Consolidated O-Line discussion - where has the 24-25 team been, and what do we think the goal is for 26?

@bamaslammer great post! Only thing I would add is that meanest, nastiest guy needs to take the leadership role. I remember in 2020 with Covid, Dickerson converted the garage at his house into a gym and rallied the guys to workout with him. Those guys were “thick as thieves”. It wasn’t about the individual. It was about “them”.
 
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I should definitely switch to using “agile “, because I have no doubt that if Proctor moved like he was 300 pounds we would take ten of him.

These guys are just a tad slow and need better technique. So it’s time for discussions about the line coach and S&C.

Evaluation probably needs a look as well.
Years ago there was a famous coach who wanted his players to be "mobile, agile, and hostile".
 
Just look at the Indiana line if you want to see an example of what we need. Those guys didn't seem overly large. We couldn't do anything effectively against them and they worked flawlessly together. They also mastered the art of holding but not by enough to draw a flag. Let me flatly state that if we had Indiana's line we would be the ones talked about as the favorite to win the NC.
We would need the Indiana OL coach to come with them.
 
OL is the only position I know from experience having played it. Alabama's problem is mostly coaching. Yes they have to be big, strong, and have good feet. But It's extremely technical, almost like having to know kung fu or something to be able to manipulate or move your guy. You don't necessarily have to blow him off the ball every play but if you looked last night they (Indiana) just walled off our DL, On running downs they looked like a choreographed swimming team. It was almost flawless. If we got anything going it was on a few pass rushes which are a little more unpredictable. You get that from guys who have played together every week and have been taught the right technique. it doesn't happen overnight, it can't be made to happen over night. Then sometimes you have to bow up and knock someone off the ball and once again Indiana could do that when they had to . That just requires a little meanness. Big guys are often often overgrown teddy bears. Who ever picked on them growing up? Nobody, Teddy Bears. Every so often you run across some dude who got skull dragged around his neighborhood by the psychopath teenager down the street who would end up in prison later. He just licks his wounds and takes it but later on hits a growth spurt and goes out for football and spends his career making everyone pay for the pain he suffered as a child.

Alabama rotated guys more than I've EVER seen at any level. Yes 2 guys can somewhat share a position early but by game 4 or so you got to pick the best 5 and go with it. Otherwise they are never going to be tight enough.

Alabama absolutely has no physicality, they ain't mean, they don't get excited. teddy bears.

I can't determine any specific technique being employed unless they are trying to zone block which at the college level must means brain injury for your backfield.

How to fix it? First fire the OL coach, I'm sure he's a nice guy, sorry, life sux.

Second find someone who has a great running game from a winning program and throw whatever money is necessary to the OL coach to hire him. I for one believe the entire team revolves around the OL. If that ain't right joe montana under center won't help. I would have no problem paying my OL coach second only to the head coach. it's that important.

Third in the portal find the meanest nastiest most awful OL you can find, someone who is so mean he will effect everyone around him. Someone who will literally eat teddy bears, these guys don't need another buddy they need a leader they fear. Once again if that requires money, find the money. but someone has to be the catalyst.

Do all that and by about game 5 next season we should start to see SOME improvement. But this is really going to take another full season or season and a half to fix IF WE STARTED TODAY.

Or we can do nothing and get skull dragged around by all the good teams like we did under Shula. Their choice.
Lordy, could not agree more! I believe it was OJ Simpson who said, “ Without a good offensive line, all running backs are the same. Lousy. “ Whatever OJ was, he was right about that.
 
Recency bias made me forget how bad the 2021 offensive line was, but this one was in that discussion. This group was better at pass protection, but couldn't open holes for the backs. The 2021 group could at least get Brian Robinson downhill, but had Bryce Young running for his life all the time.

So what is the fix? Here was Coach Gemini's suggestions 🤷🏻‍♂️


Losing Kadyn Proctor (First Round Talent) and Parker Brailsford (The "Brain" of the line) in the same offseason is a "Code Red" scenario. You lose your best pass protector and your protection caller simultaneously.
If this happens, you cannot simply plug in backups and run the same "finesse/zone" scheme. You lack the experience to execute that complexity. Instead, you must pivot to a "Bigger, Meaner, Simpler" identity.
Here is the 3-Step "Fix" for the 2026 Offensive Line to regain the physical edge.

1. The "Youth to Power" Pivot (Internal Promotions)

The 2025 line was "technically sound" but lacked pure displacement power. The backups waiting in the wings for 2026 are actually bigger and more physical than the starters they are replacing.
  • The New Anchor: Casey Poe (Center/Guard)
    • The Move: You hand the keys to Casey Poe (top interior recruit from the 2024 class).
    • Why: Brailsford was an elite technician (290 lbs). Poe is a mauler (315+ lbs). You lose some "check-with-me" processing speed at the line, but you gain a Center who can single-block a Nose Tackle. This immediately fixes your "3rd & 1" issue.
  • The Road Grader: Miles McVay (Right Tackle)
    • The Move: Insert McVay into the starting lineup.
    • Why: He is a massive human being (6'6", 350+ lbs). He is not the fluid dancer Proctor was, but he is a people-mover. In the run game, you run behind him.

