let me remind you Sabans teams almost always finished a better product than they started bc that’s what good coaches do. So far under KD we’ve gotten steadily worse starting at the halfway point. 2 years isn’t a large enough sample to say definitively either way but it dang sure ain’t a good start.

The only qualifier I would give to this is that the transfer portal and NIL has changed the depth of the conference. There have always been dominant teams at the top of the conference and the quality in the middle and backend was good relative to other conferences during the Saban years, but now those teams have leveled up at the expense of the depth of the top teams. So the cumulative effect of punishment is different in the SEC now than it was even 5 years ago. Alabama's 2s and 3s may still have been a top half team in the SEC then, that is not true today.

 

[CrimsonTitles]

I'm reading the same evaluations of Ty. Not sure how that's going to work with our QB stable. One or more, maybe even Ty, are going to transfer.

Don't see a world where Keelon transfers. Sure, someone might offer him a crazy deal, but he's already turned down some of those. I understand kids these days are impatient, but Keelon seems to have a great head on his shoulders, and he seems like the type of guy to understand that waiting until the staff feels he is ready, is the best decision for his career. There also isn't as much urgency for such a highly touted recruit, because he doesn't need all theae extra years to impress scouts. If he had to sit next year too, then started the next year, he'd likely be a top pick in the 2028 draft with still another 2 years of eligibility left

 

[RollTide_HTTR]

The only way TS would not be on the team next year would be if he lost the starting job in the spring. I doubt that would happen. More likely one of the backups would transfer.

Probably. That's why I said he'll probably be here next year. But I do see a possibility of that not happening even if its a lower percentage chance.

Let's wait until the season is over, because I don't think it's set in stone yet. There is a world where Ty plays his way back into the first round conversation. I know he's pretty banged up right now, but if we can squeak by Oklahoma and he has until the new year to continue to recover, I wouldn't rule out him finding himself again and leading us on a deep playoff run. If he does that, then I think first round is back on the board.

Definitely true. But even then I think going pro after one year starting is a mistake.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

Let's wait until the season is over, because I don't think it's set in stone yet. There is a world where Ty plays his way back into the first round conversation. I know he's pretty banged up right now, but if we can squeak by Oklahoma and he has until the new year to continue to recover, I wouldn't rule out him finding himself again and leading us on a deep playoff run. If he does that, then I think first round is back on the board.

If its his back I don't know if having a few weeks is going to make that much of a difference in healing. He may just need an entire offseason.

 

[SeventhHeavenRanch7777@gm]

So our OL is bad because:

CKD isn't willing to work long hours like CNS?

CKD isn't like Smart?

If so, how do you explain how many other teams in college football, who have coaches who work normal (un-Saban-like) hours and who are not coached by Smart, who have dependable offensive lines???

Lol I said that coaches didn't want to work long hours under Saban like before. Had nothing to do with KD. Inside people told me that several years ago. KD is not KS nor will he ever be. Kirby adjust KD does not Kirby knows exactly what he needs in a player and KD is lost a little of times during games my take is he needs to back out west or up North back to D II.

 

[RammerJammer14]

Saban showed us a few times that there are times when the backup QB is exactly what we need.

It only ever happened twice, two different games, with the same two generational QBs. Not every situation is Hurts-Tua.

 

[Tide-one-on]

I am still seeing reports of Ty being drafted late first round. I hope he is ok and healthy

 

[bamadwain]

Being reported it could be a herniated desk,we shall see

 

[aerospace_ray]

Being reported it could be a herniated desk,we shall see

I hope not. That is what I have currently (at L5/SI) In my 6th week of PT , had Epidural . Considering surgery next year . Location matters and age/recovery. Kinda of stinks I have four decades on him
Hopefully whatever he has, he recovers safe/properly and sooner than later. I got too upset last weekend with performance but it kind of makes sense now. And truthfully in grand scheme of things he needs to heal so he can execute.Ty is a warrior. RTR

 

[bamadwain]

I hope not. That is what I have currently (at L5/SI) In my 6th week of PT , had Epidural . Considering surgery next year . Location matters and age/recovery. Kinda of stinks I have four decades on him
Hopefully whatever he has, he recovers safe/properly and sooner than later. I got too upset last weekend with performance but it kind of makes sense now. And truthfully in grand scheme of things he needs to heal so he can execute.Ty is a warrior. RTR

Hope it doesn't come down to surgery with you, they were using some kind of electric stim machine on TY during auburn game, so something is not good

 

[crimsonaudio]

If its his back I don't know if having a few weeks is going to make that much of a difference in healing. He may just need an entire offseason.

He's 22 years old and has some of the absolute best athletic medical care in the world available. I expect two weeks will make a substantial difference in his play.

 

[aerospace_ray]

Hope it doesn't come down to surgery with you, they were using some kind of electric stim machine on TY during auburn game, so something is not good

First, thank you.
I am familiar with stim treatments. Confident Ty is receiving proper treatment for whatever he may dealing with. And I know many on this forum have had issues involving bulging disc, herniated and spinal challenges. I just hope anyone in/with back related pain gets a proper diagnosis to best manage.
RTR

 

[crimsonaudio]

It only ever happened twice, two different games, with the same two generational QBs. Not every situation is Hurts-Tua.

