Coach addresses suspended receivers

Crimson1967

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What's the point in airing a laundry list of their transgressions? Coach has made it clear that they've been acting immaturely and it's up to them to change that pattern and show some progress in self-discipline...
I agree. Unless they were arrested, anything they do isn't harming anyone but themselves. Saban seems to know what he's doing in handling football players and getting the most out of them.
 

Braveheart

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One thing Brandon Lewis could do well was block and blast a hole in short yardage situations. There were several times last year, he was brought in for that and was very effective.
 

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IMO Calloway would make an ideal H Back. He obviously is a gifted athlete with size and speed and assuming he can add some weight (strength) and learn to block he could be the answer.
 

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IMO Calloway would make an ideal H Back. He obviously is a gifted athlete with size and speed and assuming he can add some weight (strength) and learn to block he could be the answer.
I would think he has had an advantage working with the RB's under Coach Burns for year in terms of learning blocking technique - or least more so if he was making the move from LB.
 

rolltide_21

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Coach said tonight in HSV to the effect that BC maybe had found a home at H-back...
The possibilities with this position change is are numerous. It has been mentioned that he can do more with the ball after the catch. Also, he can be a threat with plays such as "end arounds" (old school I know but if it works it works). He is a huge mismatch on LBs with his speed. I hope it works out.
 

MOAN

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What's the point in airing a laundry list of their transgressions? Coach has made it clear that they've been acting immaturely and it's up to them to change that pattern and show some progress in self-discipline...
Well the AJC is running out of new stuff to judge coach Saban or at least the old stuff is getting old lol! If the transgressions would come out they could write all summer long till start of fall practice how awful the kids are being mistreated!! What would Mark Richt do??? And stuff!!! ;)
 

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Duron was a mess from day one at OSU, and he didn't appear to turn that around at Coffeyville. I don't think that Alabama will miss him if he can't get it together.

I wonder why such a disproportionate number of WRs create problems at every level of this sport.
 

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It is a diva thing according to father Cris ... similar question was asked to Cris about NFL receivers on Mike n Mike show not too long ago and he went on and on about WR's feeling a sense of entitlement, divasims, etc. Apparently rules don't apply to gifted WR's. Maybe some of it rubbed off on Duron.
 

cthorne22

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from Stink (Mark Schlereth on the mothership) "the further you line up away from the ball the less you know about what is really going on"

So true.
 

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I like the idea of BC at H Back. The position seems wide open. If he can be even a marginally effective blocker I think his ball catching/carrying abilities would open up a lot of possibilities. My concern is how to manage him putting on the size he needs while maintaining as much of his speed and ability to move in the open field as possible.

Fortunately, we appear to have a pretty good coach in charge of such things...
 

TideEngineer08

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It is a diva thing according to father Cris ... similar question was asked to Cris about NFL receivers on Mike n Mike show not too long ago and he went on and on about WR's feeling a sense of entitlement, divasims, etc. Apparently rules don't apply to gifted WR's. Maybe some of it rubbed off on Duron.
With his extensive knowledge on this subject, it is a shame he didn't pass along some humility to his son to squash that sense of entitlement. And I only make a comment like that because of what Coach Saban said in this statement about these 3 guys. That lets me know they haven't "gotten" it yet.

The world never stops spinning. You can have all the talent in the world but if you don't learn to be disciplined the world will pass you by and leave you in the dust. Hopefully, that won't happen to these guys but they're awful close to it.
 

KrAzY3

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The whole receiver thing is weird, not just at Alabama, but period. Namea a few of the most talented receivers in recent memory and you'll also end up naming trouble players (Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, and Chad Johnson). The list doesn't end there, Braylon Edwards, Brandon Marshall, and Plaxico Burress come to mind as well. Let's not even get into Rae Carruth. It doesn't seem like it was always that bad, but while we're on the subject Cris Carter had issues to.

It's sad really, because when you look at some behavior issues of a Terrell Owens, or a Randy Moss you really have to wonder what their performance would have been like with a Jerry Rice work ethic. The same can be said for Alabama's talented, yet troubled receivers.

As to why they have this type of behavior, I think it's a combination of issues. One of them is simply the look at me nature of the position. Their job isn't just to get open, or catch the ball, but (in their mind at least) it's to get the attention of the quarterback. In some cases, they can think their job is to be selfish. Their only job as they see it is to get the QB to throw to them, and as we've seen sometimes if they are not going to have the ball thrown to them they don't even try on the play.

This, coupled with the fact that it isn't as physically demanding as most other positions, and the fact that the receivers get a lot of the big plays... I guess you just have the perfect recipe for a full of themselves, lazy, entitled football player. I guess it doesn't help matters, that at least to some extent, troubled receivers seem to get the most attention and make that type of behavior appear desirable.