2. The "Rent-a-Shield" Strategy (Transfer Portal)

You cannot trust a young player to protect the blind side in the SEC immediately. If Proctor leaves, you must use the Portal.
  • The Target: You don't need a "project"; you need a 1-year mercenary Left Tackle.
  • The Profile: Look for a graduating senior from a "lesser" Power 4 school (like a standout from the ACC or Big 12) who has 30+ career starts.
  • The Goal: You need a "Tyler Steen" type (the transfer LT from Vanderbilt who started for Bama in 2022). He doesn't need to be an All-American; he just needs to not get the QB killed while the massive interior line (Poe/McVay) destroys people in the run game.

3. Schematic Adjustment: "Vertical Displacement"

With Brailsford and Proctor, you ran a lot of "Outside Zone" and lateral schemes because they moved well. With Poe and McVay (315 lbs and 350 lbs), lateral movement is not their game.
  • The Fix: Switch the base run concepts to "Duo" and "Counter" (Gap Schemes).
  • Why: These plays don't require your linemen to run sideways. They require them to block down on the guy next to them and double-team him into the linebacker's lap.
  • The Result: This simplifies the game for the new starters. They don't have to diagnose complex stunts; they just have to crush the guy in their gap.
The Verdict: The 2026 line will be worse at pass protection (Proctor is irreplaceable) but significantly better at run blocking. You will transform from a "finesse" spread team back into a "bully" team, which actually fits the "imbed a potent rush attack" goal you had earlier.
 
Recency bias made me forget how bad the 2021 offensive line was, but this one was in that discussion. This group was better at pass protection, but couldn't open holes for the backs. The 2021 group could at least get Brian Robinson downhill, but had Bryce Young running for his life all the time.

So what is the fix? Here was Coach Gemini's suggestions 🤷🏻‍♂️


Losing Kadyn Proctor (First Round Talent) and Parker Brailsford (The "Brain" of the line) in the same offseason is a "Code Red" scenario. You lose your best pass protector and your protection caller simultaneously.
If this happens, you cannot simply plug in backups and run the same "finesse/zone" scheme. You lack the experience to execute that complexity. Instead, you must pivot to a "Bigger, Meaner, Simpler" identity.
Here is the 3-Step "Fix" for the 2026 Offensive Line to regain the physical edge.


1. The "Youth to Power" Pivot (Internal Promotions)

The 2025 line was "technically sound" but lacked pure displacement power. The backups waiting in the wings for 2026 are actually bigger and more physical than the starters they are replacing.

  • The New Anchor: Casey Poe (Center/Guard)
    • The Move: You hand the keys to Casey Poe (top interior recruit from the 2024 class).
    • Why: Brailsford was an elite technician (290 lbs). Poe is a mauler (315+ lbs). You lose some "check-with-me" processing speed at the line, but you gain a Center who can single-block a Nose Tackle. This immediately fixes your "3rd & 1" issue.
    • The Move: Insert McVay into the starting lineup.
    • Why: He is a massive human being (6'6", 350+ lbs). He is not the fluid dancer Proctor was, but he is a people-mover. In the run game, you run behind him.

2. The "Rent-a-Shield" Strategy (Transfer Portal)

You cannot trust a young player to protect the blind side in the SEC immediately. If Proctor leaves, you must use the Portal.

  • The Target: You don't need a "project"; you need a 1-year mercenary Left Tackle.
  • The Profile: Look for a graduating senior from a "lesser" Power 4 school (like a standout from the ACC or Big 12) who has 30+ career starts.
  • The Goal: You need a "Tyler Steen" type (the transfer LT from Vanderbilt who started for Bama in 2022). He doesn't need to be an All-American; he just needs to not get the QB killed while the massive interior line (Poe/McVay) destroys people in the run game.

3. Schematic Adjustment: "Vertical Displacement"

With Brailsford and Proctor, you ran a lot of "Outside Zone" and lateral schemes because they moved well. With Poe and McVay (315 lbs and 350 lbs), lateral movement is not their game.

  • The Fix: Switch the base run concepts to "Duo" and "Counter" (Gap Schemes).
  • Why: These plays don't require your linemen to run sideways. They require them to block down on the guy next to them and double-team him into the linebacker's lap.
  • The Result: This simplifies the game for the new starters. They don't have to diagnose complex stunts; they just have to crush the guy in their gap.
The Verdict: The 2026 line will be worse at pass protection (Proctor is irreplaceable) but significantly better at run blocking. You will transform from a "finesse" spread team back into a "bully" team, which actually fits the "imbed a potent rush attack" goal you had earlier.
Gonna have to get McVay out of the transfer portal.
 
