Convention wackiness thread - GOP Edition

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Well, in Florida, he asked for it, or what appeared way too close. I'm probably super-sensitive, since I grew up looking at it on newsreels. Also, some of his policies and tactics make me very uncomfortable because of the apparent affinity...
 

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Well, in Florida, he asked for it, or what appeared way too close. I'm probably super-sensitive, since I grew up looking at it on newsreels. Also, some of his policies and tactics make me very uncomfortable because of the apparent affinity...
OK, I have no idea what you're referencing here, but I'm going to assume it wasn't the gay hooker post that immediately preceded yours. Picturing you as a boy looking at it on newsreels is more than I care to think about.
 
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OK, I have no idea what you're referencing here, but I'm going to assume it wasn't the gay hooker post that immediately preceded yours. Picturing you as a boy looking at it on newsreels is more than I care to think about.
Pulling for the US in WWII while it was losing prepared me for Bama football under Whitworth (later Dubose)...
 

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Many said Reagan was through when he refused to endorse Gerald Ford.
Because he was going to be 69 years old and campaigning for President. Believe it or not, that was practically unheard of forty years ago. The oldest President elected had been WH Harrison, who died a month later from pneumonia. The oldest at the end of his term had been Eisenhower.....who after eight years was 70 years old, which Reagan turned about two weeks into his Presidency.

So OF COURSE people thought Reagan was through. He was too old!!!

The man who manipulated the Mississippi delegation that gave the nomination to Ford over Reagan and orchestrated that convention show was none other than Paul Manafort, the ultimate Washington insider.
I want some sources on that. Paul Manafort was 27 years old at the time, and he wasn't from the South. The big dogs in Mississippi were Clarke Reed, Charles Pickering, Billy Mounger, and GOP Southern builder Harry Dent, who had begun constructing the GOP Southern apparatus in 1957 (putting the lie to the simplistic "the racists all jumped the party" narrative once the Democrats started losing elections). I've got Witcover's book about that election, and despite having a good 30 pages or so about more details than anyone ever cares to remember about the 1976 Mississippi delegation, guess whose name is nowhere in the book?

I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying I need sources.

But Trump is different. We will see. Even though I probably agree Cruz is through, it is a sad commentary on the country and it probably means the GOP is done too. It's Trump's Party now.
It's no more Trump's party than it was Ford's in 1976 (er, AFTER). Trump is the vehicle of discontent the GOP is willing to drive to not have Hillary. Trump (well, Clinton, too, but I suspect Democrats at least are aware of it) is little more than a political date rapist. The man will promise you anything but once he's knocked you up after promising to marry you, he'll insist he ain't the father.

But back to this insane Cruz-Reagan comparison people want to make.

WWWHHHHHYYYYYY??????????

"Well, Reagan didn't endorse Ford, either."

Ford also nearly won, not because of Reagan's non-endorsement or whatever but because he was the incumbent. And btw - they thought enough of each other that Reagan damn near picked Ford as his running mate in 1980. So let's draw out the comparison......show of hands........anybody here think Cruz is picking Trump as his running mate if he wins the 2020 nomination? (Looks all over the world, only sees Trump's hand raised).

Plus, Reagan was - even at an early stage - a guy who appealed to folks in the OTHER party. Like it or not, Barack Obama has that. Bill Clinton has that. Ted Cruz does not.

Please.....everyone so inclined stop this "Cruz is the new Reagan" mantra because I can't imagine that even those of you saying it actually believe it.
 

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OK, I have no idea what you're referencing here, but I'm going to assume it wasn't the gay hooker post that immediately preceded yours. Picturing you as a boy looking at it on newsreels is more than I care to think about.
No, he's talking about the Hitler salute.

I lived in Deutschland for two years. That's a BIG no-no, and I lived there when there was still a wall.

I'm obviously not as sensitive to it as Earle, but it's a bit of a sore spot with me, too. (I don't care for Hillary - you'll never see a Hitler comparison from me, though).
 

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Plus, Reagan was - even at an early stage - a guy who appealed to folks in the OTHER party. Like it or not, Barack Obama has that. Bill Clinton has that. Ted Cruz does not.
Pardon another diversion...................

Cruz is never going to have national appeal. When fervent Christians, like Mrs. Cuda, can't stand him, what does that tell you about his national appeal?

"Why doesn't she like him?"

He wears his religion on his sleeves.

Plus, I think she reminds her of the "ex-husband". Who was a preacher. (And some other things that I will not mention. Let's just say they were very "un-preacherly".)

OK, back to regular programming..............
 

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Pardon another diversion...................

Cruz is never going to have national appeal. When fervent Christians, like Mrs. Cuda, can't stand him, what does that tell you about his national appeal?

"Why doesn't she like him?"

He wears his religion on his sleeves.

Plus, I think she reminds her of the "ex-husband". Who was a preacher. (And some other things that I will not mention. Let's just say they were very "un-preacherly".)

OK, back to regular programming..............
Well, my 'Christian' wife left me (contradicting what she said she believes but who really cares) and invoked God herself, but I always tell folks I got divorced because of religion: she thought she was God, and I didn't.

Cruz comes across as too overtly theocratic, yes. I'm a Christian, but even I'm aware of the dangers of that becoming our ruling system.
 

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