Concerning Diego Pavia( AKA Johnny Manzel II IMHO ), Is a Dedicated Spy Worth The Potential Reward Vs. The Risk?

[CB4]

I hope we don't do that...

(He played at New Mexico St)

Hey man…Cut me some slack! I’m an old man. At least I knew it was “State” and somewhere out west…”

 

[colbysullivan]

I wish that were true.

Golding would be a massive upgrade.

I don't think Wommack is as bad. Wommack doesn't have the same talent Gol*ing had, who truly wasted some ELITE players. Wommack's scheme is dumb, but I don't think anyone is as utterly stupid as Pete Gol*ing.

 

[arthurdawg]

Having so many dinged up and missing on the DL is worrisome.

Our LBs worry me even more in a game like this though.

 

[colbysullivan]

Having so many dinged up and missing on the DL is worrisome.

Our LBs worry me even more in a game like this though.

Like I said, we have to go "2020 mode" from here on out. Let's just outscore everyone.

 

[arthurdawg]

Like I said, we have to go "2020 mode" from here on out. Let's just outscore everyone.

The good news is that we can definitely do that!

Would be nice if the D could stop them a couple of times in the first and let us pad a good lead on them and make them more one dimensional!

 

[BamaInCummingGA]

No matter how much better we are at the QB position this year than last, the offense really wasn't the problem against Vandy last year.

The defense completely blew it in that game.

Not entirely true. The two very bad interceptions and penalties on offense killed drives in which Diego would have been on the bench vs scoring.
The defense does bear their share of the blame but if we maintain scoring drives and don't leave the defense out in the wind we likely still win.

 

[colbysullivan]

The good news is that we can definitely do that!

Would be nice if the D could stop them a couple of times in the first and let us pad a good lead on them and make them more one dimensional!

Yeah, I don't want another game like the 2020 Ole Miss game. That game almost killed me.

 

[arthurdawg]

Yeah, I don't want another game like the 2020 Ole Miss game. That game almost killed me.

2020 Ole Miss and 2021 Auburn... Which one brought us closer to a heart attack...

 

[BamaInCummingGA]

they are going to get an absurd amount of hype this week with a lot of hot take idiots picking them to win. I think we will be laser focused

Not to mention the mouth running they'll likely do.

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

I think we all know the reason why our offense sucked last year. That problem has CLEARLY been fixed. But yes, I am not going to consider Vandy an easy win anymore, and hopefully, neither will the team. After what happened last year, if we don't take them seriously, then something is truly wrong. Personally, I think we keep the intensity going.

Yeah, Ty won't be tipping off the play call like a certain qb did last year...

Paving gets all the publicity, so not sure how good their defense is.

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

Yeah...that's not within him. We are going to have to be 2020 Bama from now on to beat all the remaining teams on our schedule.

Totally agree!

If we score on every drive, Vandy won't be able to stay with us.

 

[Power Eye]

I don’t want to downplay what Vandy has accomplished this year, because they have been very successful relative to what they’ve been. With that said, they have feasted on terrible competition. South Carolina is by far their best win, and without Sellers, they are probably neck and neck with Kentucky for the worst team in the conference. Point being, I think they are a little overhyped because it’s 5-0 Vandy, and it’s just so unbelievable.

We know Pavia will be a problem, but I just don’t see them scoring more than 30 and i don’t us scoring under that.

 

[Bama Lee]

Our LBs can’t fill the correct hole on a normal run. They take the wrong angles way too often. Bray Hubbard may be able to do it

 

[Tide-one-on]

Need to stop Pavia and that Luther kid if he is still back

 

[jashleyren2]

Let's not try to out-think these guys. It's Vanderbilt for a reason.

Our test scores are never going to compare.

However, keeping up our method of time management on offense and success with that offense places Vandy at risk. They loooove to be on offense. Give them minimal time. If they make us pay anyway, fine.

It's to our benefit to keep this score down and just like the UGA game last week. Do just enough on defense to make them stay honest, but they are going to score points anyway. We don't want to have to get in a shoot out with them. It's not our game. We win by keeping Pavia over on the sidelines.

 

[jashleyren2]

https://collegefootballnerds.com/ComputerModel/Alabama-vs-Vanderbilt

The FSU game is still killing us with models. Their model has Vandy as the #3 team behind OSU and Indiana. Bama is #6.

2025 Vanderbilt football is in bubble mode. That stock is as high as it can be right now. Let's crash it, Saturday.

 

[jashleyren2]

In terms of limiting Pavia and the offense, I think it’s a “pick your poison” scenario somewhat. First, we must control the game from a possession standpoint. Offensively, control time of possession, and above all, score TD’s, not settling for FG’s. Limit Vandy and Pavia’s opportunities.

This is where the role of the defensive analysts can be crucial to the team’s success. Review every scrap of tape you can find going back to Pavia’s Utah State days. Who had the most success shutting him down or limiting him? Can we integrate some of those concepts defensively? My thought is you have to make Pavia and Vandy “one dimension as possible”.

The problem I think we face is that last year Oklahoma was “one dimensional”’ coming into the game due to WR injuries and Arnold at QB gashed us for 130 yards on the ground. Granted our offense was pathetic and did our defense no favors, but still the point remains. Pavia is a more than adequate passer, but it is his legs that gets first downs and extends drives.

Common theme for years and years now: running QB's eat us alive. They do that to a lot of programs, some with better defensive personnel than we have. The neutralization of a running qb is to first not ask LB's to cover WR's. I don't know who came up with that idea anyway.

Next, keep him off the field. When you have the ball on offense, you aren't looking for quick points. More of what we did this past Saturday night. UGA wasn't great downfield (though they did drop an easy long TD, same as us). Other than those two plays, the downfield wasn't the threat.

Keep him off the field. If we neutralize his running game, he's going to have to win it with his arm. If he does, then he's just that good.

 

[92tide]

Not entirely true. The two very bad interceptions and penalties on offense killed drives in which Diego would have been on the bench vs scoring.
The defense does bear their share of the blame but if we maintain scoring drives and don't leave the defense out in the wind we likely still win.

we also had that idiotic two #2s on the field penalty for a punt return which gave them a 1st down and they promptly scored

 

[smith5753]

So, not a Vandy question/response, but with the overall sentiment of this thread being our defense is a liability once again, how do we get this fixed next year and do you think Deboer will actually pull the trigger on moving on from Womack? There are times last year the defense seemed to work but overall the scheme seems pitiful in both stopping the run and pressuring the QB. At the very least we need upgrades in linebacker and defensive line coaching. I’m also still not sold on the offensive line staff. Maybe we should give Sam pitman a call since he got the boot

 

[Isaiah 63:1]

It's either a sign of the apocalypse, or just an indication of the state of college football in the transfer portal/NIL/six year eligibility era that, the week after a win at Athens, a home game against Vanderbilt has become a measuring stick of any kind for an Alabama football season...