Not a ton of substance here for 2024. They mostly talk about why Saban was successful in the past. Still, a good video. Do yourself a favor and ignore @MH-0101 in the comments. Dude is an absolute moron.
College Football Nerds: Bama 2024
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Not a ton of substance here for 2024. They mostly talk about why Saban was successful in the past. Still, a good video. Do yourself a favor and ignore @MH-0101 in the comments. Dude is an absolute moron.
I watched the 2022 Tejas game last night.
Tragic, inexcusable waste of talent on the part of BoB. My goodness, my cat could have done more with Bryce Young than BoB did. I feel so badly for Bryce. He gave it his all and BoB was a pathetic excuse for an offensive coordinator. It's darn near criminal how bad he was.
I cannot believe CNS did not pull the trigger on firing that guy.
CNS is the goat, but he went through coordinators like people change underwear until he found two who sucked so bad at their jobs, no one would hire them away.
Tragic, inexcusable waste of talent on the part of BoB. My goodness, my cat could have done more with Bryce Young than BoB did. I feel so badly for Bryce. He gave it his all and BoB was a pathetic excuse for an offensive coordinator. It's darn near criminal how bad he was.
I cannot believe CNS did not pull the trigger on firing that guy.
CNS is the goat, but he went through coordinators like people change underwear until he found two who sucked so bad at their jobs, no one would hire them away.
I still think Coach Saban was keeping the OC/DC because it was getting more and more difficult to fill the postions later in his years. A lot of coaches don't want to put in the hours that Saban demanded.
Very true, and at the same time successful head coaches like Kirby, Sark, and Kiffin talk about how valuable their time in Saban's pressure cooker was in their development.
I agree. It just angered me that Bama let a generational talent (and the other very talented players he had around him) go through his time in crimson without winning a national championship every year. Watching BoB's ineffectiveness just made me really angry. Bryce deserved better. All of them did.
Agreed on the waste of talent - those teams were chock-full of NFL starter level talent and didn't take advantage due to the OC and DC.
I'll say it until I'm crimson in the face. Our offense was getting it done well enough to win it all, even with Bob. When the Defense can't stop the other team, the offense can't score. The Defensive Coordinator was by far the weakest link.
Defense:
#18 defense in the nation. 18th!
#23 in 3rd down defense
#18 in yards allowed
We allowed 11, 4th down conversions out of 27. 11! That does NOT HAPPEN!
We allowed 52 points at UT
We allowed 32 points at LSU
When the chips were down, the defense just couldn't stop a good team from scoring.
Offense:
#4 in scoring
Completed 64% of passes
5.4 yards per run
1.2 turnovers per game
We scored 49 points vs. UT. There's no planet in the solar system where that should not be enough points to win, unless the defense collapses.
Defense:
#18 defense in the nation. 18th!
#23 in 3rd down defense
#18 in yards allowed
We allowed 11, 4th down conversions out of 27. 11! That does NOT HAPPEN!
We allowed 52 points at UT
We allowed 32 points at LSU
When the chips were down, the defense just couldn't stop a good team from scoring.
Offense:
#4 in scoring
Completed 64% of passes
5.4 yards per run
1.2 turnovers per game
We scored 49 points vs. UT. There's no planet in the solar system where that should not be enough points to win, unless the defense collapses.
I mean, it might have been better to fire BoB and tell Bryce, "Look, you know the play book. Just call the audible you think will work."
At the 36:00 minute point, he talks about DeBoer's system being suited to a running QB. An offense that features Jalen's exceptional running ability might be just the thing Milroe needs to absolutely explode this coming year. Not that JM can't pass, just that his running ability is world class.
Making defenses worry about his running could open up easier throws especially if you have some RPO action with a QB option to run. Rolling him out to create opportunities to run while bringing receivers across his line of sight using flood concepts could put defenses in a real bind. A great coach will figure out how to maximize the abilities of his players. I think CKD can do that.
Against Tejas (I know, early in the season and it was only one game), Milroe got pressure up the middle, he normally drift right, then take off. Then, in explicably, it seemed like Milroe's inner monologue was "No, I think I'm going to throw after all" and he would slow down. Then he would think, "No, I'm going to run." and he would speed up, then, "No, I am going to throw after all."
All the while, defensive players would be closing on him. If he had just committed to the run and taken off, he would have killed the defense. He just seemed reluctant to run and reluctant to decide.
It was frustrating to watch.
I kinda chuckled at that to be honest cause he mentioned Deboer had used running QBs in the past, then said that's what he did at Sioux Falls. Well CKD left there in 2009. I don't know his whole history of offenses he's run, but when his name popped up as the target, I dug in a bit and at least as far back 2017 with Fresno State he's mostly had offenses tailored more toward the passing game and scheme we saw at UW and didn't appear to have any QBs with big running stats. I didn't look further back to see what he used before that.
So yeah, he has used a running QB, but it's not his recent preference or history.
IMHO, if we had to go with a heavy dose of dedicated QB run to make Milroe productive, I'd hope we would try the other options first. Going that route has a big impact on the morale of the WR and TE rooms and hurts WR recruiting (based on what we saw with Hurts and with so many receivers leaving after the 23 season). Also unless you have another guy like Milroe as the backup in case he gets hurt, you're going to have to spend some time in practice essentially running a different offense that your #2 and #3 guys operate. That impacts every other offensive player b/c now they are having to rep more concepts instead of mastering what the main theme of the offensive team is built for. There are just too many downsides to changing the approach to fit one player, unless there is not another viable option, when the team is really built for something else overall.
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well, that's why I don't really think his running ability is world class. His SPEED certainly is, but there is way more to being a good runner than just speed (see Trent Richardson in the NFL)
The thing that drove me nuts during the BOB years were how many times we got called for delay or game or ran the play clock down to the last second. I don't recall seeing any other team run the clock down that close before so consistently
RBs dont like their QBs keeping the ball most of the time either...
Fair enough.
What struck me in the Tejas game was Milroe's inability to make a timely decision. It was the "I'm running-No, I'm passing-No, I'm running" approach that was frustrating to watch.
I think the speed of the game caught up to him against Texas.
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