Coach Price thoughts

MOBILE-BAMA

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I found this post about Mike Price from Coug85 on a UTEP message board Any thoughts?

I saw the Finebaum article this morning on the Mobile newspaper website. Paul Finebaum has a daily radio show that is one of the most listened to in the country. I pick it up on the Internet. Finebaum has been one of the most merciless attackers of Coach Price ever since the incident in Alabama. And like most people following Alabama football he never realized what a class guy Mike Price is. I was stunned by Finbaum’s article and have to grant him respect for his change of view.

I have always believed a person moving from a place like the West Coast to Tuscaloosa, Alabama needed to take a crash course in southern culture. If this were done, I doubt anyone from the West Coast would accept the head football coaching position at Alabama. No matter how much they pay, no matter how good their facilities and no matter how good their recruits are, it is a terminal job. I saw Coach Price at Alabama the week of the Spring Football game and was stunned at how bad he looked. Always one of the most upbeat and optimistic guys I have ever known, he appeared to be exhausted and running on battery power. Had he stayed at Alabama he may have died attempting to meet everyone’s expectations. And at Alabama, you are as good as your last game.

I have also had the privilege of seeing Coach Price at UTEP and listening to his weekly radio shows on Tuesday during the football season. I should also add, I saw a lot of him at WSU. I don’t believe I have ever seen him happier than when I saw him in El Paso last September.

I, like a lot of his friends, would have loved to see what he could do blending his knowledge of football i.e. the type of game he plays, his interpersonal philosophy working with young people and the resources of a well funded athletic program. It would have been a good shot at being #1 in the nation. I believe UTEP has the potential to get to the top but it will take years of commitment by everyone to make that dream come true. Coach Price is the starting point but he will be long retired before that happens. And as that process continues, UTEP will experience dramatic ups and downs. I define dramatic as the loss of our last two games this season. Eventually, those sorts of things won’t happen.

One of the most important ingredients to keeping the program moving forward is retaining Coach Price. I have always wondered whether he would take one more shot at #1 in the nation. Only he knows, but his choosing to stay another year and signing a contract extension lead me to believe he plans on staying right in El Paso. Frankly, I couldn’t be happier for him and his family. As long as I can get to UTEP games off the dish and afford to come to El Paso at least once a year I’ll be one happy boy.

Finally I want to make some comparisons between Alabama and UTEP. Alabama always has a shot at the national title. UTEP doesn’t. Alabama has a great stadium, so does UTEP. Alabama has all the money in the world, UTEP doesn’t. Alabama has a shot at every five star recruit in the country, UTEP doesn’t. Alabama was a fan base that loves you while you’re winning, UTEP has a fan base that honors trying to win every game and being loyal. I have tailgated with the “royalty” of Alabama and with Maynard Haddid. I would love the opportunity to tailgate again with Maynard, not so with the royalty. From my viewpoint, UTEP and Mike Price are the perfect marriage and Y’all are the best fans in the world. To back this up I suggest you listen to the Tuesday night call in show following the loss to SMU. I did with some trepidation. I was shocked at all the people that called in to say how much they loved the team and coaches. At Alabama the coaches would have had to nail up pig wire over their windows at home to keep fans from throwing bricks through the glass.

Thank you from all of us in the Pacific Northwest who have taken in people we care for very much and made them part of your family.
Coug
 
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Interesting, As usual Alabama fans are villified and stuffed in a box that never represented the rank and file.

But as for the rest of it, I'm glad Price found a place where losing is acceptable, Thats exactly the environment he needs. As for the pressure at Alabama, Looking at the number of coaches who lost their job around the SEC in the last few years Alabama's just like everybody else. And under Shula we have had only an S&S coach change since his original staff was assembled. Nobody of importance has called for Shula's head, even with his 0-3 record against Auburn.
 
Lighten up, Francis. CMP got caught with his hand in the cookie jar way too soon after another scandal rocked the program. Bad Action + Bad Timing = Bye Bye.

I wish him all the success in the world whereever he's at. I wish he had not have made that huge mistake as he could have been good at BAMA, but all too many times booze permantly blows things for people.
 
bamaslammer said:
Interesting, As usual Alabama fans are villified and stuffed in a box that never represented the rank and file.

But as for the rest of it, I'm glad Price found a place where losing is acceptable, Thats exactly the environment he needs. As for the pressure at Alabama, Looking at the number of coaches who lost their job around the SEC in the last few years Alabama's just like everybody else. And under Shula we have had only an S&S coach change since his original staff was assembled. Nobody of importance has called for Shula's head, even with his 0-3 record against Auburn.

Hopefully that is because of lessons learned!
 
Good post Mobile.
Glad to see Pappy have success at UTEP. I also think he would have been good for Alabama. If he had been at Alabama for a year when the incident occurred I don't think he would have been fired because the fans would have been in love with the guy.
 
Well...

before he gets "sainted," I do agree that he's a very nice guy. I agree that his style of play gets results. I have doubts about its survival in the SEC. (His answer to KD's complaint that we only had five running plays - "That's all we need" is what I'm talking about.) A HS FB coach in Washington was predicting to me, prior to Price's arrival, that something similar to what did happen was going to happen. This coach was a former Baptist minister, so you can imagine that he came from a certain perspective about acceptable behavior. I do agree that Price should have had a crash course in southern FB and southern acceptable behavior limits - if it would have "taken." That would have been easier than educating hundreds of thousands of Bama FB fans. Coach Price, as I said, is a nice guy. He's a good fit for UTEP and wish him success and godspeed there. But let's not go hog wild... :rolleyes:
 
My feelings about Price remains the same. I remember when this all unfolded and the masses in the media made the excuse that basically said, "He's only a Football Coach!"

