So, if I understand correctly, we do want to sign a guard in the spot vacated by Region? I was thinking Cyrus was gonna be our only OL signee in this class now...
Link: C Reese Dismukes committed to Auburn
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If we don't sign a guard prospect it only proves my point even more that Regions didn't have a committable offer at that point.
But odds are yes we will focus on OT's. Coach Pendry generally likes to take guys who can play multiple positions especially when he's recruiting interior guys. Regions definitely does not fit that bill.
Thomas Williams and Bobby Hart certainly fit that mold. As a true guard prospect I like Trai Turner from New Orleans. He's huge at 6-5 340, but is still pretty athletic for a big man. But as you said, OTs will be the focus and Cyrus Kouandjio is what's important.
With all that he said at that press conference about Alabama's coaching staff, I don't think I would believe that he ever really was in truth.
I understand what you are saying, but I can't be sure he was lying about decommiting either because The Tuscaloosa News actually put out a story that he committed to Bama before it came out that he went with the barn. It's just hard for me to believe that they are that out of touch with our recruiting.
A commitment isn't a commitment until Coach Saban accepts it, which he never did. Spencer wanted to commit and could have easily called The Tuscaloosa News and told him he was going to at his press conference. All this helps him put pressure on the staff to accept his commitment to save face. The staff doesn't bite, tell Regions to wait, he commits to Auburn.
It seems hard for you to believe but I can assure you our staff knows what it's doing and Regions didn't make waves in the athletic department like he hoped. Only on Bama message boards. RTR. :BigA:
Well said ! Region may could have gotten away with this with the previous staff but not CNS and staff!
Bottom line is that CNS won't fill a spot with an OL that is down on his list and let him keep shopping. It is a different story with a recruit who is on the top of the list.........it is much easier to revert to a player rated a little lower than get one rated higher in case of a change of mind. If Spencer took the spot and changed his mind close to NSD it would be tough getting the higher rated kid.
CNS didn't ride in on a turnip truck.
CNS didn't ride in on a turnip truck.
One thing you can be sure of - Nick Saban knows what he is doing. You have only heard one side of the story from a kid who has already proven that he acts impulsively and childishly. Not a shock, he is still a half kid/young man. But you seem to be looking for something that is not likely there, and taking your info from one side, the shaky side of the story. Nick Saban has a reputation of being straighforward, savvy and caring with the kids he recruits with those who sign with him and those who don't. You are barking up the wrong tree.
He called a press conference to announce his commitment. At that press conf. he committed to Auburn. The Tuscaloosa News was speculating he would commit to Bama. What's hard to understand?
If Spencer is negatively recruiting against UA, like I expect he is, it will come back around to him. Karma is a vicious boomerang.
If those guys commit to AU because of a petty thing like not going on any more recruiting trips, maybe they should re-evaluate their priorities. I guess they'll marry a girl who will let them run around too.
If those guys commit to AU because of a petty thing like not going on any more recruiting trips, maybe they should re-evaluate their priorities. I guess they'll marry a girl who will let them run around too.
I found this:
"This is the inside information chain on this information:
AU Coach ---> Fellow Employee ---> Me
And this guy really doesn't have any reason to make stuff up. Here it goes.
We all know that Spencer Region had silently committed to Bama on like a Monday or Tuesday and then reconfirmed that commitment the following Friday before his announcement only to change his mind on the way to the announcement after speaking with some Auburn Coaches. What we never really knew was what changed his mind, until now. Region called the Auburn coaches sometime after to talking with the Bama coaches on Friday. He expressed to them that he just wanted to make sure. The coach he talked to (Luper or Trooper, the guy couldn't remember which) told Region this: "If you're not a 100% about your decision, do this, call Saban and tell him you're gonna commit to Auburn and see how he reacts". Well, Region did that and promptly got the tongue lashing of a lifetime from Nick Saban.
I think at this point his scholarship was revoked (for any barn lurkers I'm not saying he never had one to begin with, just not after this). I imagine in his infantile mind, he couldn't really foresee what decomitting would really cost him. At this point he had no other choice but to choose the barn and after Dismukes heard the Region/Barn side of this story he changed his mind as well.
It was a pretty low class move on the part of the AU coach to trick Region into doing that. Its also pretty low class how they have Dismukes sound like its a mistake to choose Bama over the barn. Can't just show class and leave the other school out of it. Of course this is exactly what I would expect from the barn."
"This is the inside information chain on this information:
AU Coach ---> Fellow Employee ---> Me
And this guy really doesn't have any reason to make stuff up. Here it goes.
