to CNS for the bad call on the supposedly fumbled ball against Penn. st? Not that it would do any good. Don't mean this to be a teaser post just a lack of any other short way to put it. Thanks.
Did the officials ever apologize for the call?
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I don't think it was a bad call. I think the way it tuned out was the proper result of the play.
I do think it was called badly though.
I do think it was called badly though.
It did appear that Dre had possession when his back was on the ground, but I guess what is done is done. Here's to holding on to all future fumble recoveries so we don't have to worry about it.
Watch the play over again when you get a chance and keep an eye on Stinson at the snap. He was in the neutral zone at the snap so quite frankly the play should have never counted and actually should have been a 5 yard offsides penalty on us. So we got lucky there.
You confused me just then. The refs did not flag us for being offsides. Had they done so, then yes a free play would have occurred and I'm just guessing here but PSU probably would not have accepted the result of the play. I'm pretty sure they would have just accepted the penalty against us for having been offsides and moved the ball ahead 5 yards rather than moving backwards and starting a new series from Cottondale.
The idea is that, had it been called properly, they would have advanced 5 yards. They would have accepted the penalty against us (rather than declining) due to the cluster you know what that occurred throughout the play. The fumble fumble wouldn't have mattered. We got lucky that they missed that call.
I think the entire thing was screwed up, but we would have been in worse shape had they called the entire play the correct way.
I'm betting the only person that Saban was interested in having apologize was Dre Kirkpatrick for not falling on that ball and covering it up, instead of trying to pick it up and score.
My brother and I saw that to. In totality, it might have been the worst job I've seen of marking the ball. There wasn't the absolutely absurd one I've seen plenty of times, they just consistantly moved Alabama back and Penn St. forward. Seemed to me it was the difference in at least a couple first downs.
I noticed on one play. It appeared that we got a 1st down only to have it marked 4 feet short. Then we had to punt.
I have not taken the time to find out the names of the officials for the game. But I am curious if any of them have relatives or friends that play for PSU. If I recall correctly the official that cost us the game against PSU in the 80's was related to one of the backs from the Goal Line Stand game.
Even the worst SEC crew was better than that blue haired group.
Even the worst SEC crew was better than that blue haired group.
having "possession" of a ball is subjective. Dre's possession was tenuous at best. I know in the NFL it wouldn't have come close to counting. As it turns out it was still a devastating play to Penn State. I knew Lester was going to get stripped when the guy came from behind, but Dre should have just jumped on it. Surely he knows Richardson's money in the bank from the three.
I'm sure Saban has explained it to him this week.
I'm sure Saban has explained it to him this week.
It looked to me like he had the ball, flipped over, hit the ground with his back (which should make him down at that point with a dead ball), and then the ball was jarred loose. In any event, I think the referee just got mixed up on whose ball it was and refused to correct his error.
Is it possible that Dre was running too fast to fall straight down on the ball? I thought he might have pushed it forward to give him an angle to fall on it??
When complaints are made about SEC officials, the response is SEC officials are the best in the nation. I think we saw that Saturday night. Then again those calls might have been some home cooking. I agree with someone who said earlier in the week that said in an OOC game the officials should be from a different conference (example, Big East officials for the Duke game).
To answer the OP - no they didn't, and there is no reason for them to.
My oldest son and I notcied that at the game. We watched it at home later and saw at least 2 other bad spots. At least it didn't hurt us on the outcome. Roll Tide!
What can I say except Penn State believed it was Alabama's ball. The Penn State Defense was sent out on the field...
Marking the ball was a consistent problem. The only good thing about it was that they were lousy at it for both teams. I can think of at least twice that Penn State ended up with 3rd and short where they probably should have been given a first down. Seemed like most of ours were closer and/or on third down, but the spots, even in the middle of the field on a first down, three and a half yard run were bad, and bad both ways.
That said, I will give credit where credit is due; in several respects these guys were significantly better than most of the SEC crews, especially Penn Wagers and the Traveling Doofuses. One example I would use would be game management. The game (around tv timeouts, of course) flowed nicely. There wasn't a zebra huddle at the hash marks between every play, they were mostly in good position to call plays, and once the spot was made, even if it was short, they marked it and got out of the way. Every bit of incidental receiver / db contact didn't result in a penalty call. The holding that got called on us clearly was. Otherwise, both teams got away with some holding, especially on the left side of the Penn State O-line, but they generally let the players play.
The fumble call was terrible, inexplicable, in fact the whole play was a disaster from start to finish, except for Penn State losing about 85 yards on the down. You could tell on television that even some of the officiating crew didn't like what was happening.
I'd take these guys again, actually, just not against a Big 10-11 team.
That said, I will give credit where credit is due; in several respects these guys were significantly better than most of the SEC crews, especially Penn Wagers and the Traveling Doofuses. One example I would use would be game management. The game (around tv timeouts, of course) flowed nicely. There wasn't a zebra huddle at the hash marks between every play, they were mostly in good position to call plays, and once the spot was made, even if it was short, they marked it and got out of the way. Every bit of incidental receiver / db contact didn't result in a penalty call. The holding that got called on us clearly was. Otherwise, both teams got away with some holding, especially on the left side of the Penn State O-line, but they generally let the players play.
The fumble call was terrible, inexplicable, in fact the whole play was a disaster from start to finish, except for Penn State losing about 85 yards on the down. You could tell on television that even some of the officiating crew didn't like what was happening.
I'd take these guys again, actually, just not against a Big 10-11 team.
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