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Could this be a way to fix ALL the current problems with the CFP?

selmaborntidefan said:
I've got a better idea:

I'll find something else to watch.

There is no market whatsoever for MINOR LEAGUE BASEBALL ON TELEVISION in this country, there shouldn't be. It's substandard and often with as many errors as hits.

There shouldn't be one for what is now unequivocally minor league football with a league as successful as the NFL.



I've watched less college ball the last three years than any one year combined previously (even back when there was only 2 games per week on TV). Not because Saban left, not because Alabama doesn't dominate (we played a bunch of boring games), but because it doesn't matter if the team ranked ahead of us wins or loses anyway, it all depends on their conference and auto bid.

And we've gotten rematches both years of this thing, and it will get worse.
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I watched 15 minutes of Miami vs. Texas A&M while eating at a restaurant Saturday afternoon.

I didn't even watch our game... I followed it here and using gamecast on espn.com.

I appreciate the suggestions to improve this product, as I have my own, but this is the real issue. I'm afraid irreparable harm has already been done.
 
I hate auto-bids of any kind. Any format that would have let in a 7-5 Duke is a format that needs to be trashed.

A decade from now, I can't wait to hear everyone whining about how the same teams win the CFP over and over. Expanding basically allows the blue bloods in every single year, even if they have a down year where they lose 2 or 3 times. And the more times you let them in, the more time they will power their way to a championship.

Look at how the Bama haters continue to whine. They hated the Saban run and how many championship games Bama made. So they expanded to 4, somehow thinking it would help other teams win, but Bama still kept getting to the NCG. So they expanded again, and now they are upset that a 3-loss Bama is still winning playoff games. So, go ahead and keep expanding. I don't mind Bama having a real chance at the title every single year.

Just look at FCS and how many different champions they have had in the last decade +.
 
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CrimsonNagus said:
I hate auto-bids of any kind. Any format that would have let in a 7-5 Duke is a format that needs to be trashed.

A decade from now, I can't wait to hear everyone whining about how the same teams win the CFP over and over. Expanding basically allows the blue bloods in every single year, even if they have a down year where they lose 2 or 3 times. And the more times you let them in, the more time they will power their way to a championship.

Look at how the Bama haters continue to whine. They hated the Saban run and how many championship games Bama made. So they expanded to 4, somehow thinking it would help other teams win, but Bama still kept getting to the NCG. So they expanded again, and now they are upset that a 3-loss Bama is still winning playoff games. So, go ahead and keep expanding. I don't mind Bama having a real chance at the title every single year.

Just look at FCS and how many different champions they have had in the last decade +.
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The auto-bid problem (letting in a 7-5 Duke) would be corrected if we just eliminated conference championship games.

Not having divisions really makes the game useless for competitive purposes. It's purely a money grab now.
 
So many people think we can create a "March Madness" for football, but the sports are way too different. It's just never gonna happen, you will never have the Cinderella stories that capture the heart of the nation in football. Oh, I'm sure occasionally a small-time team will win a first-round game, that's about it. They will hit a wall that they just can't pass, no matter how great they play. So many people just refuse to admit this, they think the little guy has a shot if you just let them in. These kinds of people are stupid.

They don't have a shot, most of us know they don't have a shot. So, why include them, what's the point? To make people happy? That's worked wonders, right. To avoid litigation? What an amazing reason, so exciting.

College football folks, where money and litigation define the future.
 
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So many people think we can create a "March Madness" for football, but the sports are way too different. It's just never gonna happen, you will never have the Cinderella stories that capture the heart of the nation in football. Oh, I'm sure occasionally a small-time team will win a first-round game, that's about it. They will hit a wall that they just can't pass, no matter how great they play. So many people just refuse to admit this, they think the little guy has a shot if you just let them in. These kinds of people are stupid.

They don't have a shot, most of us know they don't have a shot. So, why include them, what's the point? To make people happy? That's worked wonders, right. To avoid litigation? What an amazing reason, so exciting.

College football folks, where money and litigation define the future.
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Agree, except that even in basketball, the clock always strikes midnight on the Cinderellas before the championship. Since the NCAA Tournament expanded to 64 teams in 1985, the lowest seed to win has been #8 (twice - Villanova in 1985; Butler in 2011). A #7 has one (2014 UConn), and a #6 has one (1988 Kansas). That's it for winners outside the #4 seeds (top 25% of the bracket).

March Madness is chaotic — until it isn’t. The structure allows for early disruption, but there is a hard competitive floor, and if it has moved in 40 years since expanding to 64 teams, it has moved up, not down. Football is so much more resource intensive that it just strains credulity to think football can be run like basketball...
 
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Isaiah 63:1 said:
Agree, except that even in basketball, the clock always strikes midnight on the Cinderellas before the championship. Since the NCAA Tournament expanded to 64 teams in 1985, the lowest seed to win has been #8 (twice - Villanova in 1985; Butler in 2011). A #7 has one (2014 UConn), and a #6 has one (1988 Kansas). That's it for winners outside the #4 seeds (top 25% of the bracket).

March Madness is chaotic — until it isn’t. The structure allows for early disruption, but there is a hard competitive floor, and if it has moved in 40 years since expanding to 64 teams, it has moved up, not down. Football is so much more resource intensive that it just strains credulity to think football can be run like basketball...
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Not to be that guy, but Butler did not win.
 
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Well thought out but thats potentially 5 more games...physically and logistically a major challenge
 
Better idea: Keep it simple and invite all the teams ranked in the top 16 before any conference championship games. No JMU or Tulane under this framework and Notre Dame and Texas would have been included. End of story.
 
TideEngineer08 said:
And on top of that, all of those higher seeds that did win are what you would term blue bloods when it comes to college basketball. Which just furthers the point Isaiah was making, I know.
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Isaiah made a great point, and I’ve pointed this out elsewhere: yes, Villanova was a number eight seed, but they played in a powerhouse conference and it would be like 2011 Arkansas winning the football national championship after LSU and Alabama played in the semifinal and one was eliminated to make their path easier.

Remember this as well: that was the first year of a 64-team tournament so seeding was a little bit more specious than it is nowadays. Villanova would not be a number eight seed in that same tournament nowadays.
 
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