We all know that Spencer Region had silently committed to Bama on like a Monday or Tuesday and then reconfirmed that commitment the following Friday before his announcement only to change his mind on the way to the announcement after speaking with some Auburn Coaches. What we never really knew was what changed his mind, until now. Region called the Auburn coaches sometime after to talking with the Bama coaches on Friday. He expressed to them that he just wanted to make sure. The coach he talked to (Luper or Trooper, the guy couldn't remember which) told Region this: "If you're not a 100% about your decision, do this, call Saban and tell him you're gonna commit to Auburn and see how he reacts". Well, Region did that and promptly got the tongue lashing of a lifetime from Nick Saban.
I think at this point his scholarship was revoked (for any barn lurkers I'm not saying he never had one to begin with, just not after this). I imagine in his infantile mind, he couldn't really foresee what decomitting would really cost him. At this point he had no other choice but to choose the barn and after Dismukes heard the Region/Barn side of this story he changed his mind as well.
It was a pretty low class move on the part of the AU coach to trick Region into doing that. Its also pretty low class how they have Dismukes sound like its a mistake to choose Bama over the barn. Can't just show class and leave the other school out of it. Of course this is exactly what I would expect from the barn."
That story may be true, but I highly doubt it given Saban's track record.
IMHO, it's pretty simple. As other posters have stated, Region was not the highest guy on our board at his position, but the coaches decided that a bird in the hand might be worth two in the bush. However, if you're operating under that theory, then you've got to be darn sure the bird is in your hand, particularly when you have as few slots to fill as we do this year and when we need to really hit home runs to take advantage of our recent NC.
I think he was told this in no uncertain terms - if we take your committment now, then you have to be firmly committed. If you are not ready to firmly commit, then don't do it at this time. Region got his feelings hurt a little (as many of us would have on hearing this news), and the AU staff rather shrewdly drove the wedge in when they suggested that other recruits were allowed to take visits after committing. He then committed to AU. I wish him well down there except for 4 games during his career.
I'm sure this is neither the first time anything like this has happened nor will it be the last. All recruits are not equal, and you will do things for some of them (Julio Jones, Trent Richardson) that you won't do for others. Simply put, we can get another Spencer Region if we want it, but if he were to cost us, say, Cyrus Kouandjro, by committing and then changing his mind, this would be a double whammy.
IMHO, it's pretty simple. As other posters have stated, Region was not the highest guy on our board at his position, but the coaches decided that a bird in the hand might be worth two in the bush. However, if you're operating under that theory, then you've got to be darn sure the bird is in your hand, particularly when you have as few slots to fill as we do this year and when we need to really hit home runs to take advantage of our recent NC.
I think he was told this in no uncertain terms - if we take your committment now, then you have to be firmly committed. If you are not ready to firmly commit, then don't do it at this time. Region got his feelings hurt a little (as many of us would have on hearing this news), and the AU staff rather shrewdly drove the wedge in when they suggested that other recruits were allowed to take visits after committing. He then committed to AU. I wish him well down there except for 4 games during his career.
I'm sure this is neither the first time anything like this has happened nor will it be the last. All recruits are not equal, and you will do things for some of them (Julio Jones, Trent Richardson) that you won't do for others. Simply put, we can get another Spencer Region if we want it, but if he were to cost us, say, Cyrus Kouandjro, by committing and then changing his mind, this would be a double whammy.
Not saying that the story isn't true, but I can't imagine it is.
I don't know Regions level of intelligence (he did commit to the barns, so...) but is there really a recruit silly enough to call the head coach and tell him he has committed somewhere else just to get his reaction? I know these are youngsters we are talking about, but that just sounds way too far-fetched. jmho.
If so, that recruit definitely needs to move on to another school.
Guys 9 pages on a kid that CNS obviously wasn't that high on is a little silly and trying to make something out of a bunch of crap rumors is doing nothing but fueling the fire. The barners are digging every minute of this watching us argue over a guy they feel they stole from BAMA when in reality of it is that he was not high on our list and CNS goes after high priority people and usually gets who he wants.
Bottom line is if CNS wanted this kid he would be wearing Crimson next year~!~
Bottom line is if CNS wanted this kid he would be wearing Crimson next year~!~
:BigA: I am more worried about who we recruit than who we dont recruit, but with Saban recruiting that is not really a worry! I dont really care who the Barnyard recruits or any one else because Saban is going to get most or all the players he really wants!
It just seems like they would at least confirm it somehow before posting it on the internet...
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