And if Saban had rightly pulled Barron in the 2010 Iron Bowl (torn pec) Bama may well have won four in a row.

 

[Joefus]

I hope not. That is what I have currently (at L5/SI) In my 6th week of PT , had Epidural . Considering surgery next year . Location matters and age/recovery. Kinda of stinks I have four decades on him
Hopefully whatever he has, he recovers safe/properly and sooner than later. I got too upset last weekend with performance but it kind of makes sense now. And truthfully in grand scheme of things he needs to heal so he can execute.Ty is a warrior. RTR

I’ve herniated 3 discs in my back and I’m 40 and I got the surgery on my l3l4 3 years ago and regret nothing. Wish they would’ve let me get the other two done but they weren’t bad enough. Look into the new fake discs they can put in now. I know a guy from work who said he can play golf again after ten years of being unable.

Back to our regularly scheduled programming- Unless it’s a VERY mild herniated disc I find this rumor hard to believe as the number one way people make their herniations worse is falling….no sane doctor would approve this. If it was his upper back he’d lose grip strength and have real trouble twisting and having any torque on his ball and if it’s lower he’d have zero mobility as the sciatic pain would make him a pillar. They certainly would not be calling qb runs. Like the more I type this the more absurd it sounds to me. If it is true his pain tolerance is god tier and our coaches are sadists. Truly it would have to be an almost immeasurably small herniation. Like 1 millimeter

 

[bamaga]

So our OL is bad because:

CKD isn't willing to work long hours like CNS?

CKD isn't like Smart?

If so, how do you explain how many other teams in college football, who have coaches who work normal (un-Saban-like) hours and who are not coached by Smart, who have dependable offensive lines???

It’s being reported Indiana only practices 6 hours per week. I don’t believe it, but that is the report

 

[RdunawayTX]

I’ve herniated 3 discs in my back and I’m 40 and I got the surgery on my l3l4 3 years ago and regret nothing. Wish they would’ve let me get the other two done but they weren’t bad enough. Look into the new fake discs they can put in now. I know a guy from work who said he can play golf again after ten years of being unable.

Just to give you some insight, I got C4/5/6 fused about 8 years ago. I have some range of motion issues looking up, but otherwise fine. My lovely wife had C4/5/6 REPLACED with those new fake discs. Almost no recovery time, full range of motion, no neck brace at all.

If you have the opportunity, go that route.

And I seriously doubt Ty has a herniated disc and is being allowed to continue to play.

 

[RammerJammer14]

And if Saban had rightly pulled Barron in the 2010 Iron Bowl (torn pec) Bama may well have won four in a row.

Barron? I was at the 2010 AU game as a student, don’t really recall anything going on with Mark Barron. I remember Greg getting murdered in front of me. Then some squirt called AJ went in and failed to make a comeback.

Doubt we would have won 4 in a row though even if we won the Iron Bowl. Was still the BCS and we already had two losses. I think AU still would have gone on to play it. And since we lost to LSU I think we still would have been 3rd in the West.

Greg also played in and won the 2009 NC with a cracked rib from the SECCG.

But man, those were fun teams to watch, especially in person. It was truly murder ball. And we could run the dang football.

 

[RammerJammer14]

I’ve herniated 3 discs in my back and I’m 40 and I got the surgery on my l3l4 3 years ago and regret nothing. Wish they would’ve let me get the other two done but they weren’t bad enough. Look into the new fake discs they can put in now. I know a guy from work who said he can play golf again after ten years of being unable.

Back to our regularly scheduled programming- Unless it’s a VERY mild herniated disc I find this rumor hard to believe as the number one way people make their herniations worse is falling….no sane doctor would approve this. If it was his upper back he’d lose grip strength and have real trouble twisting and having any torque on his ball and if it’s lower he’d have zero mobility as the sciatic pain would make him a pillar. They certainly would not be calling qb runs. Like the more I type this the more absurd it sounds to me. If it is true his pain tolerance is god tier and our coaches are sadists. Truly it would have to be an almost immeasurably small herniation. Like 1 millimeter

My completely uninformed opinion is that he’s got a pulled muscle somewhere in the lower back.

 

[Oregon Tide]

Barron? I was at the 2010 AU game as a student, don’t really recall anything going on with Mark Barron. I remember Greg getting murdered in front of me. Then some squirt called AJ went in and failed to make a comeback.

Doubt we would have won 4 in a row though even if we won the Iron Bowl. Was still the BCS and we already had two losses. I think AU still would have gone on to play it. And since we lost to LSU I think we still would have been 3rd in the West.

Greg also played in and won the 2009 NC with a cracked rib from the SECCG.

But man, those were fun teams to watch, especially in person. It was truly murder ball. And we could run the dang football.

He's referring to the infamous tale that Barron would have picked a pass in the end zone but couldn't raise his arms due to injury (torn pec). Alabama fans have speculated that would have won us the game and another title.

 

[RammerJammer14]

He's referring to the infamous tale that Barron would have picked a pass in the end zone but couldn't raise his arms due to injury (torn pec). Alabama fans have speculated that would have won us the game and another title.

Well I definitely do not have Selma’s memory, because I don’t remember that speculation at all lol.

It was dropped passes and turnovers that cost us that game.