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Recency bias made me forget how bad the 2021 offensive line was, but this one was in that discussion. This group was better at pass protection, but couldn't open holes for the backs. The 2021 group could at least get Brian Robinson downhill, but had Bryce Young running for his life all the time.

So what is the fix? Here was Coach Gemini's suggestions 🤷🏻‍♂️


Losing Kadyn Proctor (First Round Talent) and Parker Brailsford (The "Brain" of the line) in the same offseason is a "Code Red" scenario. You lose your best pass protector and your protection caller simultaneously.
If this happens, you cannot simply plug in backups and run the same "finesse/zone" scheme. You lack the experience to execute that complexity. Instead, you must pivot to a "Bigger, Meaner, Simpler" identity.
Here is the 3-Step "Fix" for the 2026 Offensive Line to regain the physical edge.


1. The "Youth to Power" Pivot (Internal Promotions)

The 2025 line was "technically sound" but lacked pure displacement power. The backups waiting in the wings for 2026 are actually bigger and more physical than the starters they are replacing.

  • The New Anchor: Casey Poe (Center/Guard)
    • The Move: You hand the keys to Casey Poe (top interior recruit from the 2024 class).
    • Why: Brailsford was an elite technician (290 lbs). Poe is a mauler (315+ lbs). You lose some "check-with-me" processing speed at the line, but you gain a Center who can single-block a Nose Tackle. This immediately fixes your "3rd & 1" issue.
    • The Move: Insert McVay into the starting lineup.
    • Why: He is a massive human being (6'6", 350+ lbs). He is not the fluid dancer Proctor was, but he is a people-mover. In the run game, you run behind him.

2. The "Rent-a-Shield" Strategy (Transfer Portal)

You cannot trust a young player to protect the blind side in the SEC immediately. If Proctor leaves, you must use the Portal.

  • The Target: You don't need a "project"; you need a 1-year mercenary Left Tackle.
  • The Profile: Look for a graduating senior from a "lesser" Power 4 school (like a standout from the ACC or Big 12) who has 30+ career starts.
  • The Goal: You need a "Tyler Steen" type (the transfer LT from Vanderbilt who started for Bama in 2022). He doesn't need to be an All-American; he just needs to not get the QB killed while the massive interior line (Poe/McVay) destroys people in the run game.

3. Schematic Adjustment: "Vertical Displacement"

With Brailsford and Proctor, you ran a lot of "Outside Zone" and lateral schemes because they moved well. With Poe and McVay (315 lbs and 350 lbs), lateral movement is not their game.

  • The Fix: Switch the base run concepts to "Duo" and "Counter" (Gap Schemes).
  • Why: These plays don't require your linemen to run sideways. They require them to block down on the guy next to them and double-team him into the linebacker's lap.
  • The Result: This simplifies the game for the new starters. They don't have to diagnose complex stunts; they just have to crush the guy in their gap.
The Verdict: The 2026 line will be worse at pass protection (Proctor is irreplaceable) but significantly better at run blocking. You will transform from a "finesse" spread team back into a "bully" team, which actually fits the "imbed a potent rush attack" goal you had earlier.

That's some awful AI crap right there. What tool spewed that out?
 
I don't really care how big or small the guys are on the OL......our OL coaching and whatever technique he coaches is absolute trash.

We can't run.....at all.

DeBoer doesn't really ever run anyway, not physically. His system is passing and relying so heavily on the QB that when the QB has an off game we lose by multiple scores.

When DeBoer changes his offensive philosophy and gets a new OL coach that teaches some sort of actual blocking....a RB coach that can teach the RB's to actually follow blocks and hit the holes......then we'll have something.

Until then, we are going no where. This philosophy and culture won't win championships here. We'll get owned vs physical teams every single time.

DeBoer vs Michigan twice
DeBoer vs UGA in the SECCG
DeBoer vs Indiana
DeBoer vs FSU

We rely too heavily on the QB and we don't protect him with a competent offensive philosophy. Our OL coach isn't good. Our OC isn't good. I'd say our RB coach isn't good too.

What is our philosophy on offense besides being "finesse" garbage?
 
A lot of us had some reservations about Kapilovic when he was hired, that seems to been warranted. He had a couple of good years at North Carolina, but he has seemed pretty bad everywhere else. Michigan St fans were talking a lot of crap when he was hired, and they seem to be right about him.

He’s been a great recruiter, but I’m hoping we move on from him. 3482014C-8800-4F9A-A418-92FBC7CC49FA.jpeg
 
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Maybe not "smaller" but "quicker" or, just better athletes???

I think that point may have been made, but we aren't really talking about 5 Parker type guys who barely get to 280 soaking weight.

Think more 6'4"-5" guys in the 310-20 range over 6'2" 345 guys...

With more agility and speed over power... But we also need the RBs who have the speed to get to the holes and get through them. Our RBs this year were talented at blindly running into an OL who was being pawned by the DL they were trying to block when there was a big hole two steps over.
 

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