Duron really bothers me though. You see so much talent, he has a father that's made some of the same mistakes, he has a coach that knows the right way to do things. It's very frustrating. Then again, I once had a teacher devote an entire class to lecturing me on my wasted potential. If you just don't get it, you're hopeless.
 

Vinny

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I was couple of rows behind the Alabama bench at the Penn State game last year and one of those three suspended players was really acting like a fool while a couple of Penn State fans were eggiing him on prior to the clock clicking down to 0. I was looking at him, making eye contact, like dude, turn around and stop wispering and making stupid gestures to the Penn State fans.
 

ColumbusTide

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Moving to H-Back might be a good move for Calloway. There is a noticeable move in the NFL to athletic and fast H-Backs/Tight Ends. He would be a mismatch against almost any linebacker that tried to cover him. He has great ball skills and is physical (that's the linebacker in him). He could be special at H-Back.
 

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Moving to H-Back might be a good move for Calloway. There is a noticeable move in the NFL to athletic and fast H-Backs/Tight Ends. He would be a mismatch against almost any linebacker that tried to cover him. He has great ball skills and is physical (that's the linebacker in him). He could be special at H-Back.
This. The NFL has really caught on with athletic TE's even more so the last 10+ years. College football has been slow with the incorporation of TE's for some reason. If BC continues to be teachable and develop into a great threat at H-back, his future could be set in a few years.
 

Padreruf

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The whole receiver thing is weird, not just at Alabama, but period. Namea a few of the most talented receivers in recent memory and you'll also end up naming trouble players (Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, and Chad Johnson). The list doesn't end there, Braylon Edwards, Brandon Marshall, and Plaxico Burress come to mind as well. Let's not even get into Rae Carruth. It doesn't seem like it was always that bad, but while we're on the subject Cris Carter had issues to.

It's sad really, because when you look at some behavior issues of a Terrell Owens, or a Randy Moss you really have to wonder what their performance would have been like with a Jerry Rice work ethic. The same can be said for Alabama's talented, yet troubled receivers.

As to why they have this type of behavior, I think it's a combination of issues. One of them is simply the look at me nature of the position. Their job isn't just to get open, or catch the ball, but (in their mind at least) it's to get the attention of the quarterback. In some cases, they can think their job is to be selfish. Their only job as they see it is to get the QB to throw to them, and as we've seen sometimes if they are not going to have the ball thrown to them they don't even try on the play.

This, coupled with the fact that it isn't as physically demanding as most other positions, and the fact that the receivers get a lot of the big plays... I guess you just have the perfect recipe for a full of themselves, lazy, entitled football player. I guess it doesn't help matters, that at least to some extent, troubled receivers seem to get the most attention and make that type of behavior appear desirable.

Duron really bothers me though. You see so much talent, he has a father that's made some of the same mistakes, he has a coach that knows the right way to do things. It's very frustrating. Then again, I once had a teacher devote an entire class to lecturing me on my wasted potential. If you just don't get it, you're hopeless.
I agree with most of this...except for the statement that it is not as physically demanding. Maybe you mean in hitting, but these are usually the best athletes on offense. That is the main problem...they have been coddled growing up in all sports due to their athletic ability -- and when they make a great play everyone sees it. They get the "entitlement" attitude very quickly.

I like the fact that we have so many capable receivers...keeps those who don't get it on the bench...
 

KrAzY3

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I agree with most of this...except for the statement that it is not as physically demanding. Maybe you mean in hitting, but these are usually the best athletes on offense.
I meant demanding as in the rigors. They are great athletes, but they don't have the mental and physical toughness you see at other positions. Basically, it's one of the positions in which many that excel are simply gifted. It's one of the positions in which a track star can transition directly into the position with limited experience (or, as we've seen before a defensive player can transition into it as well). It doesn't take the same work ethic or skill to excel at that position. Mainly I was trying to say it's just a position that doesn't always require as much effort.
 
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Some of also comes from when you actually get the ball, you get the attention, to get the attention you have to work for it. If your not getting the ball to get your needed attention then you will go elsewhere to get it, i.e. off the field.
 

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I meant demanding as in the rigors. They are great athletes, but they don't have the mental and physical toughness you see at other positions. Basically, it's one of the positions in which many that excel are simply gifted. It's one of the positions in which a track star can transition directly into the position with limited experience (or, as we've seen before a defensive player can transition into it as well). It doesn't take the same work ethic or skill to excel at that position. Mainly I was trying to say it's just a position that doesn't always require as much effort.
I think there is some truth to this. Randy Moss is likely a first ballot Hall of Famer, yet the knock on him was that he sometimes took plays off, especially when he knew he was not the primary target.
 
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