Charlie Kirk Part III

[CrimsonJazz]

And then Trump spoke.

Sigh.......he really is bad at this.

 

[Huckleberry]

Protesters outside the Charlie Kirk Arizona Memorial were out with signs shouting “I hope your baby dies” to pregnant Americans who attended. I'd post the video, but they were met with a blanket bombing of retaliations, many of which involved banned words around here. These people....

Such actions by protesters are despicable. I would say protestors had no place at a memorial service, but it was clearly a political event for some of the speakers.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

Such actions by protesters are despicable. I would say protestors had no place at a memorial service, but it was clearly a political event for some of the speakers.

Of course it was and as such, was destined to be a cluster you-know-what. I get it, Kirk's assassination was political and its ramifications will be felt for a long time. Reps are going to exploit this for all the meat they can get off that bone. Dems have done little in the way of damage control and the reactions on the street have been eyebrow raising, to say the very least.

Someone posted a YT video the other day and basically it was a mashup up of young, mostly minority people who decided to hunt down Kirk's videos and see for themselves what all this was about. Their responses are all eerily similar: "why did they lie to us about this man?" I can't help but wonder just how far this thing is gonna go, but I do know this: if this becomes a movement, your party is toast for some time to come. I don't know what the answer is, but you better figure it out and soon.

 

[Huckleberry]

Of course it was and as such, was destined to be a cluster you-know-what. I get it, Kirk's assassination was political and its ramifications will be felt for a long time. Reps are going to exploit this for all the meat they can get off that bone. Dems have done little in the way of damage control and the reactions on the street have been eyebrow raising, to say the very least.

Someone posted a YT video the other day and basically it was a mashup up of young, mostly minority people who decided to hunt down Kirk's videos and see for themselves what all this was about. Their responses are all eerily similar: "why did they lie to us about this man?" I can't help but wonder just how far this thing is gonna go, but I do know this: if this becomes a movement, your party is toast for some time to come. I don't know what the answer is, but you better figure it out and soon.

Honestly, I'm not particularly concerned. For all the talk about a massive influx of new Christians and/or Republicans as a result of the Kirk murder, it sounds more like wishful thinking to me. I've refrained from criticizing Kirk here and won't mention specifics now, but the idea that non-MAGA people could search up his videos and find nothing objectionable strikes me as unrealistic propaganda.

 

[some_al_fan]

Of course it was and as such, was destined to be a cluster you-know-what. I get it, Kirk's assassination was political and its ramifications will be felt for a long time. Reps are going to exploit this for all the meat they can get off that bone. Dems have done little in the way of damage control and the reactions on the street have been eyebrow raising, to say the very least.

Someone posted a YT video the other day and basically it was a mashup up of young, mostly minority people who decided to hunt down Kirk's videos and see for themselves what all this was about. Their responses are all eerily similar: "why did they lie to us about this man?" I can't help but wonder just how far this thing is gonna go, but I do know this: if this becomes a movement, your party is toast for some time to come. I don't know what the answer is, but you better figure it out and soon.

You shouldn't worry about Dems, but you should be worrying about Trump and his Administration, who are going to use this assassination to squash free speech and any opposition in our country.
History shows that after squashing opposition, authoritarians start to eat their own

 

[CrimsonJazz]

You shouldn't worry about Dems, but you should be worrying about Trump and his Administration, who are going to use this assassination to squash free speech and any opposition in our country.
History shows that after squashing opposition, authoritarians start to eat their own

I worry about neither Dems or MAGA. The far-left and MAGA are pretty much mirror images of each other. I have no place among the soulless neocons in the middle, either. If spirit animals were a thing (and they aren’t) mine would be Benjamin the Donkey.

 

[92tide]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1969911962344587402

“Our lineage and our legacy hails back to Athens, to Rome, to Philadelphia,” Trump’s Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy and Homeland Security Advisor Stephen Miller declared at Charlie Kirk’s memorial in Arizona, crediting the broader MAGA movement as the rightful heirs of “civilization” who pulled humanity “out of the caves and the darkness into the light.”

He told thousands of mourners that Kirk’s death had “awakened the dragon,” as he framed the conflict as a holy war, where his side stands “on the side of God” against “wickedness and evil.” “We stand for what is good, what is virtuous, what is noble,” Miller shouted, presenting MAGA as the sole guardians of morality and creation, and everyone else – a threat to be crushed.

Turning grief into a battle-cry to eradicate those he cast as “enemies” of civilization, Miller vowed his movement would now “finish the job” and “save the West.”

the scrolling add for tpusa merch at the bottom of the screen is a nice touch

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Such actions by protesters are despicable.

You know, I'm old enough to remember when having the bad taste to protest a funeral was a really hard right-wing thing even conservatives denounced when Fred Phelps and his merry band of moose twits (aka Westboro) held up protest signs and picketed funerals.

AGAIN.....imbalanced people become the very thing they loathe and the horseshoe theory lives.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Honestly, I'm not particularly concerned. For all the talk about a massive influx of new Christians and/or Republicans as a result of the Kirk murder, it sounds more like wishful thinking to me. I've refrained from criticizing Kirk here and won't mention specifics now, but the idea that non-MAGA people could search up his videos and find nothing objectionable strikes me as unrealistic propaganda.

Just wait until Kirk rises from the dead on Wednesday morning.....

