Weird News: Daughter took ACT test today and bloody murder screams were coming from room next door

[BamaNation]

My daughter took the ACT test today at a local HS here.

In the middle of the science section, blood curling screams of "NOOOOOO NOOOOOO NOOOOOO" and "YOU CAN'T DO THIS TO MEEEEEEEE" and "ITS NOT FAAAAIIIIRRRRRRRR" and "MY PARENTS PAID THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR TUTORING!" rang out from the room next door for over 5 minutes.

Apparently, some stupid girl was caught cheating, and the proctor told her she had to leave, and she responded in the above manner.

The selfishness of such an act and then her reactions to getting caught are unimaginable in my world. Fortunately, my daughter - while having to hear the screaming - was able to tune it out and focus and finished with time to spare on that section.

 

[lowend]

The selfishness of such an act and then her reactions to getting caught are unimaginable in my world.

Unfortunately, you are increasingly in the minority. I've been teaching for almost 20 years and if you try to discipline a student now they're on the phone immediately and the parent is blowing up your email or your administrator's just as quickly. We've gone from helicopter parents to lawnmower parents and the sense of entitlement they are instilling in this generation is overwhelming.

 

[jds22]

I agree. Seeing the same thing with new employees in the work force. No one has ever told them No. They expect to be paid the highest salary and be given top of the line equipment without earning any of it. I blame the everyone gets a trophy and no one fails parents. The new generation does not know how to deal with failure because they are taught that their failure is someone else’s. Hope your daughter did well regardless of the distraction. Good thing is Bama accepts the super score on the ACT.

 

[Padreruf]

WFU administrator calls them "bull dozer" parents...he has to reserve every Friday afternoon to return calls from parents wanting him to change a grade their child received.

As if college isn't 10x easier than 50 years ago...

 

[Tideflyer]

I agree. Seeing the same thing with new employees in the work force. No one has ever told them No. They expect to be paid the highest salary and be given top of the line equipment without earning any of it. I blame the everyone gets a trophy and no one fails parents. The new generation does not know how to deal with failure because they are taught that their failure is someone else’s. Hope your daughter did well regardless of the distraction. Good thing is Bama accepts the super score on the ACT.

Nobody fails. Nobody gets cut from the team. It`s somebody else`s fault. Nobody loses and takes responsibility. Didn`t use to be this way and previous generations were taught to handle these things. One thing hasn`t changed though. Life. Loss and failure sooner or later come into EVERYONE`s life.

 

[CrimsonTheory]

Apparently, some stupid girl was caught cheating, and the proctor told her she had to leave, and she responded in the above manner.

Sounds like a girl who is going to be sleeping her way to the top.

 

[BamaNation]

WFU administrator calls them "bull dozer" parents...he has to reserve every Friday afternoon to return calls from parents wanting him to change a grade their child received.

As if college isn't 10x easier than 50 years ago...

as you may remember, I am a college professor. I tell my students that even if they sign the parental notification waiver, I will not be talking to their parents for any reason. I remind them this isn’t elementary school.

my daughter is a great student, works hard, takes hard AP classes because they are hard, etc. We have had the discussion about hard work even if you are the best at something many times. when she was 11 her soccer team was quite bad but still got trophies at the season end. She refused hers and told the coach to keep it because they hadnt earned them.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

Lucky for the cheating girl ACT and SAT scores are on their way out as college entrance standards.

 

[BamaNation]

Lucky for the cheating girl ACT and SAT scores are on their way out as college entrance standards.

Not so fast my friend. Some schools are doing that as a way to "differentiate" themselves to the top students or to attract more students when their enrollment goes down - and especially so during 2020-21 Covid, but those schools are finding out very quickly that they need some standard way to evaluate candidates.

The vast majority of schools will still use them. Saying they don't need SAT/ACT scores is a bit of bait and switch in most cases. You don't have to send them scores - especially if you're truly outstanding in every way (valedictorian, class president, created a non-profit to save orphaned kids in Ukraine and Somalia, spent weekends building 10 houses per year in HS with H4H, 5's on 15 AP courses, etc).

But if you're everybody else, you're probably gonna need that standardized score at competitive schools. Here's a list for schools that are test-optional/test-blind (either permanently or for 2022) ... notice that only about 20 are test-blind (meaning they WON'T ACCEPT scores no matter what even if you try and submit them): https://www.sparkadmissions.com/blo...versities-will-be-test-optional-in-2021-2022/

 

[4Q Basket Case]

My daughter took the ACT test today at a local HS here.

In the middle of the science section, blood curling screams of "NOOOOOO NOOOOOO NOOOOOO" and "YOU CAN'T DO THIS TO MEEEEEEEE" and "ITS NOT FAAAAIIIIRRRRRRRR" and "MY PARENTS PAID THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR TUTORING!" rang out from the room next door for over 5 minutes.

Apparently, some stupid girl was caught cheating, and the proctor told her she had to leave, and she responded in the above manner.

The selfishness of such an act and then her reactions to getting caught are unimaginable in my world. Fortunately, my daughter - while having to hear the screaming - was able to tune it out and focus and finished with time to spare on that section.

Several thoughts here --

Back in the dark ages of #2 pencils and coloring in ovals, I knew of several not-so-bright examinees whose answers were amazingly close to those of a smarter neighbor. But I never heard of anyone getting busted. Never even heard others talking about such a thing, regardless of when or where they took the tests. Point being, the cheater must have been brazen about it.

Do you know if the other test-takers got a few minutes added to their time to compensate them for the time the cheater was disrupting the process? It would be about impossible for anyone to concentrate through that, especially if it were a technical section like math or science.

And given the litigious climate today, do you know if the examinees are on camera while the test is going on? If I were the ACT / SAT management, I'd make sure that was a requirement for any testing location.

In this case, video could give evidence as to both why the proctors acted as they did, and the specific nature, volume, and duration of the cheater's reaction.

 

[Tug Tide]

 

[Tideflyer]

Several thoughts here --

Back in the dark ages of #2 pencils and coloring in ovals, I knew of several not-so-bright examinees whose answers were amazingly close to those of a smarter neighbor. But I never heard of anyone getting busted. Never even heard others talking about such a thing, regardless of when or where they took the tests. Point being, the cheater must have been brazen about it.

Do you know if the other test-takers got a few minutes added to their time to compensate them for the time the cheater was disrupting the process? It would be about impossible for anyone to concentrate through that, especially if it were a technical section like math or science.

And given the litigious climate today, do you know if the examinees are on camera while the test is going on? If I were the ACT / SAT management, I'd make sure that was a requirement for any testing location.

In this case, video could give evidence as to both why the proctors acted as they did, and the specific nature, volume, and duration of the cheater's reaction.

The #2 pencil. Without question one of the single most important implements in determining the future of the entire baby boomer generation!