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BamaMoon said:
That was the infamous bench Milroe, don't start Ty and start the ND transfer who now plays lacrosse.

I know you put it in blue font, but it needs to be said that that game was just about the most unreasonable and tragic think CNS ever did as a HC.

Dude, you are like a record player saying the same things over and over! Some have answered your question, yet you demand further answers.

How about this: Lane says "no" and decides to stay and coach them through the playoffs - ever how far that is - and deepens his legacy there, which is already record level. He stays a few more years and finally wins a SECC and who knows what beyond and he's their modern-day Vaught.

OR, if he thinks he might be interested in LSU he says to them, I'll talk when our season is over and if not, good luck on your next hire.
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That’s my point. If he wanted to go to LSU (obviously he did) nobody can blame him.

I’m not sure waiting till the season was over was an option with the current setup.

More so, I’m not sure LSU didn’t give him an ultimatum as well as we know Ole Miss did.
 
rolltide7854 said:
Kiffin's job resume
Fired by Al Davis for doing stupid things like trying a 73 yard FG
Left Tennessee after one year to go to USC
Fired by USC who refused to let him to fly home with the team
Given a chance by Nick Saban who fired him for being a distraction during a playoff run.
Left FAU to go to Ole Miss
Left Ole Miss before season ended with a chance for the CFP. Threatens to take all his offensive coaches if they don't allow him to coach the rest of the season/
My memory is nowhere as good as others on here, so I hope they add more substance to his history, but it seems like every head coaching he left with the exception of FAU there were issues with how he left.
What will he do if the NFL or Texas calls?
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He flew home with the team. He was fired in the airport AFTER arriving back in LA.
 
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CrimsonTheory said:
Yes it is quitting on his team. The job would be available in the off-season. All Kiffin has to do was communicate with LSU through his agent that he was interested in the job and they would talk in the off-season. I guarantee you, LSU would have waited. LSU is a punk for pursing a coach during a playoff run, and Kiffin is a punk for allowing to happen in the first place. If you can not see it, then I do not know what else to say.

As for Saban, he is not infalliable to giving bad advice. I do believe Saban gave bad advice. It happens.
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How do you guarantee LSU would have waited? We don’t know that.

Even if that’s the case, it puts him severely behind with the current setup.
 
countrytider said:
Well I think it's a good hire, and he was my choice at Bama to replace Saban.

That's kind of beside the point. I mean it's nothing but a Kiffin bash thread but it's not based upon much substance. Nobody is saying HOW he could have handled it any better, just that he should have handled it better.
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1) "I will remain at Ole Miss."
2) "I have spoken with the PTB at Ole Miss, and we have agreed it is for the best that I resign immediately in pursuit of the LSU job. I wish Ole Miss the best in the playoffs."

I reiterate: this guy has all of the worst qualities of the Alabama coaches who haven't won national championships: Perkins arrogance, Bill Curry fleeing what you've built, Franchione running away from a challenge, Mike Price chasing skirts, even Mike Shula's boneheaded coaching decisions on the field.

He's Bobby Petrino with enough sense to stay off a motorcycle.
 
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crimsonaudio said:
Your entire viewpoint is ignoring NIL.

In 2026, LSU isn't a better job than OM. Especially if OM wins a NC in 2025.

But keep holding on to historic norms. CFB has been ruined by the money, and that means things have changed.
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It's funny how many people are forgetting that Tuberville fleeing Oxford to Auburn was AT THAT TIME a move upward in the pecking order.

Who would really believe this nowadays?
 
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countrytider said:
How do you guarantee LSU would have waited? We don’t know that.

Even if that’s the case, it puts him severely behind with the current setup.
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So he's got to choose between what's best for his current team and assumptions about his future accomplishments and legacy. Welcome to adulthood

He chose what he values most, as we all do when facing similar decisions
 
countrytider said:
How do you guarantee LSU would have waited? We don’t know that.

Even if that’s the case, it puts him severely behind with the current setup.
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Because Kiffin was their #1 guy, not their 3rd or 4th. There was NO ONE on the open market worth not waiting on Kiffin. A lot of the working mechanics of the contract could have already been worked out through Kiffin's agent and LSU without Kiffin and his family making an overly public visit to Baton Rouge.

Regarding him being "severely behind"? How? He would have the ability to get any of the players who jumped in the portal from Ole Miss after he left and trust me, a lot of them would have followed him to LSU. Lane isn't the victim in this. He and Jimmy Sexton are the ones who laid the foundation for it to turn into this.
 
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countrytider said:
How do you guarantee LSU would have waited? We don’t know that.

Even if that’s the case, it puts him severely behind with the current setup.
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It shouldn't have mattered whether LSU waited or not. I realize that money talks in college football, but keeping your word and finishing the job should still count for something. CLK made the choice to walk away from everything he'd built-- a championship run, the goodwill of a school and fanbase that hasn't sniffed the playoffs in the modern era, and a somewhat rehabilitated image as a more mature coach. Actions have consequences, and the fact that Lane hasn't learned that by now probably means he never will.
 
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Bamabuzzard said:
Regarding him being "severely behind"? How? He would have the ability to get any of the players who jumped in the portal from Ole Miss after he left and trust me, a lot of them would have followed him to LSU. Lane isn't the victim in this. He and Jimmy Sexton are the ones who laid the foundation for it to turn into this.
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Sexton's MO and go to is creating bidding wars between schools that jumps up his client's salary and in return his portion of the proceeds. OM didn't play ball and therefore forced Kiffin's hand and I can't blame OM. We have seen it time and time again where a coach gets a crazy 4-10 year extension with some ridiculous $ amount and it bite them in the butt years down the road when the team starts to underperform and the school is left to pay out the remaining contract after firing said coach, ie Malzahn (Arkansas/Auburn).
 
CoolBreeze said:
Love this thread. Hey, what is the deal with State Penn? Any news at all about their search?
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I was perusing their message boards out of sheer curiosity. Their fans were all-in on making a run at DeBoer if we lost the Iron Bowl, but they seemed to have moved on. A lot of them wanted Chesney from JMU but it looks like UCLA has hired him. There’s a prominent poster on Black Shoe Diaries who claims to be “in the know” who says they are talking with someone that would be an absolute home run and compared it to Lincoln Riley leaving OU for USC. This was inferred to be Marcus Freeman - which I’d be shocked by. There’s also talk of them making a run at Heupel, which would be …..interesting?

Who knows. A lot of folks think they’ve swung and missed and will end up promoting the interim guy.
 
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JDCrimson said:
In the theater of absurd, it just came across my ESPN feed that LSU will pay the incentives Kiffin would have earned in the CFP based on how OM performs in the CFP. So if OM wins the national championship, the LSU will pay Kiffin $1M bonus...
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If true, that indicates how desperate lsu was to get him... 😎
 
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