 

[92tide]

Sue Stone (@knittingknots.bsky.social)

GOP lawmaker shares clip of Charlie Kirk calling for Epstein files during his memorial - Raw Story https://www.rawstory.com/thomas-massie-charlie-kirk-epstein/

bsky.app

from rep. massie

 

[92tide]

You know, I'm old enough to remember when having the bad taste to protest a funeral was a really hard right-wing thing even conservatives denounced when Fred Phelps and his merry band of moose twits (aka Westboro) held up protest signs and picketed funerals.

AGAIN.....imbalanced people become the very thing they loathe and the horseshoe theory lives.

well, i hope these protestors were smart enough to hawk merch while there /s

 

[AlexanderFan]

When they go low you go.......low?

The irony coming from the most liberal echo chamber in Tidefans land.

 

[AlexanderFan]

That has got to be one of the dumbest takes I’ve ever heard.

This is why fascism or Marxism will eventually take over the country. We have created an environment in which education, the media, and the medical field are the enemies of the state. At some point emotion and stupidity wins over rational and true patriotic thoughts

It’s a race to see which side gets there first.

 

[AlexanderFan]

You shouldn't worry about Dems, but you should be worrying about Trump and his Administration, who are going to use this assassination to squash free speech and any opposition in our country.
History shows that after squashing opposition, authoritarians start to eat their own

We saw it, circa 2020-2024, it’s just the repubs turn to show America they can’t be trusted either.

 

[rolltide_21]

The clips I've seen from this political rally masquerading as a memorial service make me sad for his family. I'm glad his children aren't old enough to remember this. Funerals are supposed to comfort and encourage the family through Scripture, prayer, and the memories of the deceased. This service was more about the MAGA movement than anything else.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

As I watched the Charlie Kirk memorial, I found myself wrestling with these reflections.

In my lifetime, I don’t think I’ve ever seen something backfire so spectacularly as Tyler Robinson's actions. He thought he was striking a blow against "hate" by assassinating Charlie Kirk but in that twisted moment, he became the very monster he claimed to despise: the epitome of fascist violence, born from rage and delusion.

Instead of muting Kirk's voice, Robinson amplified it a millionfold. What was once a speaker on stage is now a martyr's echo, rallying millions who feel the sting of division in their own lives. His movement is exploding, not because of bullets, but because people see the raw truth: silencing dissent doesn't win hearts; it ignites them.

And that hate he unleashed? It didn't target just one man… it ricocheted straight back, fueling fresh waves of anger toward the echo chambers, the online radicals, and the parties peddling poison. We've all felt that burn: the late-night doomscroll that turns frustration into something darker, the impulse to lash out when words fail. But Robinson? He crossed the line, and now we're left staring at the wreckage.

Tyler Robinson isn't a villain from a movie… he's a total, tragic failure. A 22-year-old kid, radicalized in the shadows of screens, who bet everything on violence and lost it all. If you're out there right now, fists clenched, heart pounding with that same toxic brew of anger and despair... pause. Look at this. Really look. One shot didn't change the world… it just made it louder and angrier. Choose words over weapons. Choose bridges over bullets. Because in the end, the real power isn't in pulling a trigger… it's in rising above the noise and building a better future, together.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1969851285718352377

 

[Bamabuzzard]

Honestly, I'm not particularly concerned. For all the talk about a massive influx of new Christians and/or Republicans as a result of the Kirk murder, it sounds more like wishful thinking to me. I've refrained from criticizing Kirk here and won't mention specifics now, but the idea that non-MAGA people could search up his videos and find nothing objectionable strikes me as unrealistic propaganda.

They are finding things objectionable, but what they also are finding are a lot of the things they've been told about "what Charlie Kirk said" and "what Charlie Kirk believed" weren't exactly accurate. I've watched two vidoes of comedians who are left leaning who've made videos saying they finally just started looking up Kirk's vidoes and watching them for themselves and after watching them for themselves have a different, more civil view of Charlie Kirk and what he stood for. Though admitting there are still some things they don't agree with him on, a lot of the things they'd been told "he said" and "he believed" were wrong and not presented accurately. So no, not all of it is propaganda.

 

[Huckleberry]

This is a very fair assessment. Kirk was a flawed human being and, like most of us, had thoughts that many will find appealing and other ideas that might be considered less so. He was neither the angel that some on the right have described or the monster portrayed by some on the left.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

This is a very fair assessment. Kirk was a flawed human being and, like most of us, had thoughts that many will find appealing and other ideas that might be considered less so. He was neither the angel that some on the right have described or the monster portrayed by some on the left.

He was basically like most law abiding human beings (like you and me). I think if more people (and I'll include myself in this that I need to get better at doing) spent as much time researching who someone really is for themselves, rather than taking as gospel every 10 second reel on intstagram that someone has chopped, edited and posted on social media, or take hook line and sinker an online "journalists" column with partial quotes of someone to fit their agenda. We may find there aren't as many "demon people" in our country as we first thought. They're no different than you and I. They're people with opinions, beliefs and want their voice heard just like everyone else does.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Charlie Kirk was little more to me than a person whose sound bites were regurgitated wholesale on Facebook and what little I knew were every bit as lacking in context from his own "side" as some of the selective quotations I see now from the "left." No, there's not going to be some sprouting of millions of little Charlie Kirks (unless he was rampantly cheating on his wife which, who knows?), he will be largely forgotten by Thanksgiving (Trump will ensure that except when he calls him forth as a mascot), and things will go on as they always have.

While I find some of the "glad he's dead" stuff a bit over the top, anyone who needed a tutorial in the scum that humanity really is must be living on a deserted island somewhere. At the same time, touting this guy like was going to be President is equally ridiculous. You don't get elected President having those kinds of debates with folks and letting everyone know what you REALLY think about most things.