My argument remains that he is not only a Football coach but, he is a professional educator. He is responsible to his players as students of the University and he is a representative of the institution. To me the punishment didn't go far enough. If it had been me or another educator we would have been stripped of our certification and not able to get another job in education probably forever.
 
I would add that I have a problem calling anyone "a class guy" who hangs out at dingy strip joints and gets so drunk on a regular basis that they don't remember the events of the evening. If this was a one time deal, forgiving and forgetting would be appropriate, but it was not. Price was drinking and drunk often around campus according to many I taked to who saw him. I don't believe the strip joint stuff was new to him either.

Add to this that when caught red handed, he blamed everyone but himself. He reminded me of Clinton -- blame Sports Illustrated, Blame Dr Witt, blame and sue Alabama for firing him -- but never blame yourself.

This man had no character and still does not IMO. I am very gratful that he is gone and Mike Shula -- a man of true character -- is captain of the capstone ship.
 
Looks like CMP is happiest when surrounded by enablers. Whatever else the Alabama coaching environment is like, its not like that. I'm glad we cut our losses with the guy as soon as we realized what we got. He never would have cut it here.
 
Price would have been successful here on the field, but I don't blame Dr. Witt one iota for firing him. I would rather lose w/ a coach that has and lives up to high moral standards than win w/ a coach that is severely lacking in that area, at least when he is out officially representing the university.
 
No one...

can say for sure that he would have been successful here - or that he positively would not. I may know a bit more than most about how he ran practice and the FB program and I was in terminal depression, because I did not think he could be successful in the SEC. I do know that some of the younger holdovers in the staff got a real shock when they became acquainted with the Shula idea of what a work day and a work week consisted of...
 
florabama said:
This man had no character and still does not IMO. I am very gratful that he is gone and Mike Shula -- a man of true character -- is captain of the capstone ship.

Hey, sounds to me like he is a "character", lol! Sounds like someone I could throw down a few with and I bet he would be a fun guy to go "Go Going" with. ;)

But I don't think I would want someone like him or me even, coaching at Bama. How that slipped by Mal puzzles me. But I wish him well at UTEP. I know who to call if I'm ever in his area for a recomendation on a good GO GO! LOL!!! :biggrin:
 
It slipped by because...

of the people Mal talked with and a lot of "nudge-nudge, wink-wink" denial. That, and because of a very real cultural difference when it comes to saloon life. You don't have to live out there very long to realize that the church to lounge ratio has flipped. You'd fit in well. :D There are probably ten times as many girls in western bars who've named themselves "Destiny" as in the SE. It probably seemed perfectly normal...
 
I second Tide-HSV's first post.....his idea of what practice should consist of leads me to believe that he never would have made in SEC territory. Practice isn't playtime or funtime. You practice all week to win on Saturday, at least in theory. Sure, some of the guys cried and carried on when Price was fired, and I have no ideas that they had fallen in love with the guy. He was definitely a player's coach...but come football season he likely would have proven to NOT be a fan's coach.....
 
Coach Price did care about his players a great deal. That I believe. But, he would not have been a role model or even set a good example for his players.

I believe that it all worked out for the best.
 
I wish him well, but I have never and will never feel sorry about him being immediatly kicked to the curb after what he did. We couldn't have a guy who acts like that going into recruits' homes, talking to their parents trying to get their kid to come play for him. Coaches are supposed to be role models, and his actions are not the sort of precedent I'd want set for my kid. Has he cleaned up his act, because I don't see how he could be recruiting anyone now after that scandal broke if he hasn't.

Yes, everone makes mistakes. I've done some stupid things in my life (nothing that stupid though), but I'm not a head football coach. I don't have a whole team looking up to me. Actually, "mistake" isn't quite the word I'd use for all the stupid things he did...

I'm not going to apologize for always wanting to win either. What fan doesn't want their team to win? After how highly touted Mike Price was, I think most of us expected to win (except I didn't know that about the 5 running plays... with that knowlege, I'm not sure we could have won). I don't buy this pressure argument at all. I mean, what pressure was he really under. The A-Day game? I don't think the pressure argument is valid.

I'm not meaning to sound overly harsh, but that article that was written to win us all over and make us have second thoughts about the way he was treated here just made me mad.
 
MOBILE-BAMA said:
I found this post about Mike Price from Coug85 on a UTEP message board

I saw Coach Price at Alabama the week of the Spring Football game and was stunned at how bad he looked. Always one of the most upbeat and optimistic guys I have ever known, he appeared to be exhausted and running on battery power.

He was probably exhausted from all of the drinking he was apparently doing.

Alabama has a great stadium, so does UTEP.

I'm sure UTEP's stadium is right up there with Bryant-Denny. This guy must have been looking at our practice field, not BDS.

Alabama was a fan base that loves you while you’re winning, UTEP has a fan base that honors trying to win every game and being loyal.

Isn't this just another way of saying "accepting losing?" I mean I hope every team and coach "tries" to win.

At Alabama the coaches would have had to nail up pig wire over their windows at home to keep fans from throwing bricks through the glass.

I guess it's true, if you repeat a lie often enough it becomes the truth to some people.
 

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